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The Gabriel Method

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Anyone else tried this? My friend recomended it to me after having some great results with it. I have been overweight all my life and I trust the friend, so I dove in.

I can honestly say its the single best method of diet and health I have ever read. Never have I felt like this that I can remember; even when I was losing weight before, it was a chore, a hassle, a non stop battle of cravings and will power. I got down to 190, my lowest weight to date (since like, grade 8) and over the course of 4 months, a full course load at college, a part time job and financial woes, I gained back almost 25 lbs. That is because I never got past the MENTAL reasons that I was overweight, but that is a lot to get in to. Needless to say I was devastated. It took me over 6 months to get in to that shape, and to go from that to not being able to wear certain clothes was just depressing. I cannot stress how powerful the Gabriel Method can be IF you allow it.

His method is simple: if your body wants to be fat, it will be fat, and if it wants to be thin, it will be thin. This is just my interpretation, and he has a much more intelligible way of putting it. He also has a strong biochemistry background. His biggest asset though, is his achievement. He went from 425 lbs in 2001 to 180 in 2 years and has kept it off for close to 5 years. He has no loose skin, and did not diet once. He eats very healthy, but as he will explain, his body WANTS to be healthy. He did tonnes of research on the chemistry of starvation, and what causes our body to put on fat. He calls them the FAT programs, or Famine and Temperature, and claims if these programs are on in your brain, it doesnt matter what you do, you will stay fat. You can exercise, eat well, but there will be a binge or a relapse and it is not out of weakness, laziness or stupidity, but that your body is ultimately in control, and if it wants to be fat in order to be safe, there is nothing you can do about it.

Again, I am simplifying. He is also huge on visualization, and his book comes with a cd to listen to at bed. He also recomends meditation, de stressing, positive energy, and is big on eating live, organic foods and taking omega 3 supplements. It is a very Eastern approach, and he mentions energy, vitality, and other "intangible" things that to some may seem like bs. I am very open to that though, and am familiar and open to the Law of Attraction, as illustrated in movies like The Secret and What the Bleep do we Know, and the premise that our thoughts and emotions have an energy to them. His method is programming your subconsious mind to WANT to be thin, so that your body takes control. It craves live, healthy, organic, vibrant foods, it has a strong desire to run, to jump, to get to the gym and destress, or jsut head to the park and sprint. Once you program your brain, rewire it so to speak, weight loss is effortless and acheiving your ideal body, without dieting or struggling, is attainable.

This post may be long, and muddled, and will most likely not do Jon Gabriel justice. I am hoping that a few people who have struggled with weight and obesity will check it out, with an open mind, and change their lives. I cannot stress enough how good I feel, and how I am finally in control of food. I never, in my 20 something years of conscious life, have been truly in control until recently.

check out the site, thegabrielmethod.com, and there is also a good torrent on Download music, movies, games, software! The Pirate Bay - The world's most resilient BitTorrent site called The Complete Gabriel method. I originally dled it, but am ordering a CD from the site instead of downloading it because I truly beleive in the value he is giving, and it has literally changed my life. Its a completely different approach then I have ever seen, and I say that in the best way possible. It is not just about fat loss, its about living the best life you can live.

I feel like I should end with a "God Bless You" due to my zealousness; I sound like a religious fanatic. But its just so beneficial in all areas of life that I wanted to share it, with hopes that even a few others, like myself, the people on the fence, who still have the occasional staredown with a slice of pepperoni pizza despite their fitness progress, will change their lives.
 
the delusion of god has done more retardation to the advancement of the human race than anything
 
It's true that the brain is a tremedously powerful tool, and can, to a degree, produce physiological reactions. Studies have shown that visualizing in great detail a physical obstacle you want to overcome will help you reach that goal. For instance, (and, I have successfully used this method) let's say you can normally squat 225 for 8 or 9 reps, if you really push. By visualizing yourself effortlessly squatting 225 for those 10 reps your brain can actually compensate by helping you push harder than normal because it thinks it just did that. You're tricking your brain to work for you. Supposedly, visualizing weight lifting even outside of the gym is believed to stimulate muscle fibers and potentially result in some minor supplementary tissue development.

However -- and, this is a glaring exception -- the brain won't make those changes without the weight lifting itself. Visualization won't make you ripped; it will only augment an already intense program. Likewise, visualizing you're thin won't make you lose fat. It might help you stick to healthy diet better, as you might begin to feel inclined to the healthy lifestyle. Nevertheless, consistent, healthy diet is what will lead to fat/weight loss.
 
neuroscientits claim that we currently only use 10% of the brains potential
 
It's a popular myth propagated usually by individuals that work in ESP, hypnotism and fields of that nature. Actually, by throwing in the word "potential", you are altering the myth a bit, but it's still the same idea. Any sort of analysis of a PET or CAT scan of a human brain will dismiss the myth. A quick Google search will surely give you a more thorough answer.
 
I'm sorry, what I meant to say is:

"God claims that we currently only use 10% of the brains potential"

there. is that more believable now?
 
I'm sorry, what I meant to say is:

"God claims that we currently only use 10% of the brains potential"

there. is that more believable now?

No, its even less believable now. Why not give us some solid references for these ridiculous claims you've made?
 
No, its even less believable now. Why not give us some solid references for these ridiculous claims you've made?

god said!!

you just have to have faith....

if you don't have faith you're pathetic!
 
your blind obedience is appreciated. now can I have some money?

Will it guarantee a place in Heaven? If so will I also be able to buy some spots for deceased friends and family as well?
 
I agree that you cannot sit on your ass, eat shit all day and expect to get your "ideal" body. However, since I have started utilizing everything he mentions, his "method" so to speak, I have noticed unbeleivable results that I have never had in my life. It is truly like a switch went off in my head. For anyone who is or has ever been fat, or has had that unhealthy, emotional response with food, you know what I am talking about. Its gone. Entirely. I HAVE been eating very healthy, and I enjoy everything I eat. I HAVE been working out often and hard, exercising, sprinting, going for jogs, playing sports, and I have loved every minute of it. It is truly effortless, wich happens to be a mantra he suggest repeating to yourself while in an alpha brainwave state (weightloss is effortless, my body is naturally thin, etc).

I have been following his method for about a month now and have noticed incredible results. Like, I honestly cannot say enough about this idealogy. It is a very Eastern approach, and I have been meditating every day for as long as I can, I take every oppurtunity to walk in the sun and just close my eyes, breathing in deep. When I see a field I just want to run, sprint as fast as I can for as long as I can. I had a beer the other day and it repulsed me, and I LOVE beer. Well, loved I suppose. I just have no desire whatsoever to drink it. I also used to LOVE pizza, and I mean love. It was probably my worst enemy for awhile, and I have had 0 cravings. That is by far the biggest difference; before, I didnt eat it because I knew I shouldnt, but the desire was still there. Now, the thought of putting unhealthy food in my mouth is repulsive to me.

I have been eating tonnes of fruits and veggies, and they taste so good to me. Apples are one of my new favorite foods. I bite in and taste everything fully, chewing it slowly until it almost liquefies in my mouth. That is huge as well, for anyone; eating slowly. Every naturally thin person I know eats very slowly and chews their food thoroughly. I used to watch my cousin (who is naturally lean and fit) eating icecream, pizza, cake as if he was indifferent, like he didnt care, while I would get wide eyed at the idea of all these delectable foods and inhale them, going back for more. He just didnt give a shit about it, and ate when he was hungry, and stopped when he was full. He still does, and I get it now. I had some serious mental roadblocks in my head that were keeping me fat. Gabriel identifies all possible reasons, and helps eliminate them.

This is not for everyone, though. If you are close minded, generally skeptical person who finds the ideas of "energy" or hypnosis,the power of the subconsious mind and the idea of daily meditation and visualization to be silly, pointless or nonsense, obviously this approach will not work for you. If, however, you are open minded, welcome new things, have an eastern way of looking at things (zen, positivity, tai chi, energy transfer, etc.) then this can change your life. I am dead serious.

Even if you do not download the cd, or read the book, just practice visualization every night. Get a picture of your perfect body, the body that if you could ask a genie to give you and in a snap you would be it. Keep it on your nightstand and look at it for a few minutes every night. Then, as you go to bed, imagine the day ahead. Imagine waking up when you want to wake up and feeling fresh, energized and ready to go. Imagine performing all the positive habits you want to instill, like going to the gym and having a great working, going to the park and sprinting and eating fresh, healthy, whole foods and imagine the day going exactly how you want it. Then imagine your perfect body. Imagine yourself playing a sport, or at a beach, and take in everything around you; the sights, the smells. Imagine how good you feel to be in your ideal body. Picture it as strongly as you can, and think of all the positive empotions and reactions you will enjoy as a result of it. Imagine working out with your ideal body, going to the park and playing sports, swimming. Reaffirm that weightloss is effortless, and that through the power of your mind you can create the body you desire.

^follow that type of thinking every night as you fall to sleep and I gauruntee you will notice positive results in your life. I literally am waking up every day at 8 o clock without an alarm, its insane. The power that our subconscious mind holds is truly remarkable. Even if you are already fit, visualizing before bed works great for all areas of your life.
 
Laws of Attraction is indeed an interesting topic ;)
 
Yes, I do keep visualizing Jamie Eason walking into my room in lingerie, but sadly it has not happened. Yet.

But what you describe is pretty much goal-setting from the sounds of it. You decided that you want your ideal body more than you want a slice of pizza or a beer.
 
I had a goal before, too. I always have goals. But a goal is a conscious choice.

When something is subconscious though, it is different. It transcends goals and moves in to the realm of belief. It is through subconscious programming that weight loss has been effortless for me, not from goal setting.

This method is targeted towards people who have struggled with being fat their entire lives. It is one thing to have a few extra lbs that have accumulated from poor eating habits and too much beer; it is another to struggle with obesity, emotional eating and mental limiting beliefs.

Goals can be reached, then what? Most people gain back some or all of the weight lost by dieting, as in, eating certain foods and restricting others. This is a problem, as most do not stay on the diet forever and in turn, regress. The beauty of this is that you are literally programming your brain to have the kind of beneficial beleifs about food and fatloss that you want in order to reach your ideal body and live a healthy, vibrant life. Diets never work in the long term for people who have suffered from obesity, or any other emotional or mental eating. Look at Oprah for godsake. If THAT woman is gaining kilos back and getting fat, with all the resources she has to lose weight, then there IS something to the mind/body connection. The Gabriel method just utilizes that.
 
Sounds like just another system that over-complicates weight gain and weight loss in an attempt to sound like it has the answers in a multi billion dollar industry. Oprah? Shit she's always trying some kinda "name brand diet"....That shit NEVER works.
I agree though, some people need a different approach. But how many people that live in the woods need to visualize or meditate to be fit. We sit on our asses waaaaay more than we are desinged to, and our food is devoid of nutrition, bottom line.
Good luck...whatever luck is.
 
Great method and great efforts.
I like this.
Useful for all.
thanks.
 
@Merkaba, it seems that way, and the fact that it comes up as a google ad makes it seem like a scamish type of thing, but it does anything but complicate weight and fat loss. In a nutshell, JG explains how our bodies decide what they want. If we activate the F.A.T programs (famine and temperature), then our body wants to preserve fat to make us safe. These can be activated by a number of factors, such as stress, improper sleeping patterns, an emotional tie that fat=safe, mental reasons... he looks at all possible reasons our bodies would WANT to be fat, and helps eliminate them. He has a biochemistry background, and he goes in to the specifics of what takes place in our body when it goes in to starvation mode.

Like I said, I see it as the single best method of fat loss for PREVIOUSLY OR CURRENTLY FAT people. People who have struggled with weight, or currently struggle with it, and have a different relationship with food then most people. This is by no means a muscle gaining program, and is designed at overall health, fitness, and having a healthy relationship with food. Hardgainers, ectomorphs looking to gain some lbs of muscle, or douchebags like jmorrison are not who it is aimed at.
 
Sorry, but as a former fatty I disagree. The thing that will make you healthier and leaner is knowledge, not prayer. I can visualize all I want, but if I don't know how to diet and train then it's a waste of time.

And about goalsetting - if you reach your goal and don't know what to do next, then you're not doing it right. You should always have some goal beyond what you're at. If you're at 10% bodyfat, go for 8%. If you can finally bench 300, go for 400. In the end it's you making the decisions for yourself, not your body.
 
@Merkaba, it seems that way, and the fact that it comes up as a google ad makes it seem like a scamish type of thing, but it does anything but complicate weight and fat loss. In a nutshell, JG explains how our bodies decide what they want. If we activate the F.A.T programs (famine and temperature), then our body wants to preserve fat to make us safe. These can be activated by a number of factors, such as stress, improper sleeping patterns, an emotional tie that fat=safe, mental reasons... he looks at all possible reasons our bodies would WANT to be fat, and helps eliminate them. He has a biochemistry background, and he goes in to the specifics of what takes place in our body when it goes in to starvation mode.

Like I said, I see it as the single best method of fat loss for PREVIOUSLY OR CURRENTLY FAT people. People who have struggled with weight, or currently struggle with it, and have a different relationship with food then most people. This is by no means a muscle gaining program, and is designed at overall health, fitness, and having a healthy relationship with food. Hardgainers, ectomorphs looking to gain some lbs of muscle, or douchebags like jmorrison are not who it is aimed at.

Well you know I had to take one of my smart ass jabs at it. I didn't google it but it sounds like everything else at first. I might get around to reading up on it though. I hate stuff that has stuff like F.A.T and catchy stuff in it, it screams sell to me. Thats ok in general because he is trying to sell something. And as I always say, i'd do it too if I had the opportunity.

But I do agree, and tell people quite often, especially females, that the average person's body may not want to get super lean, and yes stress plays a big role in that, including workout stress as touched on earlier.

...douchebags...lol...
 
Danzick, it is not just about prayer, or visualization, or meditation, but about real life implementation of healthy eating and training. Do you really think that every overweight person is completely oblivious to what they are doing? Many people ARE very educated on fat burning, weight training and fitness but they are still overweight. Gabriel addresses the deep, underlying issues that may be keeping people fat. I lost a lot of weight and was in really good shape for awhile, I knew everything I could know at the time about fat loss, metabolism, hormones, training methods, sleep patterns, everything to lose bf and maintain a good body. When I went off the diet though, because it is hard and probably unhealthy to stay on a "diet" forever, and when new stresses came added to my life, I regressed and gained the weight back over a period of 4 months. I am not saying everyone does, but a large portion of people who do lose weight when they have not addressed the psychological and possibly physical reasons they are overweight, will gain it back.

I honestly do not know how anyone can be against this way of thinking. No one is saying to just sit on your ass and pray your way to a ripped body. It is addressing the mental, emotional and physical reasons as to why your body may be overweight, and creating new and positive beliefs and habits about weight loss, eating and life.

Definitely read up on it Merkaba, it is relatively new and I think it is going to be big. His book is a national best seller, and on the forums there are thousands of people who swear by it, and some who it has truly changed their lives. It is very holistic, "new age" if you want to call it that, but it is truly remarkable how powerful it can be if you let it.

I have recommended this to 5-6 people in my life who are overweight or struggle with their weight and every single one of them has told me it has helped them unimaginably. If people don't care, or are skeptical and think its bullshit, I couldn't care less. But there are people it can truly help, and those are the ones I want to show this to.
 
Brain-washing yourself into losing weight is probably not very good for anything other than losing weight.

Belief is the death of intelligence.

The reason why people continue to eat in an unhealthy manner is because they're addicted to food. My opinion? This works only insofar as meditation, prayer,therapy etc work in curing drug addicts.

The problem with people who suffer from addiction is that they readily swing from one belief to the next to get the high.

Basically, what I'm saying is that there isn't that large of a difference between the person who avidly pursues eating, drugs, lifting-weights, playing video games etc.

Altering preconditioned patterns of behavior is fine, but let's call it what it is.

Rather than reconditioning your belief system, how about you step outside of it, and realize from an objective viewpoint that losing weight is as simple as energy in, energy out. Anything and everything beyond that is a story you made up to entertain yourself.
 
Belief is the death of intelligence? You mean to say that all beliefs that cannot be proven are anathema to any form of intelligent thought? The entire basis of scientific analysis is that of hypothesis, a "belief" in an idea or theory, and then doing research to prove or disprove it.

Obviously you have not researched your opinion (though that's the great thing about opinions, isnt it? no merit needed!), or else you would have found piles of evidence suggesting that meditation, prayer and hypnosis IS beneficial to many, many forms of therapy. The power of the subconscious mind is remarkable and those who capitalize on it, and try and understand and make it work for them instead of against them, are at an advantage.

There is also a large body of evidence supporting the idea that it is NOT just as simple as energy in energy out. Gary Taubes book Good calories, Bad Calories is a good counter to the "energy in, energy out" argument. There is a lot more to it then just that. I am not saying that the amount of calories you consume is unimportant, but there would be a signifigant chemical and hormonal differnece in your body if you consume 3500 calories of carbohydrate vs 3500 calories of fat and protein. Then again, you do not seem like much of a reader.

People who are not open to this will never benefit from it. The same people who scoff at people who meditate and find it wishy washy are often the people tensed up and honking the horn in the middle of a traffic jam. It is a beleif that benefits myself tremendously, as well as anyone who can accept the fact that our minds are incredibly powerful and capable of helping us achieve whatever we want.

Belief does not kill intelligence, ignorance does.
 
Belief is the death of intelligence? You mean to say that all beliefs that cannot be proven are anathema to any form of intelligent thought? The entire basis of scientific analysis is that of hypothesis, a "belief" in an idea or theory, and then doing research to prove or disprove it.

Obviously you have not researched your opinion (though that's the great thing about opinions, isnt it? no merit needed!), or else you would have found piles of evidence suggesting that meditation, prayer and hypnosis IS beneficial to many, many forms of therapy. The power of the subconscious mind is remarkable and those who capitalize on it, and try and understand and make it work for them instead of against them, are at an advantage.

There is also a large body of evidence supporting the idea that it is NOT just as simple as energy in energy out. Gary Taubes book Good calories, Bad Calories is a good counter to the "energy in, energy out" argument. There is a lot more to it then just that. I am not saying that the amount of calories you consume is unimportant, but there would be a signifigant chemical and hormonal differnece in your body if you consume 3500 calories of carbohydrate vs 3500 calories of fat and protein. Then again, you do not seem like much of a reader.

People who are not open to this will never benefit from it. The same people who scoff at people who meditate and find it wishy washy are often the people tensed up and honking the horn in the middle of a traffic jam. It is a beleif that benefits myself tremendously, as well as anyone who can accept the fact that our minds are incredibly powerful and capable of helping us achieve whatever we want.

Belief does not kill intelligence, ignorance does.

I never said prayer, meditation, and hypnosis weren't valuable methods of therapy.

I merely stated that their effectiveness in food addiction therapy could be likened too their effectiveness in smoking addiction, drug addiction, etc.

Energy in, Energy out. Take in less then you put out, and you lose weight. Everything beyond that is a story you made up to entertain yourself.

Belief systems are ignorance. Belief does not equate to truth.

Who is the Master that makes the grass green?

It's funny that you say that I haven't researched my own opinion, but in reality you still haven't realized that the map is not the territory.
 
Energy in, Energy out. Take in less then you put out, and you lose weight. Everything beyond that is a story you made up to entertain yourself.

Read Good Calories, Bad Calories, or at least research it (or anything for that matter). Gabriel Method too is a well researched, well put forth book that dispels the idea that it is entirely calories in v.s calories out. There is a lot of current information out there saying there is much more to it then that. The old idea that if fat people just ate less, they wouldn't be fat is really getting dated, and there are so many factors to take in to consideration, like the way your body reacts to certain nutrients, the hormonal and chemical effects of food that varies in different people.

Gabriel takes a holistic approach to fat loss, and asserts that if you're body wants to be fat (he goes on to explain the chemical, hormonal, psychological and physical reasons why your body would equate fat with safety) then it will do everything in its power to make you fat, which makes perfect sense if you take into account why humans carry body fat in the first place. Ask any health expert, our brains are still stuck in hunter gatherer mode. It WANTS to hold on to extra fat to keep us SAFE, from famine and cold temperature. It's sole purpose is survival, and it will do anything it can do reach that goal. There are so many factors in the modern world besides tigers chasing us and unbearably cold, food-less winters that our body can only interpret as stresses concerning our survival and trigger your body to store fat, establishing a metabolic "set point" that your body decides is ideal for survival.

You can choose to ignore the mental power we are all capable of. If more diet, training and exercise programs, or anything for that matter took the subconscious and the power it holds over us in to account, things would be so much easier for everything. Almost all success literature nods to the idea that our thoughts form our reality. Take a look at the top humans in almost any field or venture and you will notice a trend among the way that they think.
 
Read Good Calories, Bad Calories, or at least research it...

I haven't disagreed with you once.

I merely made the point that the methodology is inconsequential.

At the end of the day you can argue every variable, and create ever connection possible in defense of your position, but the truth is that things that operate within our physical reality operate based on a set of natural laws.

My opinion is that many people read to much into the methodology looking for some kind of "answer" to their problems when for most (barring actual biological impairments) it's as simple as eating less, and exercising more.

It's a simple as that.

I get the sequence of events, but you apparently don't.

Reason a Person is Fat + Fixing of this reason =/= skinny person

The equation is always as simple as

Person is fat + Eatingless/Workingout = skinny person

People are fat for a whole host of reasons. Many not because of any reason having to do with anything in the "Gabriel Method".

What then is their solution?

Oh yeah, the same as everyone else, eat less, exercise MOAR.
 
I haven't disagreed with you once.

I merely made the point that the methodology is inconsequential.

At the end of the day you can argue every variable, and create ever connection possible in defense of your position, but the truth is that things that operate within our physical reality operate based on a set of natural laws.

My opinion is that many people read to much into the methodology looking for some kind of "answer" to their problems when for most (barring actual biological impairments) it's as simple as eating less, and exercising more.

It's a simple as that.

I get the sequence of events, but you apparently don't.

Reason a Person is Fat + Fixing of this reason =/= skinny person

The equation is always as simple as

Person is fat + Eatingless/Workingout = skinny person

People are fat for a whole host of reasons. Many not because of any reason having to do with anything in the "Gabriel Method".

What then is their solution?

Oh yeah, the same as everyone else, eat less, exercise MOAR.

The method of weight loss is easy to understand, but practicing it is often not. People need to develop meaning in order to engage in action and change. If there is no meaning, there is no motivation.

Humans have mystic tendencies, we develop unsubstantiated beliefs. Everyone does. To ignore that completely and base all actions of verifiable evidence is to deny your own human nature.

I am not asserting that everyone should throw out science and logic and become mystics, but accepting and understanding* the faith based tendencies we often develop is important in order to understand one's self. The man who holds knowledge of himself can apply his will confidently and contently. This applies to weight loss.

*Not necessarily believing.

I am also not implying that fervent belief will change any physical laws of reality, but I am implying that belief in the unverifiable can change the behavior of man, a behavior that is largely subjective. Our behavior is only partially dictated by what we perceive from the objective external reality. The internal reality, which runs wide and deep in subjectivity, also dictates our behavior. Ignoring this duality of human nature isn't wise.

I'll end in saying I have never heard of the Gabriel method and I am not supporting it.

My main point is you can throw logic and reason at an individual, but if he/she in their own subjectivity cannot find meaning, there is no point to engage in action. To engage in behavior will no meaning is a sort of death of human nature.
 
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