Steroids package to USA

[VictorZ06]

Dear members, this book is 100% real,here is not BS lab results,etc!

How do you know this book is "100% real"? (whatever that is supposed to mean) Did you read it (other than the bogus lab results)?

Is it because most of your products are in that book? It looks like that book praises your services. Have you ever done ANY kind of business will Bill? I ask because you state that this book is "100% real". How do you know that?


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[Arnold]

How do you know this book is "100% real"? (whatever that is supposed to mean) Did you read it (other than the bogus lab results)?

Is it because most of your products are in that book? It looks like that book praises your services. Have you ever done ANY kind of business will Bill? I ask because you state that this book is "100% real". How do you know that?

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why are the lab results bogus?

 

[heavyiron]

William lewellyn has some good stuff. Is it all good? No, but his contributions have been good overall.

As far as Anthony Roberts goes I have been in quite a few PM's and E-mails with the guy and he has always treated me well. The guy knows a heck of a lot in my humble opinion. Years ago he sold some extremely good info to Brian Clapp and I must say it is top notch science on anabolic steroids. When I asked him about it he sent me the e-book for free.

 

[World-Pharma.org]

big bump heavyiron. WL have all anabolics books great...from 2002 i think!

also AR is most fair guy i ever see and hear, no BS!

We do not care what you VictorZ06 say but we know lab results in new UGL book are not joke!

best-regards

wp

 

[jcar1016]

Woah easy there WP guy Vic is well liked and respected here I dont think he was being unfair he asked you a legitamate question based on your statement How do you know the labs are accurate were you present for these tests?

 

[Arnold]

As far as Anthony Roberts goes I have been in quite a few PM's and E-mails with the guy and he has always treated me well. The guy knows a heck of a lot in my humble opinion. Years ago he sold some extremely good info to Brian Clapp and I must say it is top notch science on anabolic steroids. When I asked him about it he sent me the e-book for free.

yeah, I have had some PM's on Facebook with Anthony, he's cool in my book.

 

[VictorZ06]

We do not care what you VictorZ06 say but we know lab results in new UGL book are not joke!

Same here. I could care less of what you say as I know very well how you operate.

OK. Answer me this. Why are your products in a "UGL book" when you claim and advertise that your products are all legitimately licensed? I mean, if they are not UGL, why is it in a "UGL book" like you said? I guess Bill considers you to be a UGL?

And lastly....it seems that you "KNOW" that the lab results in his book are not a joke. How do YOU know that? It was a simple question that you could not answer. Perhaps at the very least you can answer my other questions that you are avoiding.


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[jcar1016]

Same here. I could care less of what you say as I know very well how you operate.

OK. Answer me this. Why are your products in a "UGL book" when you claim and advertise that your products are all legitamatly licenced? I mean, if they are not UGL, why is it in a "UGL book" like you said? I guess Bill considers you to be a UGL?

And lastly....it seems that you "KNOW" that the lab results in his book are not a joke. How do YOU know that? It was a simple question that you could not answer. Perhaps at the very least you can answer my other questions that you are avoiding.


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[heavyiron]

yeah, I have had some PM's on Facebook with Anthony, he's cool in my book.

He is a pretty controversial guy but man he finds info out like no one else. If you ever need inside info he has it.

 

[angelo212]

Great post, thank you for the info.
I will and can not say if WL ever took
money to bump a product but if you
think that he is full of shit, I would
like to see you write a better book.
The man knows his shit.

What the hell does someone not believing him have to do with that someone being able to write a better book? Re-read your post and think about what you said.
Nobody said the man doesn't know his shit. Of course he does. He's been in the game for years.

 

[angelo212]

please don't.

I understand. That's why I asked.

 

[angelo212]

They won't know but using a fake name implies breaking another law,which mean added charges if you get caught and feds knock at your door!!!If they catch you with gears as long as you didn't sign for the package you can always lies and tell it was send to wrong adress, if you did use a fake id,there's more chance they won't believe you!!!

I read many times that if there is a problem with Western Union (which most places use, although many are going with other places now) and they need your ID and you used a fake name, your screwed.

 

[angelo212]

William lewellyn has some good stuff. Is it all good? No, but his contributions have been good overall.

As far as Anthony Roberts goes I have been in quite a few PM's and E-mails with the guy and he has always treated me well. The guy knows a heck of a lot in my humble opinion. Years ago he sold some extremely good info to Brian Clapp and I must say it is top notch science on anabolic steroids. When I asked him about it he sent me the e-book for free.

People don't like AR because he puts everybodys dirt out there for all to read. His blog is great. If you read his blog you'll know he pretty much is at war with Brian Clapp. I suggest everyone check his blog out and I assure you, you will learn something weather it is about gear or especially people in the business of bodybuilding, supplements, shit behind the scenes, research chem sites etc.

 

[angelo212]

Same here. I could care less of what you say as I know very well how you operate.

OK. Answer me this. Why are your products in a "UGL book" when you claim and advertise that your products are all legitimately licensed? I mean, if they are not UGL, why is it in a "UGL book" like you said? I guess Bill considers you to be a UGL?

And lastly....it seems that you "KNOW" that the lab results in his book are not a joke. How do YOU know that? It was a simple question that you could not answer. Perhaps at the very least you can answer my other questions that you are avoiding.


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Can't wait to hear his reply to these comments. Jeeez. I never put that thought together. What the hell is his "HUMAN GRADE" stuff doing in the underground book. Never thought of that.

 

[Dusters]

Is it because most of your products are in that book?


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How can you possibly trash a book that you never even read? You obviously have not read it because there is just one AP product that was included in the book (test cyp).

 

[Dusters]

Can't wait to hear his reply to these comments. Jeeez. I never put that thought together. What the hell is his "HUMAN GRADE" stuff doing in the underground book. Never thought of that.

William Llewellyn explained the reasoning behind including several FDA licensed products in the book. Many labs fall into a "grey area". Although, some have licensed products, some also produce non-licensed products (tren, tbol, etc.). Other labs with licensed products included in the book are Balkan and Unigen.

 

[VictorZ06]

How can you possibly trash a book that you never even read?

Easy. I didn't approve of his other books that I read.

I'm not saying the book is complete trash as it does have some basic fundamentals in it. But hey, it's the same info you can find in the stickies on various boards. I have not read the complete book, but from what I read from it...I didn't agree with him on several points. Everyone can draw their own conclusions, if you agree with his dosing protocols for example, well...we have a difference of opinion.

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[Dusters]

If they catch you with gears as long as you didn't sign for the package you can always lies and tell it was send to wrong adress

I think people worry too much about having to sign for packages. How is that proof of anything? You're receiving a package, so what, you don't know what's in it...Hell it could be a surprise gift from someone. And if LE is on to you for a particular package, do you really think not having to sign for it is going to save your ass?

 

[heavyiron]

Easy. I didn't approve of his other books that I read.

I'm not saying the book is complete trash as it does have some basic fundamentals in it. But hey, it's the same info you can find in the stickies on various boards. I have not read the complete book, but from what I read from it...I didn't agree with him on several points. Everyone can draw their own conclusions, if you agree with his dosing protocols for example, well...we have a difference of opinion.

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Lewellyn is conservative for my tastes when it comes to dosing but dosing philosophy is just that, philosophy. It works for some and that is great.

 

[heavyiron]

People don't like AR because he puts everybodys dirt out there for all to read. His blog is great. If you read his blog you'll know he pretty much is at war with Brian Clapp. I suggest everyone check his blog out and I assure you, you will learn something weather it is about gear or especially people in the business of bodybuilding, supplements, shit behind the scenes, research chem sites etc.

Yeah, anyone that is war with Clapp is a good guy in my book. Clapp has scammed thousands of guys and is a total dirtbag with his fake steroids.

 

[Dusters]

Easy. I didn't approve of his other books that I read.

I'm not saying the book is complete trash as it does have some basic fundamentals in it. But hey, it's the same info you can find in the stickies on various boards. I have not read the complete book, but from what I read from it...I didn't agree with him on several points. Everyone can draw their own conclusions, if you agree with his dosing protocols for example, well...we have a difference of opinion.

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I understand where you're coming from, but this isn't a revised Anabolics book, you can't find lab tests in the stickies on various boards, and I don't think there are any dosing protocols. I'm just sayin', don't knock it 'til you try it.

 

[ZECH]

William lewellyn has some good stuff. Is it all good? No, but his contributions have been good overall.

As far as Anthony Roberts goes I have been in quite a few PM's and E-mails with the guy and he has always treated me well. The guy knows a heck of a lot in my humble opinion. Years ago he sold some extremely good info to Brian Clapp and I must say it is top notch science on anabolic steroids. When I asked him about it he sent me the e-book for free.

Well IMO this info is good enough for me. I have never had dealings with AR, only what I have heard from others. Just shows how the internet can be and you cant believe just any info you get. You always have to research for yourself.

 

[Iron Dragon]

Here is my problem with WL's UGL's book. He only used HPLC as a test. That in it's self is not a very accurate way of testing anything. It also does not show many organics and other compounds which have been found in some AAS that cause pain and could be potentially toxic. One other thing I don't like about the testing, is HPLC is only good for tell how much of stuff is in the sample, approximately. The only way to confirm exactly what the compounds are is you need to run an HPLC test with a known and pure substance to compare results with. If you do not, you can not be certain if the compounds being tested for are actually what they are labeled as. And in his book he provides no such comaprisons. So basically, we're all just taking his word for it. And personally, he has broke his word to me on a deal we made a while back. So for me, his word is shit.

If you don't believe me on the accuracy of HPLC, then look it up your self.

 

[VictorZ06]

Lewellyn is conservative for my tastes when it comes to dosing but dosing philosophy is just that, philosophy. It works for some and that is great.

I agree with you 100% on this point, experienced users don't follow his protocols. They simply will not work for me (but will for others). Like you said...it's a philosophy. I called it a "difference of opinion".



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[Dr. Igor]

USA - No problem

I know one real thing. I know a lot of seller who send packages to USA. No problem with post. No problem with customs. 99% delivery success.

 

[heavyiron]

I agree with you 100% on this point, experienced users don't follow his protocols. They simply will not work for me (but will for others). Like you said...it's a philosophy. I called it a "difference of opinion".



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I agree 100% as well my friend.

His cycles are kinda like most experienced guys HRT doses =)

 

[VictorZ06]

Here is my problem with WL's UGL's book. He only used HPLC as a test. That in it's self is not a very accurate way of testing anything. It also does not show many organics and other compounds which have been found in some AAS that cause pain and could be potentially toxic. One other thing I don't like about the testing, is HPLC is only good for tell how much of stuff is in the sample, approximately. The only way to confirm exactly what the compounds are is you need to run an HPLC test with a known and pure substance to compare results with. If you do not, you can not be certain if the compounds being tested for are actually what they are labeled as. And in his book he provides no such comaprisons. So basically, we're all just taking his word for it. And personally, he has broke his word to me on a deal we made a while back. So for me, his word is shit.

If you don't believe me on the accuracy of HPLC, then look it up your self.

Very well put , this is why I called his lab results "bogus"!

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[jcar1016]

Here is my problem with WL's UGL's book. He only used HPLC as a test. That in it's self is not a very accurate way of testing anything. It also does not show many organics and other compounds which have been found in some AAS that cause pain and could be potentially toxic. One other thing I don't like about the testing, is HPLC is only good for tell how much of stuff is in the sample, approximately. The only way to confirm exactly what the compounds are is you need to run an HPLC test with a known and pure substance to compare results with. If you do not, you can not be certain if the compounds being tested for are actually what they are labeled as. And in his book he provides no such comaprisons. So basically, we're all just taking his word for it. And personally, he has broke his word to me on a deal we made a while back. So for me, his word is shit.

If you don't believe me on the accuracy of HPLC, then look it up your self.

What would be the best testing method dragon? Gaschromatograph maybe?

 

[fredlabrute]

I know one real thing. I know a lot of seller who send packages to USA. No problem with post. No problem with customs. 99% delivery success.

If you know seller that send package in canada at a 99% delivery rate, i'll buy you free test dr!!!!!!
US custom are a ride in the park beside canadian custom!

 

[jcar1016]

Yeah Canada customs is hardcore. My sister moved to Ontario in 93 and one year I sent her a card with a flower pressed in it customs actually sent it back with a letter that I could not send foreign plants into Canada without a permit I couldn't believe it. Most people dont believe me when I tell em about that but I swear it really happened.