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Im not feeling very happy right now as i have the same lot# and exp, date and same isn #

Make sure to check the last 4 of the isn close I have a few from different shipments and they are all different (every vial)
 
Just stuck it in the freezer.

On my last vial of sustabolic and due another shot today so will do that after.
Put some EQ WP gave me in there aswell.

So i have
GP Test E
GP Prop
GP Deca
WP BoloJect.

Lets see what happens.

I have done
8 Weeks of GP Test E 500mg/w Gained around 8lb
Got git with a Viral infection week 3.
Diet was ok but not perfect.

8-16 AP Sustabolic 750mg EOD Gained around 10lb.

I am confident both will crash.
 
left my test c in the freez all night looks the same as when it went in i dont know how its working yet only been 2 weeks every number is exactly the same on the isn and it didnt crash so idk if i got ripped off im gonna be pissed
 
Yeah i am starting to doubt it aswell.

But thing is the AP stuff is doing the same.

GP stuff very thick oil
AP Really thick oil.

No crystal of floating white bits ?

Anyone any idea whats going on ?
 
Just checked them.

Been in there for 2 hours maximum setting on freezer.

WP stuff has frozen solid
Same with the GP gear.

Some oil still floating around the vials but huge big white cluster frozen in the middle.
That should have well and truly crashed both gears.

I just hope that the experiment comes out with some good results for both parties.
Frozen all my gear !
 
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Left them until they all frozen solid.
GP Test E
GP Deca
GP Prop
WP boloject
AP Sustabolic.

Left them to go back to room Temperature.

Guess what.....
They are all the fucking same.

So either its a myth that you can crash gear by temperature.
Or They are both Fake/legit.

My opinion both are G2G i don't know WTF happened to brundel's gear.
Soon as you noticed it was bellow par you should have Jamp on naps like a pedophiles head.
Maybe it was a bad batch ?
Maybe your Diet wasn't in gear ?
who knows.

Fact is Naps Gives Good quality gear at at a amazing price.
Peace and Love.
 
i have the same lot as brundel i left mne all night it never froze and looked the same wehn i put it in as when i took it out yellow no changes.. i know it hurts after i shoot so i shit 250mg test c from my doc ill see if tht hurts for a couple days after shot same thigh as i did the week before tht swelled up on me and hurt like a mofo so we will see i hate for it to be bad idk will find out in a couple more weeks if results arent there ill know thn lol
 
Just checked them.

Been in there for 2 hours maximum setting on freezer.

WP stuff has frozen solid
Same with the GP gear.

Some oil still floating around the vials but huge big white cluster frozen in the middle.
That should have well and truly crashed both gears.

I just hope that the experiment comes out with some good results for both parties.
Frozen all my gear !

Thats odd.
What temp is your freezer?

2 hours and you got cottonseed oil with alcohol in it to solidify?
HOLY SHIT!
Without alcohol it wouldnt freeze untill it was -15c
Water doesnt even freeze that fast.
must be magic

Even even then.........
Before an oil will solidify it will become milky.
This is called a cloud point.

Unless you live in the arctic circle I doubt this but who knows.
I do know what happened with mine.

Whats funny about the whole thing you might ask?
BKNOXX has some naps GP cyp as well.....same lot numbers.
He had been asking us why nothing was happening to him on his first cycle at 500mg weekly and why his leg was swollen to the knee after injection.

THis was well before this thread existed.

THe other thing?.....he put his in the freezer.....not 2 hours...over night.
Looks exactly the same as when it went in..

Sorry bro...but of course a napsrep is gonna say everything went well.
So far for everyone else..it hasnt.

My asia pharma stuff didnt even need to go in a freezer...the shit crashed on the counter.
 
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Here is what a vial looks like when the gear has crashed in it.
Not cloudy in the center.
Big burly test crystals form.....ESPECIALLY when they form in a super cold environment.
This vial has been in my cabinet where then temp maybe....reaches 50 degrees.
Warmer than my refridge.....alot warmer than any freezer.
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i have the same lot as brundel i left mne all night it never froze and looked the same wehn i put it in as when i took it out yellow no changes.. i know it hurts after i shoot so i shit 250mg test c from my doc ill see if tht hurts for a couple days after shot same thigh as i did the week before tht swelled up on me and hurt like a mofo so we will see i hate for it to be bad idk will find out in a couple more weeks if results arent there ill know thn lol

That sucks bro.
Its this reason why Im still posting in this thread.
People dont deserve to have this happen to them.
I understand you cant trust everyone in another country peddling illegal medications...fair enough....but dont come on here and try to tell people everything is ok...cause its not.
 
Left them until they all frozen solid.
GP Test E
GP Deca
GP Prop
WP boloject
AP Sustabolic.

Left them to go back to room Temperature.

Guess what.....
They are all the fucking same.

So either its a myth that you can crash gear by temperature.
Or They are both Fake/legit.

My opinion both are G2G i don't know WTF happened to brundel's gear.
Soon as you noticed it was bellow par you should have Jamp on naps like a pedophiles head.
Maybe it was a bad batch ?
Maybe your Diet wasn't in gear ?
who knows.

Fact is Naps Gives Good quality gear at at a amazing price.
Peace and Love.

I have personally manufactured 1000's of vials of test cyp...
Temp crashes them..no myth.
You are saying something happened to yours that isnt happening to anyone else.
The only thing I am 100% certain of is there is no testosterone in his vials or mine. So yes its a bad batch.
Once again....I contacted more than one person about this.

I cook 3lbs of chicken every morning and eat it throughout the day.
usually with 1-2 cups of brown rice and broccoli+carrots per meal.
I also eat a 1lb double cheeseburger and refillable fries + a milkshake 2x weekly. + BCAA and cytomax 2x daily..
I have a big box full of vits I take daily.
Its not diet related.
And I have been training hard and heavy for a long time..decades.

Im currently at day 9 of my blast and its working for certain...I feel awesome
Libido is so high its uncomfortable
acne starting to show
10 days ago I had been requiring 10hrs sleep + a nap on training days.
last few days its been 8hrs..no nap....feeling stronger than ever.

The GP stuff? I felt only dissapointment.
oh and regret
 
Thats odd.
What temp is your freezer?

2 hours and you got cottonseed oil with alcohol in it to solidify?
HOLY SHIT!
Without alcohol it wouldnt freeze untill it was -15c
Water doesnt even freeze that fast.
must be magic

Even even then.........
Before an oil will solidify it will become milky.
This is called a cloud point.

Unless you live in the arctic circle I doubt this but who knows.
I do know what happened with mine.

Whats funny about the whole thing you might ask?
BKNOXX has some naps GP cyp as well.....same lot numbers.
He had been asking us why nothing was happening to him on his first cycle at 500mg weekly and why his leg was swollen to the knee after injection.

THis was well before this thread existed.

THe other thing?.....he put his in the freezer.....not 2 hours...over night.
Looks exactly the same as when it went in..

Sorry bro...but of course a napsrep is gonna say everything went well.
So far for everyone else..it hasnt.

My asia pharma stuff didnt even need to go in a freezer...the shit crashed on the counter.

I am trying to reason with you here.
But i should have not posted results without place any evidence in.
I will upload picture's for you tonight.

Was more than 2 hours maybe 3.

Everything froze solid.
When i post pictures you will see it just one big block of ice inside the vials.
Both GP and AP along with the other stuff WP gave me.

No point in trying to argue my case with no evidence so will leave this here until i have pictures.


brundel please understand that i may carry the Naps banner does not mean i will defend them when they are sending ME bunk gear and people i recommend shoddy products.


Would you prefer a video or pictures ?
I am not bothered either way.
I understand you are pissed off and so would i be if i find out both products i have been using are junk.


The boloject has frozen solid now.
Just waiting on the AP and GP
 
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Ill state again that my intention is and never has been to fight or argue.
Nor has it been to make anyone look bad.
I tried from the very beginning to prevent this but there is really no going back now because my hand was forced.
Nor do I have anything against you or gxr.
Dont take it the wrong way.

Its also important to recognize something.
A company like naps will not knowingly send bad stuff to mods, forum leaders or board reps....They know better.
This ensures there are people with some influence saying the stuff is good....
I fully trust yours is.

Its mine
BKNOXX
and everyone else who orders from them whos is in question.

Its weird the bold froze first...its liquid at room temp with no solvents or oil.
 
Notice how on the vial I get via prescription that it tells you cypionate often crashes under 68 degrees!
Dont you think its odd that it wont crash all night at 10 degrees?
2011-02-09105259.jpg
 
Please don't tell anyone the gear/test is fake because it costs $36 per bottle and not $100. It costs 3 dollars to manufacture a bottle of test with the box. Why should we sell it for $100 when we get more business selling it at $36 and making 1000% profit with each sale. Don't you remember the test e bottle costed $20 before the ORD? As an user with decades of experience you can't know this fact. How do you think the Organon Sustanon may cost 0.85 in Pakistan pharmacies? What about Test E from Aburaihan at $0,6 per amp direct from the manufacturer? And if you need boxes for GP you should just leave a comment with your order and we will ship them. None of the GP distributors is shipping with boxes nowadays because GP is not making them anymore. We still have some left.

We had a serious problem with GP Cyp crystallization in 2009 and 2010 when the cold weather started. You can read/ask about it at OLM there are threads about it. This season GP added more BA and BB into the product to keep it stable. The GP test cyp was tested at the Swiss lab and came overdosed. This test as well as many others were done by Ronny Tober and he can confirm this fact. We had Masteron tested at Willian L.'s book, it came out 120mg. There is no sense in faking the product if you want to stay in business. On the contrary, the labs are overdosing their products. So is GP. The test is always overdosed. Don't ask me where do I know this from.

This is nothing but bashing a competitor. And by the way it's done I can guess who it is.
 
Guys when stuff crashes, does it go back to normal if you heat it a bit?
 
Notice how on the vial I get via prescription that it tells you cypionate often crashes under 68 degrees!
Dont you think its odd that it wont crash all night at 10 degrees?
2011-02-09105259.jpg


That looks like a pretty low amount of BA. My guess is, a lower BA will crash sooner. Is that less than 1%?

What is the BA % of the Naps?
 
Yah looks like .5%
200mg test
9mg BA
Weird measurements.

The other stuff I have Im pretty sure is 2% though and it crashed siting right next to these ones.

The Naps stuff didnt crash in a freezer.
BXNOXX left it in overnight....frozen solid...I wouldnt expect that...hormone falling out of solution? I would expect that even overnight in a fridge...even at 5% ba
 
Guys when stuff crashes, does it go back to normal if you heat it a bit?

Yah.
Just run the vial under hot water in the sink and itll fall right back into solution.
And itll be nice and warm for injection.
 
Just checked them.

Been in there for 2 hours maximum setting on freezer.

WP stuff has frozen solid
Same with the GP gear.

Some oil still floating around the vials but huge big white cluster frozen in the middle.
That should have well and truly crashed both gears.

I just hope that the experiment comes out with some good results for both parties.
Frozen all my gear !


Did the cluster look kinda like crystals? If so that sounds like it crashed to me.
 
Please don't tell anyone the gear/test is fake because it costs $36 per bottle and not $100. It costs 3 dollars to manufacture a bottle of test with the box. I know...cheap right? Too bad I didnt even get a cheap ass box. I Why should we sell it for $100 when we get more business selling it at $36 and making 1000% profit with each sale. Don't you remember the test e bottle costed $20 before the ORD? As an user with decades of experience you can't know this fact. How do you think the Organon Sustanon may cost 0.85 in Pakistan pharmacies? What about Test E from Aburaihan at $0,6 per amp direct from the manufacturer? And if you need boxes for GP you should just leave a comment with your order and we will ship them. None of the GP distributors is shipping with boxes nowadays because GP is not making them anymore. We still have some left.

We had a serious problem with GP Cyp crystallization in 2009 and 2010 when the cold weather started. You can read/ask about it at OLM there are threads about it. This season GP added more BA and BB into the product to keep it stable. The GP test cyp was tested at the Swiss lab and came overdosed. This test as well as many others were done by Ronny Tober and he can confirm this fact. We had Masteron tested at Willian L.'s book, it came out 120mg. There is no sense in faking the product if you want to stay in business. On the contrary, the labs are overdosing their products. So is GP. The test is always overdosed. Don't ask me where do I know this from.

This is nothing but bashing a competitor. And by the way it's done I can guess who it is.

Im not trying to bash at all.
If you go back in the beginning of this thread and read...I tried to keep your name out of it but someone decided to try to call me a liar and push the issue.
Im not a competitor. Period.
Im also not a normal consumer though.
If it makes you feel any better most of the online sources out there send people fake gear....somewhere along the line of 80%
But you already know this......
Gp might be overdosing gear. Some tests by independent labs might confirm this claim.
But the stuff I got...was not overdosed. Or dosed for that matter.
Perhaps in the future when a customer sends messages telling you they have a shitload of bunk gear they got from you you will respond to them.
If your concerned with keeping customers you would want them to be happy right? Instead You ignore them?
Or how about now....I am publicly stating that I have gear..from Naps...its fake. Im certain of it...but you choose to say Im lying and Im just a competitor bashing Naps...
Neither is true. So what you do is up to you...
Either way I can tell you one thing for certain.....it would have been better of leaving well enough alone on this one.
 
Did the cluster look kinda like crystals? If so that sounds like it crashed to me.

It sure could be.
Hes gonna post some pics so we can look at it.
Hopefully...it has crashed....




Still doesnt change the fact that mine doesnt.
Hes a rep....I cant imagine them sending him bunk gear right?
 
Well, I would prefer to take the position that a mistake happened. Everyone has made mistakes so I don't want to imply anything malicious. I have heard a ton of good feedback on Naps but at the same time I believe you. Is it possible a batch got messed up? Absolutely, but that doesn't mean anything more than a mistake to me.
 
Well, I would prefer to take the position that a mistake happened. Everyone has made mistakes so I don't want to imply anything malicious. I have heard a ton of good feedback on Naps but at the same time I believe you. Is it possible a batch got messed up? Absolutely, but that doesn't mean anything more than a mistake to me.

People make mistakes. It happens.
 
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