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Dozens of Atlanta educators falsified tests, state report confirms

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Dozens of Atlanta educators falsified tests, state report confirms

By the CNN Wire Staff
UPDATED: 05:45 PM EDT 07.05.11

Dozens of Atlanta public school educators falsified standardized tests or failed to address such misconduct in their schools, Gov. Nathan Deal said Tuesday in unveiling the results of a state investigation that confirmed widespread cheating in the city schools dating as far back as 2001.

Some of the cheating could result in criminal charges, Deal said.

"I think the overall conclusion was that testing and results and targets being reached became more important than actual learning for children," Deal said. "And when reaching targets became the goal, it was a goal that was pursued with no excuses."

Falsifying test results made the schools appear to be performing better than they really were. But in the process, students were deprived of critical remedial education and taxpayers were cheated, as well, Deal said.

Investigators said 178 teachers and principals working at 44 schools were involved. The educators, including 38 principals, were either directly involved in erasing wrong answers on a key standardized test or they knew -- or should have known -- what was going on, according to Deal's office.

Deal's office said 82 of the educators acknowledged involvement, according to the report. Six principals declined to answer investigators' questions and invoked the Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination, Deal said.

Whether to bring criminal charges will be up to prosecutors, Deal said.

Georgia State School Superintendent Dr. John Barge and Kathleen Mathers, executive director of the governor's Office of Student Achievement, released a joint statement Tuesday condemning "unethical behavior."

"Some educators, including those in leadership positions, chose their own interests over helping students entrusted to their care," the statement said.

"While this story has dominated the headlines over the last couple of years, it is important to remember that the vast majority of the educators in Georgia are ethically sound and work diligently with the best interests of their students in mind."

The investigation's findings have been forwarded to the state teacher licensing board, Deal said. That agency could take disciplinary action against the educators involved.

Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed, who was briefed on the report, said the investigation "confirms our worst fears."

"There is no doubt that systemic cheating occurred on a widespread basis in the school system," Reed said in a statement. "Further, there is no question that a complete failure of leadership in the Atlanta Public School system hurt thousands of children who were promoted to the next grade without meeting basic academic standards.

"The cheating was brought to light after marked improvements in the district's performance on the 2009 statewide Criterion-Referenced Competency test (CRCT) revealed a pattern of incorrect test answers being erased and replaced with correct answers.

Investigators compared the results with test results from other Georgia schools and found that such patterns did not occur normally, Deal said.

That the district's CRCT results fell in 2010 further confirmed the findings, according to the report.

A spokesman for Atlanta Public Schools said district officials would have no immediate comment.

The cheating accompanied a "culture of fear, intimidation and retaliation" within the district, according to a summary of the report released by Deal's office. The report also found a "major failure of leadership" within the district.

Beverly Hall, who was superintendent of the district when the cheating scandal surfaced, has since resigned.

Hall won accolades for the district's apparent successes during her tenure, and she was named superintendent of the year by the American Association of School Administrators in 2009.

Neither Hall nor her attorney, Richard Deane, has seen or been briefed on the report, Deane said Tuesday.

The full text of the report was not released. Deal said it was being withheld pending consultation with the state attorney general's office.

From CNN.com
 
This should be the big story of the day. Not one woman's legal issues.
 
This should be the big story of the day. Not one woman's legal issues.

You mean the principal in the other thread? I agree.

Just saw her videos and was interested in the drama between the interviewer and that administrator.

On a bodybuilding or transformation level, if you Google her name for images you'll see a massive change in her appearance.

Not sure if she piled on the weight or stripped it off, but it looks like at least a 100-pound difference, easily.

Re the testing and cheating on those tests, it seems to me that the important part of school would be to expose children to all areas of life and, yes, to drill basic skills.

Not sure the importance of a test score versus having familiarity with an area of study. So much emphasis is placed on that all-important test score, though. Not sure children benefit from that intense focus.
 
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one of many problems being caused by bogus standardized testing practices in the US.
 
Just one of hundreds of reasons why the Fortune 500 have been bailing on the City of ATL over the last 10 years. I hope the governor hangs these fuckers.

Not to mention that Atlanta has over twice the crime of Los Angeles.
 
Not good at all, it just seems to be getting worse in the schools these days.
 
cheating by educators are also happening in other states too, Indiana, Massachusetts, Nevada, Virginia etc. In some states a teacher's tenure is tied to test results so this is going to get worse. That means teachers in upper class, high income districts will test better than those who teach in low income, inner city and no one will be left teaching the impoverished neighborhoods. the same thing happens with pay for performance for doctors, docs who treat fat asses subsisting on porkgrinds and cigarette smoking in the mountain red necks or inner city hoodlums will be paid far less than those treating stepford wives in north buckhead, atlanta. There is going to be more of a shortage of doctors treating hillbillies in rural areas and innercity folks. This makes me feel good I've got my daughter in private school but then I remember that her public educated collegues will be her future electrician who may burn down her house down not knowing basic ohm's law or future artillary army gunners who still have to use newtonian physics to figure out basic projectory pathways and they are going to start missing our country's enemy targets........
 
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This makes me feel good I've got my daughter in private school but then I remember that her public educated collegues will be her future electrician who may burn down her house down not knowing basic ohm's law or future artillary army gunners who still have to use newtonian physics to figure out basic projectory pathways and they are going to start missing our country's enemy targets........

that's funny that you mentioned that. I did QA at a low voltage company years ago and I was the only person there that even knew what ohm's law was. the guy that took the test to get the C2 license worked in an office in Cali, unfortunately electricians like that are already out there.
 
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What's scarey is that "flunkies" think they can join the military and so many of them cant pass the physical or score above "pathetic" on the ASVAB. This is why I am not libertarian in my beliefs with schooling, these "bottom" of the educational barrel may be one day protecting us from enemy fire or wiring our scientific laboratories. Something else needs to be done other than teaching to the test. The first is giving power back to teachers ,not administrators. Not that there aren't flaws with the asians adeptness at teaching to the test ( without necessarily creating "understanding") but the chinese teachers can hit you with a switch if you lie, cheat, steal, beat up on other kids, they can leave you behind so that you are the only 5 footer in kindergarten, they don't take crap from overprotective, helicopter parents etc.
 
one of many problems being caused by bogus standardized testing practices in the US.

Yes, standardized testing can cause these problems and mal-practices.

Were these state tests?

Federal tests related to the NCLB Act?
 
I think the testing is nation wide and probably world wide. I went to school in Georgia and can remember 1 or 2 teachers that cared, and also remember students that were dumb/ignorant as a rock ,didn't want to learn what was being taught and didn't. I think everyone has to be tested even my home-schooled daughter has to take basically the same tests.Without it, how would you gauge the intelligence of the child and base a direction in life to pursue? I have a lot of mixed feelings on this one...but in the end "they are Government run schools" ! Can you name anything that our government is in control of that Accels?

sp1q
 
Yes, standardized testing can cause these problems and mal-practices.

Were these state tests?

Federal tests related to the NCLB Act?

Criterion-Referenced Competency Tests (CRCT) What is the purpose of the CRCT?

The CRCT is designed to measure how well students acquire the skills and knowledge described in the Georgia Performance Standards (GPS). The assessments yield information on academic achievement at the student, class, school, system, and state levels. This information is used to diagnose individual student strengths and weaknesses as related to the instruction of the GPS, and to gauge the quality of education throughout Georgia.

What content areas and grade levels are tested?

Georgia law, as amended by the A+ Education Reform Act of 2000, requires that all students in grades one through eight take the CRCT in the content areas of reading, English/language arts, and mathematics. Students in grades three through eight are also assessed in science and social studies. The CRCT only assesses the content standards outlined in the GPS.

Due to budget constraints, the CRCT will not be administered in grades one and two in spring 2011.


When was the CRCT implemented?

The CRCT was implemented in spring 2000. That year, summative, end-of-year assessments in reading, English/language arts, and mathematics were administered in grades four, six, and eight. Assessments in science and social studies (grades three through eight) were administered for the first time in spring 2002. Additionally, assessments in reading, English/language arts, and mathematics were administered in grades one, two, three, five, and seven in spring 2002.

How is content tested?

Currently, the mandated end-of-year assessments contain selected-response items only; however, a small number of constructed-response items may be included in subsequent years.

How does the CRCT differ from a norm-referenced test (NRT)?

Criterion-referenced tests, such as the CRCT, are designed to measure how well students acquire, learn, and accomplish the knowledge and skills set forth in a specific curriculum or unit of instruction. The CRCT, therefore, is specifically intended to test Georgia's performance/content standards outlined in the GPS. Norm-referenced tests (NRT), such as the Iowa Tests of Basic Skills (ITBS), measure instructional standards commonly taught throughout the entire United States of America. Additionally, NRTs highlight differences between and among students across an achievement continuum.

Are state, system, and school disaggregated reports of CRCT results provided?

Yes. The contractor provides paper and electronic disaggregated reports at the state, system, and school levels. These reports provide student performance information for the following categories: All Students, All Regular Program Students (subcategories include Section 504, Limited English Proficient, and All Others), All Special Education Students (subcategories include primary classification/disability - i.e., visual impairment, learning disabilities, etc.), Gender, and Race/Ethnicity. These data are reported for grades one through eight in reading, English/language arts, and mathematics, and grades three through eight in science and social studies.

More @ Georgia Department of Education - Assessment: Criterion-Referenced Competency Tests
 
This is exactly the same shit that has brought the world to a recession. Its better to APPEAR better/better off than you actually are, fucking pathetic. Knowledge is power, and anyone who deprives another of that power is simply selfish.
 
Can you name anything that our government is in control of that Accels?
sp1q

it has nothing to do with the function of government per say, bureaucracy's by nature are not very efficient but than can be made to be. anyone that has been in the military will tell you this as it operates the same way, it's the nature of only having limited knowledge and function of a particular process.

the US government's education system has a specific agenda and it is not in the benefit of US citizens. China invested almost 2T dollars towards it's education system in 2009 and the US is reducing funding from the university level on down. Only the ivy league schools in the US haven't had to reduce funding.

PISA 2009 Results:
Executive Summary
http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/34/60/46619703.pdf
 
China invested almost 2T dollars towards its education system in 2009 and the US is reducing funding from the university level on down.

I keep hearing that you can't solve education's problems by throwing money at it, however I suspect I could do a LOT more in my classroom with some extra cash to spend on additional art supplies.
 
I keep hearing that you can't solve education's problems by throwing money at it, however I suspect I could do a LOT more in my classroom with some extra cash to spend on additional art supplies.

China is not a OECD member so that needs to be taken into account as they do not follow the neo-liberal model. In the US public schools are funded by various taxes collected by the state where in China the gov directly funds public education.

If you check the reports from the OECD on education they show a direct correlation with the income of the parents their scholastic achievement and the scholastic achievement of the child. Almost 50% of the US is making 1980 wages or less when adjusted for inflation, you can fill in the blanks from there.
 
Not to mention that Atlanta has over twice the crime of Los Angeles.


ATL has the most corrupt black racist politicians known to modern man. Couple that with horrific traffic, 9 months of smog, a mismanaged airport, inept and crooked cops, lack of trees due to a lack of zoning and the list just goes on and on.....

The only part of ATL that has any long term hope from a corporate perspective is Alpharetta and the northern GA400 corridor.
 
ATL has the most corrupt black racist politicians known to modern man. Couple that with horrific traffic, 9 months of smog, a mismanaged airport, inept and crooked cops, lack of trees due to a lack of zoning and the list just goes on and on.....

The only part of ATL that has any long term hope from a corporate perspective is Alpharetta and the northern GA400 corridor.

its got great mountain biking though and a 5th ranked engineering school (georgia tech ranks above cal tech) and the CDC, EMory etc. it also has its share of black successes that hopefully will affect the new generation from the phd pharmacist next door who sent eight kids to college who are now engineers, doctors, owners of businesses etc, to the mandarin speaking textile owner down the street and my two partners with mdphds and accolades that beat any white doctors. Half my street are black success stories However, they also send their kids to private school so they may not be able to influence the very ones that need them as role models back in the public shchools...It will take a few generations especially since my black male partner still gets harassed at the hospital when he pops in at two am to check up on sick ICU patients. You would think by now they would recognize him as a doctor after seven years. THe one time he didnt get harassed he just out of a joke told them he was the night janitor and they left him alone... good thing he has a sense of humor.
 
Curt,

Thanks for the answer on the CRT test.

And also, I assumed this is a majority black school district, being in Atlanta.

Seems like a real hell-hole, but I must admit, I've not been there, only to other parts of Georgia.
 
its got great mountain biking though and a 5th ranked engineering school (georgia tech ranks above cal tech) and the CDC, EMory etc. it also has its share of black successes that hopefully will affect the new generation from the phd pharmacist next door who sent eight kids to college who are now engineers, doctors, owners of businesses etc, to the mandarin speaking textile owner down the street and my two partners with mdphds and accolades that beat any white doctors. Half my street are black success stories However, they also send their kids to private school so they may not be able to influence the very ones that need them as role models back in the public shchools...It will take a few generations especially since my black male partner still gets harassed at the hospital when he pops in at two am to check up on sick ICU patients. You would think by now they would recognize him as a doctor after seven years. THe one time he didnt get harassed he just out of a joke told them he was the night janitor and they left him alone... good thing he has a sense of humor.


Be careful mountain biking around GT because as you know that's a great place to get robbed or killed.

And you're correct, anyone who has a brain and the means sends their kids to private particularity if they live inside I-285.
 
Be careful mountain biking around GT because as you know that's a great place to get robbed or killed.

And you're correct, anyone who has a brain and the means sends their kids to private particularity if they live inside I-285.

I usually mountain bike up in north georgia in the appalachians, I also live 10 minutes from the international horse park where they held the olympic mountain bike venue. unfortunately, the average private school here is now 15-20 grand a year. I feel sorry for those who have 3 or more kids in their family....
 
ATL has the most corrupt black racist politicians known to modern man. Couple that with horrific traffic, 9 months of smog, a mismanaged airport, inept and crooked cops, lack of trees due to a lack of zoning and the list just goes on and on.....

Oh, come now. Atlanta is clearly a product of the white man keeping the black man down.
 
I usually mountain bike up in north georgia in the appalachians, I also live 10 minutes from the international horse park where they held the olympic mountain bike venue. unfortunately, the average private school here is now 15-20 grand a year. I feel sorry for those who have 3 or more kids in their family....


I have a home in McDonough and manufacturing plant in Blairsville where I stay and work 4 days/wk. Long story....

Private schools in Henry County start at about $8K/yr for a church based school and they are all packed.
 
Oh, come now. Atlanta is clearly a product of the white man keeping the black man down.

:winkfinger:

Hell, ATL has been black owned an operated for decades. Something you might not know about ATL is the reason ATL is so big compared to Birmingham, Jackson and Columbia is ATL was the first big southern city to desegregate, which in turn opened up the flow of countless gov't infrastructure dollars.
 
China is not a OECD member so that needs to be taken into account as they do not follow the neo-liberal model. In the US public schools are funded by various taxes collected by the state where in China the gov directly funds public education.

If you check the reports from the OECD on education they show a direct correlation with the income of the parents their scholastic achievement and the scholastic achievement of the child. Almost 50% of the US is making 1980 wages or less when adjusted for inflation, you can fill in the blanks from there.

Did hear or read an article that drew that same conclusion. If a child has all the gizmos available -- all those learning gadgets that richer kids have at their disposal -- then their learning almost takes care of itself. Children are literally learning sponges. Too many learn nothing because they have nothing. :(
 
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