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Honestly, just do this. You need to let the process happen. Lyle wrote those refeeds in for a reason.
 
Honestly, just do this. You need to let the process happen. Lyle wrote those refeeds in for a reason.

Yeah, but my BF's too high yet...isn't it?

Let the process happen? What process? What'd I miss?:scared:
 
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Bah, wait the three weeks. You seem to thrive on the suffering. ;)
 
That's because DaMayor isn't happy unless he's miserable. :mooh:

So you have MET me?:laugh:

Invictus

OUT of the night that covers me,
Black as the Pit from pole to pole,
I thank whatever gods may be
For my unconquerable soul.

In the fell clutch of circumstance
I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the bludgeonings of chance
My head is bloody, but unbowed.

Beyond this place of wrath and tears
Looms but the Horror of the shade,
And yet the menace of the years
Finds, and shall find, me unafraid.

It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate:
I am the captain of my soul


--William Ernest Henley


:flex:
 
Sunday's Projected Totals

865Calories,14.4g Fat, 9.5g Carbs, 165.8g Protein.


Well, today's Free Meal was cancelled out by last nights semi-conscious bout with the peanut butter.:suicide: So, today its protein and fibrous veggies.
Today we came back to the restaurant, prepped, cooked, weighed and packaged all of my wife's food for the week (mine stays here) so she should be able to start her plan and I should be able to keep things strict. My plan this week is to attempt to increase my protein intake as much as possible while getting fat and carbs down to record lows.....I will also tighten up on supplements..seem to have slacked off on the fish oil the past week or so, so that goes back in. I will also make more of an effort to concentrate on compound work this week....even if I have to clear the idiots off of the racks.

Lets see if we can make this crazy plan a little crazier.:eyebrow:
 
Interesting! What plan do you have worked out for your wife, and is she agreeable to this? As I recall, she had some idiot trainer friend at the gym or something.
 
Sunday's Projected Totals

865Calories,14.4g Fat, 9.5g Carbs, 165.8g Protein.

Well, today's Free Meal was cancelled out by last nights semi-conscious bout with the peanut butter.:suicide: So, today its protein and fibrous veggies.
Today we came back to the restaurant, prepped, cooked, weighed and packaged all of my wife's food for the week (mine stays here) so she should be able to start her plan and I should be able to keep things strict. My plan this week is to attempt to increase my protein intake as much as possible while getting fat and carbs down to record lows.....I will also tighten up on supplements..seem to have slacked off on the fish oil the past week or so, so that goes back in. I will also make more of an effort to concentrate on compound work this week....even if I have to clear the idiots off of the racks.

Lets see if we can make this crazy plan a little crazier.:eyebrow:

Definitly taking it up a notch. Whats gotten into you?
 
Interesting! What plan do you have worked out for your wife, and is she agreeable to this? As I recall, she had some idiot trainer friend at the gym or something.

Hush woman! ...they might be lurking, lol! :gosh::D

Basically, I have tried to put together meals that are (secretly) very similar to what I have been doing, with a little more flexibility on the fat. We're going with the 1g of protein per/lb of "bodyweight" minimum (debating on this vs. the 1g x LBM:thinking:) with a reasonable (not a truckload) of steamed/saute'ed fibrous vegetables. As far as her caloric intake, I'm thinking 10cals per lb. would be a decent starting point...we'll tweak this as needed. Haven't even mentioned carbs (via sweet potatoes, etc.) just yet. She seems happy with 1-2 servings of (relatively) lean meat and a side of veggies. Tonight I will address supplements. Like many folks, she has gotten away from these...as far as I know. The workout thing? Well, I will just have to get her in the gym with me, or right after I work out, and try to keep her away from the yuppie machines. She really seemed more interested in plate loaded machines than I thought she would, so I'll just work from there.
 
Definitly taking it up a notch. Whats gotten into you?

I'm just getting psyched up for the last three weeks of the 12-week cycle.....and I'm feeling like a slacker over the peanut butter incident....I tore that junk up, lol!
Plus, in a wierd sort of way, I'm kind of apprehensive about the up-coming refeeds. Yes, this sounds completely rediculous, but I am concerned that they (even though I fully understand their function, purpose, and importance) will bring progress to a screeching halt, or turn this thing into a weekly roller coaster ride.
 
I'm just getting psyched up for the last three weeks of the 12-week cycle.....and I'm feeling like a slacker over the peanut butter incident....I tore that junk up, lol!
Plus, in a wierd sort of way, I'm kind of apprehensive about the up-coming refeeds. Yes, this sounds completely rediculous, but I am concerned that they (even though I fully understand their function, purpose, and importance) will bring progress to a screeching halt, or turn this thing into a weekly roller coaster ride.

Oh yeah.. I understand. I was the same way with my refeeds. I had a hard time understanding why I would do three days of low carbs, and then turn around and consume 1000 grams in 24 hours. It's all in the timing and the state your hormones are in at the time you flood it with thise carbs. The science behind it is actually very cool.
 
Hush woman! ...they might be lurking, lol! :gosh::D

Basically, I have tried to put together meals that are (secretly) very similar to what I have been doing, with a little more flexibility on the fat. We're going with the 1g of protein per/lb of "bodyweight" minimum (debating on this vs. the 1g x LBM:thinking:) with a reasonable (not a truckload) of steamed/saute'ed fibrous vegetables. As far as her caloric intake, I'm thinking 10cals per lb. would be a decent starting point...we'll tweak this as needed. Haven't even mentioned carbs (via sweet potatoes, etc.) just yet. She seems happy with 1-2 servings of (relatively) lean meat and a side of veggies. Tonight I will address supplements. Like many folks, she has gotten away from these...as far as I know. The workout thing? Well, I will just have to get her in the gym with me, or right after I work out, and try to keep her away from the yuppie machines. She really seemed more interested in plate loaded machines than I thought she would, so I'll just work from there.

The protein thing - a gram per pound LBM or a gram per pound weight - doesn't matter which you use if you're relatively lean. You can see how it falls apart for someone who is, say, 100 lbs overweight... they simply don't need that much protein.

Set the minimum at 1g per pound LBM to feed the part you want to keep. No need to feed the fat, that's what I tell myself...

After all, you may always choose to go higher if satiety demands and the calories allow.
 
Set the minimum at 1g per pound LBM to feed the part you want to keep. No need to feed the fat, that's what I tell myself... .

Exactly. After years of reading "1g per lb of 'bodyweight' ", I always wondered why....didn't make sense. When I started my diet and read Lyle's take on this, I was relieved to find that I was on the right track after all.
Secondly, this approach is a LOT easier to deal with day to day. I'm only taking in, what? 160~190 grams a day, and this seems tough sometimes. (with whole foods only, that is)
 
Secondly, this approach is a LOT easier to deal with day to day. I'm only taking in, what? 160~190 grams a day, and this seems tough sometimes. (with whole foods only, that is)

It's only tough if you want to enjoy your meals! LOL!
I came to a decision long ago that when training, you had to eat for nessesity first and enjoyment last. So it's not hard to eat 200 grams of protein everyday if you don't try to enjoy eating 1.5 pounds of chicken breast, a half dozen eggs and half a gallon of skim milk every single day.
If you try to enjoy it however, eating all that chicken over and over gets old in about 4 days!
 
Protein...It's What's for Dinner.

847Calories, 18.1g fat, 3.0g Carbs, 163.4g Protein



Monday at the Gym...Welcome to the Social Circus....Like, Oh My Gahhhh!:rolleyes:

Well, let's just say that I had to split my workout today. Rather, I just split early. I only had the patience/time to get through some push/pull stuff....legs will have to be tomorrow. I understand that Spring has Sprung, but wish that they would create a little Jr. Planet Fitness area somewhere else for all of the teenie boppers and posers. it is kinda hard to concentrate on pushing weight when you have a bus load of sugared-up youth throwing freakin' medicine balls around while pretending to do sit ups...it was like a really bad Annette Funicello beach film in there. And...since I'm generally too cool to play the role of grumpy old man, I just let 'em play.

Ruh Roh...It ain't movin'

The scale read 218 today. Again. I am hoping that my little affair with peanut butter and my recent use of salt just caused a little water retention. I won't freak out 'til Thursday. If there is no change, it might be time to go ahead with a refeed..just in case my metabolism is putting on the breaks.


Creatine Monohydrate
Y'know, I have never in the many many years I have lifted (off and on, of course) used Creatine.

Discuss.:nerd:
 
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So, I suppose I will resume the diet for the next two weeks, and then move into category 2.

OH THE GUILT! WHY!? WHY!? EVERYTHING WAS GOING SO WELLLLL.:cry::no::bawling:


:loser2:
 
So, I suppose I will resume the diet for the next two weeks, and then move into category 2.

OH THE GUILT! WHY!? WHY!? EVERYTHING WAS GOING SO WELLLLL.:cry::no::bawling:


:loser2:

All this guilt because you ate half a jar of Jif? LOL!
Sounds like a strongly worded letter to the manufacturer of that peanut butter is in order!
 
All this guilt because you ate half a jar of Jif? LOL!
Sounds like a strongly worded letter to the manufacturer of that peanut butter is in order!

Well, that and....Uh, please refer to posts made at 9:35 and 10:36...they were involved as well.:spaz:

No biggie. I am currently punishing myself with 9.125 ounces of extremely dry chicken breast. I am dipping said chicken breast in a mustard/hot sauce combo that is just hot enough to make the experience painful. If this does not prove effective, I will move on to self-lashing with cat of nine tails.

:D
 
Well, that and....Uh, please refer to posts made at 9:35 and 10:36...they were involved as well.:spaz:

No you didn't!
You actually went at it like that?
What the hell happened?
Did you iron will turn to pudding?
 
No you didn't!
You actually went at it like that?
What the hell happened?
Did you iron will turn to pudding?

I plead diminished capacity. I went nucking futts. :crazy::grin:
Not exactly sure why, really. I suppose all of the discussion about refeeds was stuck in my noggin....well, I did one on the fly. Of course, with all of the WRONG foods, and for the WRONG period of time. Started out innocent enough, just a little teensie weensie bit of peanut butter... but then I thought, what the hell...let's see how much crap I can consume in an hour.

IT'S ALL BUILT'S FAULT!! SHE TOLD ME TO DO IT!:lol:


No worries....I'm back on the wagon.:thumb:
 
I plead diminished capacity. I went nucking futts. :crazy::grin:
Not exactly sure why, really. I suppose all of the discussion about refeeds was stuck in my noggin....well, I did one on the fly. Of course, with all of the WRONG foods, and for the WRONG period of time. Started out innocent enough, just a little teensie weensie bit of peanut butter... but then I thought, what the hell...let's see how much crap I can consume in an hour.

IT'S ALL BUILT'S FAULT!! SHE TOLD ME TO DO IT!:lol:


No worries....I'm back on the wagon.:thumb:


:roflmao: Ha ha haaaa! Oh man... good stuff!
You're right, it's not a big deal. No one gets fat from a single hours binge.
I bet you showed those pop tarts who was in charge though!
 
Today's Honest to Goodness Truthful No Slip Ups Food Intake

884Calories, 18.9g Fat, 3g Carbs, 169.2g Protein


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Over~thinking the over~thunk

Alright, based on a few factors, here's my latest plan. Since fat loss has (possibly) slowed, I will continue to appraoch diet as a category 3 dieter. I viewed some pics on Body Recomp., and based on what I saw, I'm still a cat3. I can't say for sure, because the people who posted their images were less muscular...generally smaller than I am, but appeared to have a similar amount of fat to lose. (if that makes any sense)
However, since I am nearing Cat2 status, I may consider a structured refeed every two weeks...done properly...just in case my leptin levels have changed markedly. I will continue with the (controlled/strict) free meal once a week.

No-Tosis

For whatever the reason, my body isn't going into ketosis as easily...if at all. (previous slack "refeed" aside) Under some circumstances, this might be due to the conversion of protein above my requirements, but since I am taking in so little, or a minimal amount, I don't see how this could be happening now. I have eliminated foods or products that might inhibit this from taking place...we'll see what happens. I'll just stick with the program for a few more days before worrying too much about this.
 
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