Arizona them dirty spic,jews

[bio-chem]

Wait...did you just say that the US crime rate is "over the roof" and then talk about how nice it is Venesuala and Columbia?

Holy. Fucking. Shit.

Both of those countries have a level of government corruption that makes what goes on in the US look like nothing. Not to mention the death and destruction caused by the drug cartels. Columbia overtook South Africa as the murder capital of the world.

Really man, think before you type.

this system of not being able to rep DOMS whenever I want really pisses me off

 

[DOMS]

this system of not being able to rep DOMS whenever I want really pisses me off

If it makes you feel better, you can let me drive your Evo again. Or you can just give me the Evo. Whichever...

 

[HialeahChico305]

Wait...did you just say that the US crime rate is "over the roof" and then talk about how nice it is Venesuala and Columbia?

Holy. Fucking. Shit.

Both of those countries have a level of government corruption that makes what goes on in the US look like nothing. Not to mention the death and destruction caused by the drug cartels. Columbia overtook South Africa as the murder capital of the world.

Really man, think before you type.

I gave you two horrible examples, but I've never seen such beautiful women like there is in venezuela and colombian which might had triggered the need for me to point out their beaches. Other than that the whole south america is pretty much nice to travel and visit, Bogota Colombia was ok while I stayed not a lot of noise, but it is a drug war country. Chile is pretty much on the rise economically and just suffered a minor setback due to the horrible earthquake. Iquitos, Peru was also quiet and fun. The point I was trying to make is that you need to stop putting so much focus and energy towards the immigrants and worry about The united states being number #1 amongst industrialized nations in murder, and number 24 according to your link. I doubt deporting a couple of people (mexicans and some immigrants) will change that. Its all about the Morals and family values of a society that help a country stay off that chart.

 

[DOMS]

The point I was trying to make is that you need to stop putting so much focus and energy towards the immigrants and worry about The united states being number #1 amongst industrialized nations in murder, and number 24 according to your link. I doubt deporting a couple of people (mexicans and some immigrants) will change that. Its all about the Morals and family values of a society that help a country stay off that chart.

A couple of people? There are upwards of 20 million illegals. Deporting them would have a great effect on making the nation better.

You pull up the fact " number #1 amongst industrialized nations in murder" without stopping to consider it's meaning. Of all the developed nations, the US has the highest number of illegal immigrants. Look at the crime caused by race and why the US has the highest murder rate of a first world nation becomes obvious.

France has the next highest population of third world people, and guess where they place on the list of murder rates among first wold nations? Number two. And so on. Iceland being the exception, because its population is so small that meaningful comparisons are skewed.

The third-world people that you say are no problem actually cause the higher murder rate (and infant mortality) that you talked about. Hell, I lived in Arizona for three years. There we so many Mexicans throwing babies into dumpsters, to cook to death in the summer, that it doesn't even make the news anymore.

Also, most other first world nations have an average population of a single US state. Switzerland has a population of 7.6 million people. That's about 2% of the US' population.

Also, other first world nations like to fudge the numbers. In the UK, for example, if a murder charge is pleaded down, it's not counted as a murder; but it is still counted as a murder in the US.

 

[bio-chem]

If it makes you feel better, you can let me drive your Evo again. Or you can just give me the Evo. Whichever...

option 1. not option 2.

 

[bio-chem]

A couple of people? There are upwards of 20 million illegals. Deporting them would have a great effect on making the nation better.

You pull up the fact " number #1 amongst industrialized nations in murder" without stopping to consider it's meaning. Of all the developed nations, the US has the highest number of illegal immigrants. Look at the crime caused by race and why the US has the highest murder rate of a first world nation becomes obvious.

France has the next highest population of third world people, and guess where they place on the list of murder rates among first wold nations? Number two. And so on. Iceland being the exception, because its population is so small that meaningful comparisons are skewed.

The third-world people that you say are no problem actually cause the higher murder rate (and infant mortality) that you talked about. Hell, I lived in Arizona for three years. There we so many Mexicans throwing babies into dumpsters, to cook to death in the summer, that it doesn't even make the news anymore.

Also, most other first world nations have an average population of a single US state. Switzerland has a population of 7.6 million people. That's about 2% of the US' population.

Also, other first world nations like to fudge the numbers. In the UK, for example, if a murder charge is pleaded down, it's not counted as a murder; but it is still counted as a murder in the US.

there is no room in debate for facts and rational thought. you will stop that right now

 

[HialeahChico305]

A couple of people? There are upwards of 20 million illegals. Deporting them would have a great effect on making the nation better.

You pull up the fact " number #1 amongst industrialized nations in murder" without stopping to consider it's meaning. Of all the developed nations, the US has the highest number of illegal immigrants. Look at the crime caused by race and why the US has the highest murder rate of a first world nation becomes obvious.

France has the next highest population of third world people, and guess where they place on the list of murder rates among first wold nations? Number two. And so on. Iceland being the exception, because its population is so small that meaningful comparisons are skewed.

The third-world people that you say are no problem actually cause the higher murder rate (and infant mortality) that you talked about. Hell, I lived in Arizona for three years. There we so many Mexicans throwing babies into dumpsters, to cook to death in the summer, that it doesn't even make the news anymore.

Also, most other first world nations have an average population of a single US state. Switzerland has a population of 7.6 million people. That's about 2% of the US' population.

Also, other first world nations like to fudge the numbers. In the UK, for example, if a murder charge is pleaded down, it's not counted as a murder; but it is still counted as a murder in the US.

Hay caramba doms. See doms im on your side about getting this immigration mess solved, we just have different views and methods on how it should be done, but at the end have the same goal. See I wouldn't Wish even my worst enemy to travel to gringo land illegally. Sure there is opportunity and advanced technology but who wants to be exploited (as a immigrant worker of course), have their kids go to a school with declining education level (another big issue within united states young population), declining moral values as well as religion values amongst teens, Glorified drug consumption within most communities, the list goes on. You might solve some issues if you deport all immigrants, but the problems in your country stand (just like any other country) and basically its much deeper than illegals/mexicans.

 

[DOMS]

Hay caramba doms. See doms im on your side about getting this immigration mess solved, we just have different views and methods on how it should be done, but at the end have the same goal. See I wouldn't Wish even my worst enemy to travel to gringo land illegally. Sure there is opportunity and advanced technology but who wants to be exploited (as a immigrant worker of course), have their kids go to a school with declining education level (another big issue within united states young population), declining moral values as well as religion values amongst teens, Glorified drug consumption within most communities, the list goes on. You might solve some issues if you deport all immigrants, but the problems in your country stand (just like any other country) and basically its much deeper than illegals/mexicans.

Your idea of solving the immigration issue is to open the doors wide. That's not solving the issue, that's just making it worse.

Even with the declining level of education in the US (partly to blame on the illegals skewing the statistics), it's still worlds better than all of Central and South America. It's kind of like a poor person making fun of a rich person for losing 1 million dollars of his billion dollar net worth.

Glorified drug consumption? You really aren't looking at countries in Central and South America that you're comparing the US to. Most of the rich people their get their money from drugs. And the average Joe covets after the lifestyle of the rich. In this country, it's being an athlete, movie star, or lawyer. What do you think it is in most of Central and South America? Yes, it's drug dealers.

The only drugs that get any glorification in the US are alcohol and pot. Every other drug is vilified. From smoking to meth to cocaine; it's all vilified.

I'm not saying that the US' only problem is illegals, but illegals are a big and one that we can objectively fix. The strain that illegals put on civil resources such as hospitals and welfare are enormous. Add the incredible amount of crime on that. They have a huge negative effect on the US.

 

[petphotos]

I've never seen such beautiful women like there is in venezuela and colombian which might had triggered the need for me to point out their beaches.

This I will whole heartedly agree with. I spent 8 years in the Houston area and met a number of women from Venezuela and they were gorgeous and very nice ladies.

The rest, I have to say that there are major problems that I don't see any good answer for. It is kind of like a problem we have here with bullies in the schools. From my observations of 67 years, about the only way to cure that problem is by euthanasia.

I have come to the conclusion that our form of government and society is self defeating and while a great idea, in practical terms will not work nearly as well as advertised.

 

[HialeahChico305]

Your idea of solving the immigration issue is to open the doors wide. That's not solving the issue, that's just making it worse.

Even with the declining level of education in the US (partly to blame on the illegals skewing the statistics), it's still worlds better than all of Central and South America. It's kind of like a poor person making fun of a rich person for losing 1 million dollars of his billion dollar net worth.

Glorified drug consumption? You really aren't looking at countries in Central and South America that you're comparing the US to. Most of the rich people their get their money from drugs. And the average Joe covets after the lifestyle of the rich. In this country, it's being an athlete, movie star, or lawyer. What do you think it is in most of Central and South America? Yes, it's drug dealers.

The only drugs that get any glorification in the US are alcohol and pot. Every other drug is vilified. From smoking to meth to cocaine; it's all vilified.

I'm not saying that the US' only problem is illegals, but illegals are a big and one that we can objectively fix. The strain that illegals put on civil resources such as hospitals and welfare are enormous. Add the incredible amount of crime on that. They have a huge negative effect on the US.

Your view of south america its so blurry that its near impossible for you to make a accurate assumption on a land that you've never traveled nor will probably have any type of intentions on traveling or understanding in the future. You perception of a society outside your box called utah comes from the discovery channel from the assumptions your making ( People in south america strive to be drug dealers? you are way off). Now you partly blame immigrants on your declining education and moral values? This is a joke correct? Did CNN tell you this? Christianity is quite strong outside the USA ( its also thought in most public schools unlike America) and while some disagree with that particular religion it teaches people good values, the importance of a family structure , etc. etc.


PS: I never agreed on open borders.

 

[HialeahChico305]

This I will whole heartedly agree with. I spent 8 years in the Houston area and met a number of women from Venezuela and they were gorgeous and very nice ladies.
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This breed of women is amazing. They have all the right qualities (down to earth, beautiful , great body, freaks in the bed). They are very opened minded and quick to tell you exactly what they want. If it wasn't for Chavez I would probably be living in venezuela right now, not only because of the women.....also because I can fill up my tank with $1. The food kinda sucks though , not a fan.

 

[DOMS]

Your view of south america its so blurry that its near impossible for you to make a accurate assumption on a land that you've never traveled nor will probably have any type of intentions on traveling or understanding in the future. You perception of a society outside your box called utah comes from the discovery channel from the assumptions your making ( People in south america strive to be drug dealers? you are way off). Now you partly blame immigrants on your declining education and moral values? This is a joke correct? Did CNN tell you this? Christianity is quite strong outside the USA ( its also thought in most public schools unlike America) and while some disagree with that particular religion it teaches people good values, the importance of a family structure , etc. etc.


PS: I never agreed on open borders.

Much like the rest of your assumptions, you're wrong, I don't live in Utah.

I get my information from a wide, wide range of sources, not from the talk box though. I'm also not saying that all people in those areas want to be drug dealers, but it's easy to understand why many would. It's the pinnacle of financial success in many of those places.

Since when does being Christian get you a free pass on being moral? The Italian Mafia were devout Catholics (in practice, anyway).

Although, I will give it to you that, other than Jamaica, I have zero intentions of going to anywhere in central or south America.

You're idea of a "solution" is immigration "reform." By reform, you mean that it should be easier to get into the US. Which is tantamount to throwing the doors wide open. Feel free to sugar-coat it however you want, but that's ultimately what it is.

Lastly, the illegal immigrants, who come from third-world countries, bring their third-world style of living here. Which does fuck with so many quality of life statistics. Or are you saying that Mexicans throwing their babies into dumpsters doesn't effect infant mortality numbers? Or that gangs like 18th Street (the largest gang in LA and with 65,000 members nationwide), made up entirely of illegals, doesn't effect crime rates?

Justify however you want.

 

[jmorrison]

If it makes you feel better, you can let me drive your Evo again. Or you can just give me the Evo. Whichever...

If by Evo you are talking about a Harley Evo, then Bio just became the coolest mormon on the planet.

 

[DOMS]

If by Evo you are talking about a Harley Evo, then Bio just became the coolest mormon on the planet.

Neg. He owns a Lancer Evo. Dollar for dollar, one of the best cars on the road. He let me drive it.

 

[DOMS]

And this version is several years old.

YouTube Video

 

[tucker01]

Neg. He owns a Lancer Evo. Dollar for dollar, one of the best cars on the road. He let me drive it.

Did you guys hold hands and kiss as well

 

[DOMS]

Did you guys hold hands and kiss as well

No. I told you: I only do that for you.

 

[jmorrison]

Did you guys hold hands and kiss as well

Of course not. We all know Bio's take on homosexuality.

They just spooned like any other straight men would!

 

[bio-chem]

LOL at the last few posts. hahahhah

 

[withoutrulers]

Most of the posts on this subject are either sarcastic or inspired by beck/limbaugh. Allow me to pitch my two cents in the toilet here and provide a link to THE man with the insights into foreign policy YouTube - Noam Chomsky - No Mas Muertes! Noam Chomsky is called the worlds most quote intellectual for a reason. Put on your patience caps cause he's old and speaks slowly. Maybe you'll give this a listen and come to understand the economic reasons driving immigration issues today. Maybe you'll completely ignore it like a bunch of racist little fucktards too. Either way, spend the money supporting welfare expense for immigrants or spend the same or more on policing the border like a totalitarian state.

 

[theCaptn']

goddam jews

 

[withoutrulers]

goddam jews

as always the capt'n has a point. Lets blame it on the folks that are already 6million(nazi)/20million(Bolshevik) members shy of an army. With their curly sideburns and their fancy hats Who are you trying to fool?

 

[DOMS]

Most of the posts on this subject are either sarcastic or inspired by beck/limbaugh. Allow me to pitch my two cents in the toilet here and provide a link to THE man with the insights into foreign policy YouTube - Noam Chomsky - No Mas Muertes! Noam Chomsky is called the worlds most quote intellectual for a reason. Put on your patience caps cause he's old and speaks slowly. Maybe you'll give this a listen and come to understand the economic reasons driving immigration issues today. Maybe you'll completely ignore it like a bunch of racist little fucktards too. Either way, spend the money supporting welfare expense for immigrants or spend the same or more on policing the border like a totalitarian state.

A whole lot of nothing your wrote there.

Your mother would be proud.

 

[withoutrulers]

A whole lot of nothing your wrote there.

Your mother would be proud.

I'll go out on a limb here and assume you didn't watch the video. My mother is on your side on this issue cause she is the same kind of hero worshiping follower. "I'll just listen to what ever the corporate shill talking heads tell me to believe". Chomsky managed to get himself on Nixon's enemy list. You know you're saying something important when the president hates your guts. Beck, limbaugh are quite safe cause the things they say fall safely within the excepted margines of american political disscussion. :: Download Free Political Documentaries And Watch Many Interesting, Controversial Free Documentary Films On That You Wont Find On The TV! :: Watch manufacturing consent and Orwell rolls in his grave. Learn about concision and how "acceptable" political disscorse is propagandised. The use of racist scapegoating is a distraction technique. Keep the people divided and conquered. The natural enemy of a governing body is the population being governed.

 

[theCaptn']

withoutrulers is my favourite candy-eating jew

 

[GearsMcGilf]

You guys made any progress on solving the world's problems yet? I mean you're up to 4 pages already, you should be making progress by now FFS.

 

[DOMS]

I'll go out on a limb here and assume you didn't watch the video. My mother is on your side on this issue cause she is the same kind of hero worshiping follower. "I'll just listen to what ever the corporate shill talking heads tell me to believe". Chomsky managed to get himself on Nixon's enemy list. You know you're saying something important when the president hates your guts. Beck, limbaugh are quite safe cause the things they say fall safely within the excepted margines of american political disscussion. :: Download Free Political Documentaries And Watch Many Interesting, Controversial Free Documentary Films On That You Wont Find On The TV! :: Watch manufacturing consent and Orwell rolls in his grave. Learn about concision and how "acceptable" political disscorse is propagandised. The use of racist scapegoating is a distraction technique. Keep the people divided and conquered. The natural enemy of a governing body is the population being governed.

All of that means jack shit. I've posted fact after fact in various threads about the negative effects of illegals in this country.

You show your idiocy by claiming the use of "racist scapegoats." It shows you either know nothing substantive about the issue or you're in denial.

 

[DOMS]

You guys made any progress on solving the world's problems yet? I mean you're up to 4 pages already, you should be making progress by now FFS.

We're all in complete agreement that you're humanity's greatest failure.

 

[Dark Geared God]

We're all in complete agreement that you're humanity's greatest failure.

Now thats funny

 

[withoutrulers]

All of that means jack shit. I've posted fact after fact in various threads about the negative effects of illegals in this country.

You show your idiocy by claiming the use of "racist scapegoats." It shows you either know nothing substantive about the issue or you're in denial.

Fact after fact of info framed to serve agendas is still propaganda serving the masters. You're missing the larger point here. It would behove you to come to understand why these issues get discussed so loudly close to elections. They have no value, hurt no one except poor people incapable of defending themselves politically, and help to inspire knee jerk patriotism of the variety that blinds people to the true intentions of the ruling class. I really wish you'd watch that video link but i'm betting you'll just dismiss this as part of the "liberal conspiracy".