Sustanon 250 Problems, Overall advice needed

[mccfinfan]

Brand new to the forum, I looked around old post and couldnt find anything that directly pertained to my Problems, so I apologize if this has already been covered. Also id really like direct advice as a have a few questions.


I just started my second cycle of Sust 250 last week at 1ml/week, with my last cycle having been over a year ago. My first cycle I saw some great gains, but stopped 4 1/2 weeks in because I got a fight offer and had to drop the added weight (Normally 155lbs, bulked up to 170lbs, and have fought my whole life at 145lbs). Needless to say I got some unwanted side effects from dropping abruptly (Decreased libido, acne, test Shrink, etc).

Moving on to my questions/problems.

1.) The Day after my IM Injections, I have extreme pain at the sight of injection(Alternating from L to R Butt cheeks)! I feel like there is a lump in my butt that is beyond painfull to where im literally limping for 3-4 days! I work as a Paramedic on a ALS Ambulance and I know im IMing correctly, so thats not the problem. This happens EVERYTIME, both the 5 shots I did a year ago, and the 1 shot this week. And completely different Sust250 was obtained from different labs, same results.

2.) I feel very sick the day after, and it last 4-5 days. I feel like im running a fever, and am very hot to the touch. And my overall health I just feel sick, like a mild flu! However I do notice a difference when I can get over a Gallon of water in a day, the Fever seems not so severe but none the less present. Again, this happens EVERYTIME and has happened with 2 different Sust250 from 2 different Labs.

Are these normal Side Effects???

Also, I have 5ml Of Decca (Id have to check the mg), should I try and use this or not even bother with it as its not enought o effeicently work? I thought maybe take 1/2ML a week over 10 weeks with the Sust250.

Id really like some overall Advice on how I should take Sust250 (When, How many ML/Week, do I need to take Nolvadex, what do I need after, etc).

If someone could take some time to help me out and give me the rundown/templete on exactly what I should be doing and get me squared away you would have no idea how much it would be appreciated and how much youd be helping someone out! Thank You very much to anyone that replies!!!

 

[Getfit75]

You got sus flu! Why not run e or cyp with dbol?

 

[Osborn]

no promoting

 

[weldingman]

Someone is cooking spam on these threads

 

[mccfinfan]

You got sus flu! Why not run e or cyp with dbol?

Honestly I just never was exposed to anything else. I used to manage a fight gym, and of course we had a Weight room and PT was being done on the side, and our head PT guy recomended Sus and said it was the best (He looked the part so I didnt question it). Now I have 20ml of Sus250 and between the Site pain and the Sickness life sucks!!! lol

But there is a common side effect known as the 'Sus Flu'???

Aside from the problems, can anybody give me some other advice on how I should be doing it and if I should even bother with the 5ml I have of Decca??
Any feedback is appreciated!

 

[mccfinfan]

go get some cypiobolic from Asia pharma that world-pharma.org have on sale now!

What is that? Will it help with the negative SE im having???

 

[mccfinfan]

Ive read alot on here of people recomending at least 500mg/week. Can any 'experts' or experienced users clarify for me please? If so, should I break it up into 2-250mg shots/week or 1-500mg shots/week?

Im worried if I get sick off 250, whats 500 gonna feel like!

 

[theCaptn']

Someone is cooking spam on these threads

fixed

 

[mccfinfan]

No replies??? Thanks guys! Lol

 

[downtown]

Take benadryl everyday while on, also 250mgs of sust is worthless, your basically shuting down your test production for maybe 50mgs more than what you product a week, you need 500mgs, split the dose : monday & thursday. The benadryl will help with the sick feeling.

BTW there is no such thing as sust flu or test flu, its an allergic reaction to the solvents in the gear, which the benadryl will help with.

 

[mccfinfan]

Take benadryl everyday while on, also 250mgs of sust is worthless, your basically shuting down your test production for maybe 50mgs more than what you product a week, you need 500mgs, split the dose : monday & thursday. The benadryl will help with the sick feeling.

BTW there is no such thing as sust flu or test flu, its an allergic reaction to the solvents in the gear, which the benadryl will help with.

I had read that before that 250mg was not enough, then i read that more than 250mg starting is toxic to your liver.

So 25-mg Twice/week on mom & Wed, and just take benadryl everyday? I'll give it a shot, I def appreciate the advice! Any comments on the 5ml of Decca I have? Is it worth taking a 1/2ml a week with the Sust? No sure if its worth the trouble. Thanks again!

 

[mccfinfan]

Take benadryl everyday while on, also 250mgs of sust is worthless, your basically shuting down your test production for maybe 50mgs more than what you product a week, you need 500mgs, split the dose : monday & thursday. The benadryl will help with the sick feeling.

BTW there is no such thing as sust flu or test flu, its an allergic reaction to the solvents in the gear, which the benadryl will help with.

Also, do you think my body will eventually stop feeling so sick or build up an immunity to the Solvents???

 

[downtown]

^ Ya you will eventually adjust, its just a new substance in your body. Also Sust is just test with a bunch of different esters ( hence why the amount of active is so low) and is not toxic.

As for the deca, you dont have enough to get any result from it so i would just keep it till you get more.

 

[bigrene]

You should take your deca 1/2cc a week so you can run it for alittle bit Im running right now sus 500mg every week 375mg of deca week doin great that way it will give you an extra kick since your only doing 250 a week of sus.Try doublin up once you feel better if you can that way those 20ml will run you 10 weeks pretty suffice

 

[mccfinfan]

You should take your deca 1/2cc a week so you can run it for alittle bit Im running right now sus 500mg every week 375mg of deca week doin great that way it will give you an extra kick since your only doing 250 a week of sus.Try doublin up once you feel better if you can that way those 20ml will run you 10 weeks pretty suffice

Thanks for the advice!

Any comment on that Downtown?


Also, what do I need as far as Nolvadex or anything goes?? Thanks!

 

[weldingman]

You got sus flu! Why not run e or cyp with dbol?

Guys read and study up on sust, THE SHIT SUX, short and long esters, who needs that , to many sides, flu, ripps muscles, running this product alone , Iv never gotten to much from it, human or ugl. Stick with test c or e wait on the c or e to kick in with the long estaers , if not take prop for a few weeks then hit the c or e, well worth the wait and more quality gains.

 

[mccfinfan]

Guys read and study up on sust, THE SHIT SUX, short and long esters, who needs that , to many sides, flu, ripps muscles, running this product alone , Iv never gotten to much from it, human or ugl. Stick with test c or e wait on the c or e to kick in with the long estaers , if not take prop for a few weeks then hit the c or e, well worth the wait and more quality gains.

Welding C,
I completely agree that these side effects are def not worth any production I get. Did my second shot in the shoulder yesterday afternoon, and I woke up burning with a fever and shaking in the middle of the night, and my shoulder hurts so bad I cant raise my arm.


Tell me though, if I could obtain what you recomended, could I jump right into it now??? As in stop the Sustanon today and start right up on Test C or E???

Anyways, please respond back, and I appreciate the advice!! Thanks

 

[VictorZ06]

Welding C,
I completely agree that these side effects are def not worth any production I get. Did my second shot in the shoulder yesterday afternoon, and I woke up burning with a fever and shaking in the middle of the night, and my shoulder hurts so bad I cant raise my arm.


Tell me though, if I could obtain what you recomended, could I jump right into it now??? As in stop the Sustanon today and start right up on Test C or E???

Anyways, please respond back, and I appreciate the advice!! Thanks

WM is right, he hit the nail on the head. You don't really want more than one ester of test working at the same time. Those who "know", don't use sust unless it's in excess of 1mg/ew.

The only time we mix test is during the front or tail end of a cycle as we want our blood plasma levels to remain consistent the entire time. As far as test C and test E go, get whatever is cheaper as they are both very similar and will yield the same results. Good luck!


/V

 

[mccfinfan]

WM is right, he hit the nail on the head. You don't really want more than one ester of test working at the same time. Those who "know", don't use sust unless it's in excess of 1mg/ew.

The only time we mix test is during the front or tail end of a cycle as we want our blood plasma levels to remain consistent the entire time. As far as test C and test E go, get whatever is cheaper as they are both very similar and will yield the same results. Good luck!


/V

Victor, thanks for your reply.

But im not quite sure if you answered the question I had. Is it ok to go right from the Sust to the Test??? Ive only had 500mg of Sust total divided into two shots in 8 days.

Also, I have 5ml (not sure the mg id have to check) Of Decca. Should I bother throwing that in with my cycle??? I had just thought I could throw an extra 1/2 ML per shot of that for an addition boost. But I dont wanna throw my system around if its not gonna do anything.

I originally took the 5ml of Decc by itself last summer to help my joints and overall performance for a upcoming fight I had, but I had had loss of libido (Go limp mid stroke), back acne, and felt sluggish. I later learned your supposed to take Decca with some sort of test.

 

[VictorZ06]

Victor, thanks for your reply.

But im not quite sure if you answered the question I had. Is it ok to go right from the Sust to the Test??? Ive only had 500mg of Sust total divided into two shots in 8 days.

Also, I have 5ml (not sure the mg id have to check) Of Decca. Should I bother throwing that in with my cycle???

Keep the deca for another time, IMHO. I can't give you specific advice because I don't know more of your stats...age, bf%, height, diet, previous AAS experience, etc. All these are important factors that need to be taken into consideration when seeking advice. Also, the deca you have can be dosed at 50mg/ml or up to 400mg/ml...so it all depends.

That aside, yes...you can go from sust to a single ester test. Many of us will often use some sust to front a single ester test cycle because of the shorter acting esters it contains. It would be wiser to use prop or susp, but I often see guys using sust if they manage to come across it really cheap and decide to use that instead. I avoid it like the plague.

Since you have it, you can take some along side test e or c for the first few weeks, or drop the sust all together and simply stick to one test. In your case, the latter sounds best due to your sides. Your call. Good luck.

/V

 

[mccfinfan]

Keep the deca for another time, IMHO. I can't give you specific advice because I don't know more of your stats...age, bf%, height, diet, previous AAS experience, etc. All these are important factors that need to be taken into consideration when seeking advice. Also, the deca you have can be dosed at 50mg/ml or up to 400mg/ml...so it all depends.

That aside, yes...you can go from sust to a single ester test. Many of us will often use some sust to front a single ester test cycle because of the shorter acting esters it contains. It would be wiser to use prop or susp, but I often see guys using sust if they manage to come across it really cheap and decide to use that instead. I avoid it like the plague.

Since you have it, you can take some along side test e or c for the first few weeks, or drop the sust all together and simply stick to one test. In your case, the latter sounds best due to your sides. Your call. Good luck.

/V

Victor, thanks again for replying and the advice!

My numbers: 24 years old. 5'10 150lbs. about 7-10 BF%, benching 245lbs right now and can do about 30 consecutive pull ups, and can run 2 miles in 10min (I know doesnt mean shit). Ive done one cycle of Sust 250 at 1ml/week that I stopped after 5 weeks because I got a fight scheduled and needed to lose the added weight. The cycle screwed me up bad stopping abruptly and I looked like I didnt have any definition or muscle tone. I literally just stopped eating and did nothing but cardio for 2 weeks to cut the 15lbs of muscle I had.

Ive since stopped fighting and am just interested in bulking up to 185lbs. Ive always had to keep my weight low and have never been above 165lbs.

You can see a pic of me after weigh ins when I stopped the cycle abruptly and just destroyed my muscles by running in 90 degree weather with trash bags on and not eating. Just google my name, XXX.

 

[theCaptn']

Dude, dont bare your anabolic steroid-taking soul on the internet . . that's just plain retarded. Edit your post, remove you're godam name at least.

 

[Supermans Daddy]

Victor, thanks again for replying and the advice!

My numbers: 24 years old. 5'10 150lbs. about 7-10 BF%, benching 245lbs right now and can do about 30 consecutive pull ups, and can run 2 miles in 10min (I know doesnt mean shit). Ive done one cycle of Sust 250 at 1ml/week that I stopped after 5 weeks because I got a fight scheduled and needed to lose the added weight. The cycle screwed me up bad stopping abruptly and I looked like I didnt have any definition or muscle tone. I literally just stopped eating and did nothing but cardio for 2 weeks to cut the 15lbs of muscle I had.

Ive since stopped fighting and am just interested in bulking up to 185lbs. Ive always had to keep my weight low and have never been above 165lbs.

You can see a pic of me after weigh ins when I stopped the cycle abruptly and just destroyed my muscles by running in 90 degree weather with trash bags on and not eating. Just google my name, XXX

WOAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!!!!!

I am assuming that you are new to ANABOLIC boards as well as using compounds. Homey, PLEASE go and remove your name, and NEVER, EVER do that again. Just so you know, places like this are sometimes great places to network with guys that got the game locked, it is also a stalk'n place for the FEDs just to take a lil peek every now and then.Homey ,perhaps you did'nt notice buts it's BANNERS as to where to order ILLEGAL DRUGS , THINK !!!!!! Since you are new, Ima give this much game on this topic, Weldingman & Vic both gave you a solid word. REAL TALK. Now some more real talk Sus is the shit....................if you are interested in change'n gender.

PEACE and LOVE

 

[theCaptn']

The Capt is a Fed . . all you bitches are busted. Send ALL gears to:
1 Dunghill Mansion, Bumfk, Kentucky 90210

 

[Hammer-She-Rides]

The Capt is a Fed . . all you bitches are busted. Send ALL gears to:
1 Dunghill Mansion, Bumfk, Kentucky 90210

 

[VictorZ06]

Victor, thanks again for replying and the advice!

My numbers: 5'10 150lbs.

You are far to thin, I know that's not what you want to hear but it's the truth.

You don't need anabolics, you need to work on your diet. The best advice I can give you is to EAT EAT EAT. Oh, and EAT!

/V

I'm going to remove your name from your post. Listen to the boys above.

 

[weldingman]

I am the light and the way

 

[mccfinfan]

I doubt the Feds are gonna kick in my door over the 20ml of Sust I have in my medicine cabinet, but none the less, duelly noted and I definetly won't post it again. I go on the Net only as needed and don't hang around on forums or regularly visit web sites, too damn busy for that.

Anyways

Victor, I know I'm too damn skinny. Lol My diet is something I'm really trying hard to work on. I've been taking Protien shakes 4 times daily totaling 160grams, as soon as I wake up, after noon, right before bed, and in the middle of the night. I also started eating like crazy everytime I get a chance (Though it's hard working 12 & 24 hour shifts on an ALS Ambulance). I've probably double my normal food intake (which isn't saying alot). I've been so used to keeping my weight down my whole life (Wrestled in High school, Was on the All Army boxing team, and have done MMA for 3 years since I got out). But after a 3rd shoulder surgery my fight career is over. So I wanna get heavy into weight lifting/body building.

I was told Test will greatly improve your desire to eat due to the added testosterone levels. I wish there was someway of posting Before and after pics.

It may be in my head, but after only 10 days and two shots, I do feel like I'm putting on muscle. I probably would credit that to the added food/protien.


Last question for you Victor.

What else should I be taking with my cycle? Should I add a supplement like Creatine? Ive wheats contradicting reports. Some say I should wait untill I stop to minimize losses after. Also, do I need Nolvadex or another similar product?


Again, thanks for all the advice. If it was in person I'd buy you a couple beers!

 

[downtown]

ya u need the nolva for your pct. creatine, glutamine, and bcaa's will be a great aid to you at this point in the game.

 

[mccfinfan]

ya u need the nolva for your pct. creatine, glutamine, and bcaa's will be a great aid to you at this point in the game.

So your saying take the creatine with the cycle? I already take glutamine.