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recently decided to start my first cycle and a little dispointed at costs...

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save money and make your own STERILE. or buy from a decent board rep.
 
Shop, Homey . Don;t believe the hype, High cost IS NOT a determine'n factor in quality.A lot of times it just means hella mark up and greed.NOBODY SHOPS LIKE THAT IN THE REAL WORLD. Grant makes great box'n gloves and they charge like hell for them, Cleto Reyes makes and excellent glove nice as the grants that offers just as much protection for $100 less a pair. You follow'n me here. I'd approach a sponsor that did'nt rush up on like a pimp look'n for a run away first. lol Look around. Don't get suckered into anythin, it's a buyer's market Homey.

Peace and Love

wait for it, wait for it...................lolol
 
Wow, have prices gone up that bad? I still remember when you could get a 50-60ml "jug" for about $100-150 (yes I know...old!)

Anyways, just read around and review the sponsors you find. If your doing a one product cycle and worried about the cost now, wait until you want to run a 3-4 item "cutting" cycle :geewhiz:
 
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Wow, have prices gone up that bad? I still remember when you could get a 50-60ml "jug" for about $100-150 (yes I know...old!)

Anyways, just read around and review the sponsors you find. If your doing a on product cycle and worried about the cost now, wait until you want to run a 3-4 item "cutting" cycle :geewhiz:
lol No their probably not that bad I'm just being a pain in the ass lol and ya it could be 3 times a much lol
 
Dog, Anabolicminds ain't a bad place. But I can tell u that I learned more in a week here than a year at am. I have never seen some one post here and get bad advice. There r some serious experts here. I have went back to am after being here for a bit n I was shocked on how little the "experts" over there truly know. Try to compare tgb, CT, or heavyiron to ur buddy edwitt/superted or schwellington
 
Dog, Anabolicminds ain't a bad place. But I can tell u that I learned more in a week here than a year at am. I have never seen some one post here and get bad advice. There r some serious experts here. I have went back to am after being here for a bit n I was shocked on how little the "experts" over there truly know. Try to compare tgb, CT, or heavyiron to ur buddy edwitt/superted or schwellington

Amen to that. Ironmag isn't as big as some other boards but i love the vets and mods here. :heartpump Quality over quantity. Plus, big boards are usually flooded newbies who have yet to learn how to search.
 
well there is test for bulk and for cut ... some are slow esters and some are rapid.. plus you need ai and have pct on hand waiting to finish up your cycle. i can go on and on, but let us know when your ready and if your doing the bulk thing or ripping. we will get ya str8 bro!
good luck kido!
 
well there is test for bulk and for cut ... some are slow esters and some are rapid.. plus you need ai and have pct on hand waiting to finish up your cycle. i can go on and on, but let us know when your ready and if your doing the bulk thing or ripping. we will get ya str8 bro!
good luck kido!

If it's his first, idk if he wants to do a prop cycle. Maybe Test E or C just so that way he gets used to pinning?
 
If it's his first, idk if he wants to do a prop cycle. Maybe Test E or C just so that way he gets used to pinning?
Yes sir right on the money nothing to much it will be my first first time so I wanna get used to it and also not go overboard.
 
Price should not be the reason to buy gear from here or there. Just cause it's more expensive doesn't mean it's better.


Look at reviews from users, quality of products, ease of ordering, speed of delivery. Where you live....:hmmm: Save yourself alot of trouble and do alot of research ahead of time.
 
Wow, have prices gone up that bad? I still remember when you could get a 50-60ml "jug" for about $100-150 (yes I know...old!)

Anyways, just read around and review the sponsors you find. If your doing a one product cycle and worried about the cost now, wait until you want to run a 3-4 item "cutting" cycle :geewhiz:
I'm with you on that one. when a jug was 60 bux. I feel old now.
 
Bro, cheap aint good and good aint cheap

If he's willing to "brew", then maybe it would be cheaper. In regards to quality from sources, your right. That's why he or anyone for that matter, needs to read the reviews of other members before dropping cash and injecting "junk".
 
If he's willing to "brew", then maybe it would be cheaper. In regards to quality from sources, your right. That's why he or anyone for that matter, needs to read the reviews of other members before dropping cash and injecting "junk".
I Don't have enough faith in myelf "brew" anything lol, I'll definitely will be doing check ups on reviews and more research i have plenty of time before I start I'm in no rush here and thanks for everyone suggestions its much appreciated =)
 
Bro, cheap aint good and good aint cheap

so if a UG lab was somewhat inexpensive then a re-seller jacked up the price, its basically the same product. just gotta do your research before you buy
 
Bro, cheap aint good and good aint cheap

Kinda disagree, the gear I'm using now was pretty cheap and it's damn good. A couple lab tests (blood and gc/ms) confirmed it's properly dosed. So as long as you check out their feedback you can get a great deal and still not get ripped off. Just my .02
 
I was actually pretty impressed with how affordable a cycle can be. Its just all the extra supplements and food that adds up like crazy.
 
I was actually pretty impressed with how affordable a cycle can be. Its just all the extra supplements and food that adds up like crazy.

That was it I'm talking to total cost of everything not just the cycle itself that isn't 2 bad and well worth the gains from what I'm reading if done properly.
 
I ran into the cost situation when I first started too.
Couple of things to consider:
1) The people I got advise from wanted to sell me way to much gear for a beginners use.
2) the people I got advise from wanted to sell me their gear at very inflated prices.

Solutions:
1) check Heavyirons 1st cycle stickie to get only what you need.
2) check all board sponsors, check their reviews and go from there comparing quality vs cost.
 
Muscle Gelz Transdermals
IronMag Labs Prohormones
I ran into the cost situation when I first started too.
Couple of things to consider:
1) The people I got advise from wanted to sell me way to much gear for a beginners use.
2) the people I got advise from wanted to sell me their gear at very inflated prices.

Solutions:
1) check Heavyirons 1st cycle stickie to get only what you need.
2) check all board sponsors, check their reviews and go from there comparing quality vs cost.
Cool thanks man I'll give the 1st cycle stickie a look and I'm finally starting my new job so ill have some $ coming in so I'll start checking up on reviews and stuff as well. once i have an idea of what I'll be using I will be asking more questions and advice from everyone on here everyone seems very knowledgeable and happy to help so thank you everyone. =)
 
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