^could be this, or it's bunk gear, hard to say, if its that bad you should either cut way back or stop all together IMO!
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Redness and swelling 3 days after injection
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^could be this, or it's bunk gear, hard to say, if its that bad you should either cut way back or stop all together IMO!
I think if I was in your shoes I would cut back to 300mg's a week!
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I agree with this. It could be the BA content or the gear itself. I try not to use anything higher than 250mg/ml because any higher it is more likely to fall out of the oily solution sooner than it should. I am thinking this could be the case with you. Once injected the oil is dispersing and leaving some extra hormone behind. This would cause the hormone to crystalize in the muscle causing irritation and swelling. It could be many things I would contact your sponser and let them know what is happening tell them that you can't use it and see what they will do. Maybe it is common with that substance. They may give you a credit or something. I would stop using it if this continues though. Try something more commonly used and trusted.
^Good advice, I think if you was to do a Test E or Cyp cycle you would love the results, I know I am!
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Yes test cyp and enanthate are better choices for a first cycle or any cylce anyway because they require only two injections a week compared to sust you should use min. of 3. The blood levels are much more stable and you are less likely to experience test flu from the small esters in sust.
You will make the same gains if not better IMO.
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i agree great advice
malfeasance
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The leg workout must have aggravated it. The butt cheek is now swollen beyond the way it was yesterday, spreading around the hip and extending partway down the side of the thigh (so far that my hand cannot cover it all on the hip area and protruding almost an inch. There is an indentation on my butt cheek where the swelling went down the back of my leg in two places but missed the area of the indentation. It looks freakish.Leg workout - many of the exercises were not affected, but squats, during warm ups, with 185, felt like something was tearing in that swollen butt cheek when squatting only about halfway down, certainly not normal, so I did not do squats today.
I did the rest of my leg workout, even the squat press machine, but I feel "off." Not terrible, not sick, just a little off - hard to describe. I definitely felt better working out naturally more than a week ago. I feel like I am really having to force myself, even after I delayed yesterday's leg workout until today and just rested yesterday.
Sust, 300 mg/ml, (600/wk)
D-bol, 30 ed
Apparently that tearing feeling doing squats or the leg workout itself was too much. Either way, this is the most abnormal looking elephantitus thing I have ever seen on myself.
I am not going to risk injecting again by trying to reduce the dose or cutting it in half and doing it four times weekly. I am going to stop injecting this. I should not have done the third pin this morning, knowing the first two caused swelling, but I kept thinking my body might get used to whatever was causing the irritation. Cold turkey - right now. I'll deal with the third pin swelling when and if it comes.
My entire cycle consisted of three injections of 300 mg each over seven days, and 30 mg D-bol daily - any need for PCT if I stop cold turkey today? I have Clomid and Nolva, for a full cycle PCT. Necessary for this baby 7 day cycle?
How long should I wait after my lengthy 7 day cycle (chuckle) before trying regular old test cyp (sticking to regular dosage of 200 mg / ml this time, for 500-600 mg a week)?
Dude, wow just wow, you have to be shooting something terribad! So sorry to hear this, and yes I agree with you 100%, STOP NOW!
Get your health back in a few days and start using the Cyp, it shouldn't do this at all, if you never used before start low and increase as needed. Maybe start with 200mg-300mg a week for 4 to 6 weeks, then go to 400-600mg a week for 4 to 6 weeks! You will love the gains from it, as I am now!
When I leveled out from 600mg a week I went to 750mg a week!
I think the Brand of gear should be told... regardless of sponsorship
Mal,
You can try to recover completely and get your ducks in a row for the next cycle or you can run your Dbol until you get some more gear and continue mission...
Mal,
You can try to recover completely and get your ducks in a row for the next cycle or you can run your Dbol until you get some more gear and continue mission...
As far as this goes, spotinjections.com has it in the upper right, that's where I do mine with no pain, you do inside left?
No, outside top, right where the arrow is!
Oh gotcha! I mis-read the pic, I was like what the fuck I've never heard of inside left haha.
malfeasance
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It is not just the sponsorship that caused me not to name them - it is the fact that I have heard nothing bad about the quality of the gear provided by the sponsor, and the problem is likely just my body's particular reaction to this high dosage solution of sust (almost like an allergic reaction). I am not sure it is fair to blame the sponsor.
By the way, the sponsor replied saying basically it will go away in a few days.
Not going to inject this again. I'll try cyp once I can get it.
2-3 days is probably not long enough to show major signs of a bacterial infection. Any puffyness/redness now is more than likely a reaction to the solvents. If youre running a temp or the swelling continues, go to the doc.
malfeasance
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It does suck to waste time and money, though.
malfeasance
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I do not think it is an infection. Like I said, the swelling from the first injection is entirely gone now. I am sure my body had some kind of reaction to an ingredient(s) in the solution.
I've read on this site about people heating up the pin with a blow dryer or running hot water on the vial. What i've done is use one specific pin to draw out the gear then put on a fresh pin to use on myself. Before putting on the new pin to the syringe, put the syringe( W/ OUT the pin) in the microwave for 25 seconds. This works amazing and you should not feel any pain post pin.
malfeasance
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It hurts, a little swelling, but it has been only one day. If the prior two pins are any indication, the major swelling does not come on until days 3-4, so we are still really early yet.
malfeasance
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Finally found a way to take a G-rated pic to show some of the swelling. Posting as soon as I can get technology to cooperate.
malfeasance
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I think this will work. This is a view from the side, hip and upper thigh, hiding my massive genitalia off-picture behind the wall so as not to frighten or intimidate anybody! LOL! Butt at the top, leg to the bottom, obviously. Note the shadow showing how far the swelling spread from the butt cheek to the hip and down the thigh. Also note redness on butt cheek (much redder in person than shows on picture, especially when comparing to other cheek). You can se a definite diagonal line at the top where the red skin turns to normal white skin. Note complete lack of normal indentation in butt cheek. Injection was in proper location, so this gives you an idea of how far the swelling spread from the butt cheek at first, then over to the hip, then down the side of the leg.
Also, keep in mind that this picture was taken last night, so this is not the swelling at its worst. It has actually subsided some. I took Benadryl, which seems to be helping.
The fact that it is subsiding at all means that it is probably not an infection, although I do not have a medical degree. Maybe it will clear up entirely within a week, like the first injection's swelling did. We'll know in a couple of days.
Also, keep in mind that this picture was taken last night, so this is not the swelling at its worst. It has actually subsided some. I took Benadryl, which seems to be helping.
The fact that it is subsiding at all means that it is probably not an infection, although I do not have a medical degree. Maybe it will clear up entirely within a week, like the first injection's swelling did. We'll know in a couple of days.
Can't see pic try tinypic.
I myself have a fucked up shot just now.
Thigh is completely fucked.
Injected 3.5ml into the middle of quad.
2 hours later did some squats, felt a pop in my leg then extreme pain all over.
Now the top of my knee is slightly swollen and extremely tender.
I can't place any weight on that leg or it goes into a painful spasm.
Started to get better but still know how you feel,....kind of.
That was Monday.
I myself have a fucked up shot just now.
Thigh is completely fucked.
Injected 3.5ml into the middle of quad.
2 hours later did some squats, felt a pop in my leg then extreme pain all over.
Now the top of my knee is slightly swollen and extremely tender.
I can't place any weight on that leg or it goes into a painful spasm.
Started to get better but still know how you feel,....kind of.
That was Monday.
malfeasance
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Grrr! The hosting service removed it - I guess because it showed "nudity." It was nothing a PG rated movie would not show, not even PG-13.
It will have to wait until I get home in the evening to try and repost it another way. Can I attach it here somehow without hosting it online anywhere?
malfeasance
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3.5 ml? Wow!
While squats may have aggravated mine, remember that the first shot caused swelling, too, even if not as severe, with no squat causing abnormal, tearing pain.
Sorry to hear about this, and I hope you are ok.
My second round of swelling is starting to slowly subside. At the same time, I noticed the area of the thigh injection (third pin) is a little larger this morning. If it balloons, I will just tell people I have been doing a lot of one legged leg extensions! LOL!
Was 2.5ml.
Leg is ok today.
Was really fucking painful when it first happened.
Walking and putting a hot water bottle on it has helped a lot,
Got another one tomorrow going to split it up.
1.5ml in quad
1ml in chest.
Hopefully it will be ok lol
Leg is ok today.
Was really fucking painful when it first happened.
Walking and putting a hot water bottle on it has helped a lot,
Got another one tomorrow going to split it up.
1.5ml in quad
1ml in chest.
Hopefully it will be ok lol
Some guys have bad reactions to prop, its pretty common.
malfeasance
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Now is that nasty, or what? This was the day that the swelling started to subside. It was worse the day before.
malfeasance
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Repeat description, so you know what you are seeing.
I think this will work. This is a view from the side, hip and upper thigh, hiding my massive genitalia off-picture behind the wall so as not to frighten or intimidate anybody! LOL! Butt at the top, leg to the bottom, obviously. Note the shadow showing how far the swelling spread from the butt cheek to the hip and down the thigh. Also note redness on butt cheek (much redder in person than shows on picture, especially when comparing to other cheek). You can se a definite diagonal line at the top where the red skin turns to normal white skin. Note complete lack of normal indentation in butt cheek. Injection was in proper location, so this gives you an idea of how far the swelling spread from the butt cheek at first, then over to the hip, then down the side of the leg.
Also, keep in mind that this picture was taken last night, so this is not the swelling at its worst. It has actually subsided some. I took Benadryl, which seems to be helping.
The fact that it is subsiding at all means that it is probably not an infection, although I do not have a medical degree. Maybe it will clear up entirely within a week, like the first injection's swelling did. We'll know in a couple of days.
Test enanthate, makes me swell and turn red. I have no idea as of why. Everytime Ive ever tried to run it, the same thing, My buddie has done shots from the same vial, well 3 different vials and hes good to go. For some reason my body dosent like it. What is that about????? humangrade, not bathtub mixture either????
