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Andro series from Primordial Performance is a go

thats awesome!

go Primordial!

go Orbit!
 
Prince said:
I was under the impression that PP was getting out of the PH business, what changed?
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PP decided to get out of the non-DSHEA compliant PH business.
 
Prince said:
for now. ;)
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for real, the government will do what they want when they want, they can ban protein for some stupid reason and itll get done if they is enuff bs behind the scenes

the only thing dhea has for it, is the old age community, who gobble the stuff up

i saw that report on the bill vs dhea, pretty much they wiped their ass with it, so maybe primordial has figured something out here, while all the other companies start dropping their phs cause of lawsuits......the only crap thing is until their exists clones,by cornering the market, pp can charge what they want, and will always have the needle phobic for consumers
 
Ph companies aren't dropping their products because of lawsuits. They are dropping them when guys with the letters DEA/FDA show up at their door. Having the name andro in the product is already a monster mistake. People still don't get it, saying your compliant and being compliant, are two different things.

Just like the gmp bucket that was used to make dermals.
 
1Fast400 said:
Ph companies aren't dropping their products because of lawsuits. They are dropping them when guys with the letters DEA/FDA show up at their door. Having the name andro in the product is already a monster mistake. People still don't get it, saying your compliant and being compliant, are two different things.

Just like the gmp bucket that was used to make dermals.
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Eric and company have taken everything into calculation and are ready for anything. I read his article Birth of the AndroSeries | Primordial Performance Blog . Give it a read. As a rep it makes me really confidant after seeing this.
 
the problem with any metabolite of DHEA is that once they ban DHEA this whole line of products is finished, now will they ever ban DHEA? well, its been proposed a few times, so you just never know.
 
Prince said:
the problem with any metabolite of DHEA is that once they ban DHEA this whole line of products is finished, now will they ever ban DHEA? well, its been proposed a few times, so you just never know.
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True but if dhea is banned... lord knows by that time everything will be banned. Or atleast that would be logical... which the government isn't. lol :banned:
 
FDA regulates dietary supplements under a different set of regulations than those covering "conventional" foods and drug products (prescription and Over-the-Counter). Under the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act of 1994 (DSHEA), the dietary supplement manufacturer is responsible for ensuring that a dietary supplement is safe before it is marketed. FDA is responsible for taking action against any unsafe dietary supplement product after it reaches the market. Generally, manufacturers do not need to register their products with FDA nor get FDA approval before producing or selling dietary supplements.* Manufacturers must make sure that product label information is truthful and not misleading.
FDA's post-marketing responsibilities include monitoring safety, e.g. voluntary dietary supplement adverse event reporting, and product information, such as labeling, claims, package inserts, and accompanying literature. The Federal Trade Commission regulates dietary supplement advertising.


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The site had many links explaining further what being dshea compliant entails. Seems to me that if primordial performance claims their new androseries is compliant, they could get in quite a bit of trouble if these were false claims, just may opinion I trust if they say they are compliant, then they are.
 
Prince said:
the problem with any metabolite of DHEA is that once they ban DHEA this whole line of products is finished, now will they ever ban DHEA? well, its been proposed a few times, so you just never know.
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Been proposed and shot down as there is a large lobbying group keeping it legal. Too bad we can't get this for other things...
 
The biggest question is do they work as claimed. If they do, great, then hopefully people will buy more and the price will go down as it is WAY out of wack at the moment in my personal opinion.
 
oufinny said:
The biggest question is do they work as claimed. If they do, great, then hopefully people will buy more and the price will go down as it is WAY out of wack at the moment in my personal opinion.
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Agreed, I've seen a few other places stating that the price per unit plus the overhead and set backs really drove up the price, but as I've seen with plenty of other primordial performance products they will be expensive initially, then they find a way to lower prices, hoping this happens as well.
 
1fast400 said:
love the lack of understanding of compliance in this thread. Too funny
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well instead of being an ass why don't you clarify this big misunderstanding we all seem to have here.
 
HereToStudy said:
Because he is just looking to whine in our threads.
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If he wants to whine, look at some of the other posts, those are proper whines (see my post as example). :loser2: PP makes good products but (no offense) they are a bit proud of them with the prices. The good news is unlike USP Labs, most of them end up being worth the price and you don't need three bottles for a decent run.
 
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