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[Aaron S.]

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Lookin Jacked aaron. Dont give me that "im retaining water" shit!!! LOL

Thanks man, i'm not holding water any more, i was told that drinking more water would reduce water retention and it seems to be working pretty well.

 

[cutright]

That does seem to be true drink more and your body let's all the extra go...good work buddy

 

[Fech89]

Can you use the same conversion method used for test enanthate for making nandrolone deconate? Or is there a different method.

 

[yerg]

Can you use the same conversion method used for test enanthate for making nandrolone deconate? Or is there a different method.

Yes it will work. BUT with deca i believe that you wont need as much BA. I will check and get back to ya...... unless brundels on now. he would know.... give me a minute or so.

 

[yerg]

5% BA and 5% BB for deca

 

[Fech89]

Yes it will work. BUT with deca i believe that you wont need as much BA. I will check and get back to ya...... unless brundels on now. he would know.... give me a minute or so.

Thanks for the info. Was lookin and never got much of a clear answer until now.

 

[keith1569]

For deca 2.5%ba and 10%BB. Never had any issues holding at 300mg/ml
5% ba is pretty high, could cause u some pain

 

[yerg]

For deca 2.5%ba and 10%BB. Never had any issues holding at 300mg/ml
5% ba is pretty high, could cause u some pain

Yep im a dumbass. 2.5% ba is what is recomended now. I was looking at an old recipe........
5% willl work fine. but like kieth said you can get away with 2.5%

 

[keith1569]

ya i have heard of people doing 5% but ouch haha

 

[cutright]

BA isn't what causes a painful injection shoot 1/2 cc of straight BA, tomorrow you will feel nothing a lot of pharm grade uses less than 1% and I've had that shit hurt lol it's all in the breakdown

 

[cutright]

Man I just pushed 100cc of Test E through a whatman...my damn hand is sore lol, nothing beats the millipore with the vacuum pump that's for sure

 

[Aaron S.]

O.K. I think i have made my TNE experience a little easier. With the water base the pins clogged - went from 1.5 inch to 1 inch and still had the problem to some extent. Also i could tell that the mg/cc had variation no matter how well it was shaken. I decided to filter the TNE/PEG 300/Poly-80 into propylene glycol. The cool thing about suspending it in propylene is if i warm it a little the crystals dissolve temporarily. After all the crystals are dissolved i shake it up really well and then draw it. I get an accurate mg/cc and no chance of clogging. Hell i am even able to go with a smaller guage because it's so thin. No more pins getting clogged while i'm trying to inject. (i have had to pull the pin out, change needles out and stick myself again up to three and four times with water based).

 

[Aaron S.]

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Man I just pushed 100cc of Test E through a whatman...my damn hand is sore lol, nothing beats the millipore with the vacuum pump that's for sure

Did you get the Millipore and pump?? I want to get that set up just to have it. I haven't done more than 40mls in a long time so i didn't buy it yet, that thing looks to be a kick ass set up for 250-1000mls!!

 

[cutright]

Did you get the Millipore and pump?? I want to get that set up just to have it. I haven't done more than 40mls in a long time so i didn't buy it yet, that thing looks to be a kick ass set up for 250-1000mls!!

Yea I got it but didn't break it out for this brew, I was only gonna do 50 but decided to bust out 100ml, as you know I love to cook lol

 

[Aaron S.]

BA isn't what causes a painful injection shoot 1/2 cc of straight BA, tomorrow you will feel nothing a lot of pharm grade uses less than 1% and I've had that shit hurt lol it's all in the breakdown

I'll take your word for it that excess BA doesn't cause a painful injections but i'll tell you this, BA is an extremely aggressive solvent. The shit will eat right through plastic. My neighbor is a bodybuilder. He is not informed about the world we live in, but he does his own thing with pellets and is a BioChemist. He works for the University of Florida in medical R&D. He won't touch the stuff, BA i mean, it has uses in the scope of his job, but not the way we use it. I keep my BA at 1% when i'm doing my normal regiment, enough for anti-microbial purposes. Iif more solvent is needed i never add BA, i'll add BB and that's it. I have used Guiaicol, i haven't read anything that bad about it and it's powerful as hell.

 

[cutright]

I use 2% with everything I've never seen BA eat through plastic though lol I'll have to do an experiment now. I was just saying I've had some painful injections that were 1% and no pain with 5% before that's why I love this place there's tons of info

 

[Aaron S.]

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I use 2% with everything I've never seen BA eat through plastic though lol I'll have to do an experiment now. I was just saying I've had some painful injections that were 1% and no pain with 5% before that's why I live this place there's tons of info

oh! i totally agree, no doubt, i have made shit myself that had 1% that hurt like hell.!!

 

[keith1569]

Ya very true the compound itself can def cause more pain. But I think high ba content can cause more pain along with it

Cut- what size filter you use to make the 100ml? I cant seem to get more than 50ml through a .22 syringe filter without dying.

a .45 though no problem with 120ml ha

never had a problem with either, although i do prefer .22 when i have the stericups on hand

 

[Aaron S.]

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Ya very true the compound itself can def cause more pain. But I think high ba content can cause more pain along with it

Cut- what size filter you use to make the 100ml? I cant seem to get more than 50ml through a .22 syringe filter without dying.

a .45 though no problem with 120ml ha

never had a problem with either, although i do prefer .22 when i have the stericups on hand

Keith if you can get 50ml through a .22 your doing the right thing, Cut is probably using a .45 or he used more than one. What's up with the filters Cut?? What size? How many?

 

[Aaron S.]

I can get 100ml through a .45 if i'm doing long esters, if i'm doing my prop, isocap, decanoate, blend i can get like 80ml. I honestly don't use a .22 for anything but bacteriostatic h2o. After i boil some distilled and add 2.5%BA(i know what i said but for winstrol or TNE i use 2.5% BA because it just seems to turn out better) then put it through a .22 if i'm doing 100mls. other than that i use a .45 whatman. I know what everyone has said about certain bacteria getting through a .45 but for me prevention is the key. Everything i use is sterile and none of my powder has exposure to air for longer than the time it takes me to pull the weight out, then i vacuum seal it immediately. Most bacteria that we are concerned with are aerobic and then the B.A. also kills most bacteria.

 

[cutright]

.45 is what I used tonight, the .22 are a monster lol but I got 100ml through one filter. My millipores are .22 that's why I run the vac lol.

 

[keith1569]

ya same ha

 

[yerg]

YEAH 45s all the way.

Aaron..you use 2.5% ba in your bac water???? I use 1%

 

[yerg]

damn cutright your making human grade!!!!!!!! lOl

 

[Aaron S.]

Ohhh .22 with a millipore. That's something entirely different. Is the surface area of the filter really big ??

 

[Aaron S.]

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YEAH 45s all the way.

Aaron..you use 2.5% ba in your bac water???? I use 1%

Yea for some reason when i make a 20 cc/ 1 gram batch of winstrol or TNE the hormone doesn't titrate back into micronized form the same way if i use less than 2%. Now if i'm making B/W for HGH or HCG that's a different story all together and then yes i'll use 1%.

 

[cutright]

Ohhh .22 with a millipore. That's something entirely different. Is the surface area of the filter really big ??

Yes it is

 

[cutright]

damn cutright your making human grade!!!!!!!! lOl

I like to consider it human grade lol

 

[yerg]

Yea for some reason when i make a 20 cc/ 1 gram batch of winstrol or TNE the hormone doesn't titrate back into micronized form the same way if i use less than 2%. Now if i'm making B/W for HGH or HCG that's a different story all together and then yes i'll use 1%.

I see. I thought maybe for peptides or hcg.

 

[UA_Iron]

I can get 100ml through a .45 if i'm doing long esters, if i'm doing my prop, isocap, decanoate, blend i can get like 80ml. I honestly don't use a .22 for anything but bacteriostatic h2o. After i boil some distilled and add 2.5%BA(i know what i said but for winstrol or TNE i use 2.5% BA because it just seems to turn out better) then put it through a .22 if i'm doing 100mls. other than that i use a .45 whatman. I know what everyone has said about certain bacteria getting through a .45 but for me prevention is the key. Everything i use is sterile and none of my powder has exposure to air for longer than the time it takes me to pull the weight out, then i vacuum seal it immediately. Most bacteria that we are concerned with are aerobic and then the B.A. also kills most bacteria.

You have no control over the cleanliness of the powder from where it originated though. If they didnt take the correct precautions then your methodology is bunk.