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MLB offseason chatter thread

Doublebase said:
Really? Who cares?
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Well I guess you don't understand what this thread is about (http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/s...n-chatter-thread-post1943881.html#post1943881)
It's about baseball thingy's, you know trade rumors, who sign with what team. Basically much like gossip but just sports.

I really don't expect you to understand this being that your mind is still trying to figure how you got stuck paying the health benefits of your wife's boyfriend. Psst...make sure he's not on your life insurance.
 
soxmuscle said:
I'm truly curious where that article states the Yankees got hosed in this deal?

Please, let me know.
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I doesn't and I didn't say it.
I didn't want to see Melky leave and I really would prefer Sheets or any other pitcher other than Vazquez.
 
I took your opposing the deal as exactly that, when now that we're discussing it, it seems that you don't necessarily oppose the trade, just the players that were swapped.

You aren't fond of Vazquez, but I really don't see why.

It's like Cubs fans with Milton Bradley. He signed a big deal, he didn't live up to it and two months into the season he's being called a "nigger" on a daily basis by thousands of drunk, heckling fans.

Vazquez was supposed to be this perennial all-star and the ace of the staff for years to come. He never lived up to that.

This time around though, Vazquez is expected to be a one year stop gap as a 3rd or 4th starter who will eat innings and be a lead leaguer in strike outs.

I agree with the RealGM articles note below and it seems like you do as well:

Losing Cabrera is unfortunate, as he became one of the heart and soul members of the Yankees and it was nice to see the team have a legitimate role player amongst their roster of All-Stars.

Look on the bright side though, your team has a better chance of winning the World Series today than it did yesterday.

P.S: It's sickening to me that I believe that... ugh.
 
soxmuscle said:
I took your opposing the deal as exactly that, when now that we're discussing it, it seems that you don't necessarily oppose the trade, just the players that were swapped.

You aren't fond of Vazquez, but I really don't see why.

It's like Cubs fans with Milton Bradley. He signed a big deal, he didn't live up to it and two months into the season he's being called a "nigger" on a daily basis by thousands of drunk, heckling fans.

Vazquez was supposed to be this perennial all-star and the ace of the staff for years to come. He never lived up to that.

This time around though, Vazquez is expected to be a one year stop gap as a 3rd or 4th starter who will eat innings and be a lead leaguer in strike outs.

I agree with the RealGM articles note below and it seems like you do as well:

Losing Cabrera is unfortunate, as he became one of the heart and soul members of the Yankees and it was nice to see the team have a legitimate role player amongst their roster of All-Stars.

Look on the bright side though, your team has a better chance of winning the World Series today than it did yesterday.

P.S: It's sickening to me that I believe that... ugh.
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I'm not sure they will, last year was freaky in that no one was really injured and there were really only two players who had bad slumps if you call it that.
Tex was in a slump at the start, especially against when they were losing against the Bosox. Notice how the yanks started winning when he started hitting against the Bosox...thanks to Arod protecting him.

Swisher wasn't really doing much at the stadium till the very end of the season.

Cano hit but barely did so with runners in scoring position.

Arod wasn't himself but still better than the majority out there.

OK now I am blabbing.
 
Tired.

The Boston pitching bothers me a lot and I am sure they will improve.

Tell what though, I no longer fear the Angels, Seattle may have a good team there.
 
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min0 lee said:
I'm not sure they will, last year was freaky in that no one was really injured and there were really only two players who had bad slumps if you call it that.
Tex was in a slump at the start, especially against when they were losing against the Bosox. Notice how the yanks started winning when he started hitting against the Bosox...thanks to Arod protecting him.

Swisher wasn't really doing much at the stadium till the very end of the season.

Cano hit but barely did so with runners in scoring position.

Arod wasn't himself but still better than the majority out there.

OK now I am blabbing.
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The Yankees were the most fortunate team in all of baseball last season in terms of injuries, less regression than was to be expected for some players and progression from players that were unexpected.

When that happens and you have the most talent/the highest payroll in all of baseball, it makes sense that the Yankees won the series.

I'm not saying the Yankees will for sure win the series because too much can happen between now and next October, but they'll be a forced to be reckoned with all season until the injury bug/their lack of depth kicks in.
 
min0 lee said:
Tired.

The Boston pitching bothers me a lot and I am sure they will improve.

Tell what though, I no longer fear the Angels, Seattle may have a good team there.
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The Red Sox pitching staff is better than the Yankees and in my opinion, with the addition of Lackey, the progression of Buchholz and the return of Matsuzaka, it will be the best in baseball.

I agree. It seems like the Red Sox, Yankees and Mariners have all improved, vastly in some cases, while the Angels have lost integral parts of their team which has helped make them successful this decade.

I thought the A's had a chance last year and sure enough, the Angels were right back in the thick of things. It wouldn't shock me if Brandon Wood finally becomes the player he's supposed to be (Figgins' replacement) and other players step up to make them AL West Champions again, but the 2010 Mariners are the first team in the last couple of years that seem set to challenge them.

I just love what Seattle has done. It may not be the most entertaining baseball to the casual fan with pitching and defense the strengths of the club, but winning will be the ultimate entertainment if the cards fall their way.
 
Something happen, god dammit!

*Baboon kicks thread*
 
The marriage between the Wrigley fans and Bradly was doomed from the start.

Maybe with friendlier fans and media he would be OK there.
 
Like the Cubs, Omar Minaya and the Mets just don't get it.

Sorry Min0.
 
Option for a fifth year, apparently.

They're going to try and sneak some clauses into the contract, but they essentially did what the Cubs did with Bradley. Bid against themselves looking desperate in the process.

The Red Sox get two picks out of it, so woo-freakin-hoo!
 
soxmuscle said:
Option for a fifth year, apparently.

They're going to try and sneak some clauses into the contract, but they essentially did what the Cubs did with Bradley. Bid against themselves looking desperate in the process.

The Red Sox get two picks out of it, so woo-freakin-hoo!
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If the picks are from the Mets farm system you better hope they dump them. :D
I think even the Yankees have a better farm system right now, I haven't checked but I wouldn't be surprised.

At least he's not a nut job like Bradly who I knew was going to fail without the help of my friends or the media to influence me.
It was really a no brainer that I called months ahead, damn I am smart.:nerd

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I hope their studies are correct, the new stadium has been a killer on the "home team".

The Bay Watch is over.

Jason Bay has agreed to a four-year contract worth about $66 million with the Mets, pending the results of a physical exam, a baseball source confirmed to the Daily News.

Bay will be introduced at a press conference next week, providing there are no danger spots in the physicals. The news of Bay's agreement was first reported by WFAN Tuesday afternoon.

The deal includes a vesting option for a fifth year.

The 31-year-old Bay would play left field for the Mets and offers the kind of power bat they desperately need for the middle of their lineup. Last season with the Red Sox, Bay had a career-best 36 homers and 119 RBI. He has knocked in 101 or more runs and hit 30-plus home runs in four of the last five seasons and won the 2004 NL Rookie of the Year award with the Pirates.

In studies of Bay's swing, the Mets determined that he was more likely to thrive at Citi Field than Matt Holliday, this free agent class' other slugger.

This will be Bay's second go-round in the Mets' organization. He was in their farm system from March 24-July 31, 2002, acquired from the Expos but then dealt to the Padres as part of a swap for Jason Middlebrook and Steve Reed.



Read more: Free agent outfielder Jason Bay agrees to four-year deal with New York Mets
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min0 lee said:
I hope their studies are correct, the new stadium has been a killer on the "home team".
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He would have been better off @ Fenway, where his long outs were doubles. 25 HR if he stays healthy with the Mess. He's insane, he should have stayed in Boston.

And these offseasons suck anymore, they drag out into freaking training camp for player signings. If they were smart they would put a time limit on when players could be signed, after that they'd have to wai until May 1 to play...
 
Shillelagh said:
He would have been better off @ Fenway, where his long outs were doubles. 25 HR if he stays healthy with the Mess. He's insane, he should have stayed in Boston.

And these offseasons suck anymore, they drag out into freaking training camp for player signings. If they were smart they would put a time limit on when players could be signed, after that they'd have to wai until May 1 to play...
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I agree, why go to a team that has so many question marks when your already with a team that's dedicated and always competitive.
Both sides lost.
 
min0 lee said:
I agree, why go to a team that has so many question marks when your already with a team that's dedicated and always competitive.
Both sides lost.
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Although Damon to the Sox to get back at the Yankees for 2 years would be intiguing...
 
Word has it the Yankees are not going over the budget this year in order to make a sign next years free agents... Prince Fielder, Joe Mauer, Adrian Gonzalez.....Pujols?? and a class A pitcher.
 
I bet 1000000 rep points that...

Sox will say Beltre is better than Arod
 
Adrian Gonzalez is signed through 2011.

Prince Fielder in Yankee Stadium is a scary though...a left handed hitter that destroys the ball.
 
Fielder would have to DH. What would NY do with Tex otherwise?
 
The Red Sox are going to have the best defensive team in the league behind the best rotation in the league.

Once again, much of the Red Sox success comes down to how well David Ortiz performs.

MVP prediction? :mooh:
 
I can't see the Yankees paying another first baseman Teixeira money to play DH.

Not when over the last two offseasons guys like Nick Johnson, Bobby Abreu and Hideki Matsui have signed for peanuts and many productive hitters still remain on the market.

Mauer, certainly. Crawford, most likely. Another first baseman? not so much.
 
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