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booze said:
took me forever. i remember the first 30ml took me 1 hour and it was hard work lol so i would say hour and a half for the 50ml. using a .45.

And Im not sure what you mean by pulling the other one?! i just filtered straight into a vial.

Im never using a standard syringe filter again. I need some info on the hand pumps please. Also will my unfiltered gear that i have left over be fine to filter at a later date? Thanks.
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It's a theory of mine:

You use one syringe to push the oil throught the filter into the vial and in the same time another different syringe for pulling the air inside the vial, creating a vacuum in the vial and facilitating the aspiration of the oil.
 
keith1569 said:
Milipore you just need the hand pump and the milipore. Get some large syringes with a bug guage to suck up the oil to be transferred to your sterile vials.

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Thanks, Ive got a price for the hand pump sorted but im still unclear how everything is connected? The pump is connected to ID Tubing I assume, but what happens from there? Obviously have to draw your unfiltered oil from a beaker somewhere and is expelled somewhere? Where is the filter located? Links would be great. Thanks.
 
brundel said:
Presealed is best. Make sure they are sterile as there are non sterile.

You can purchase a large syringe like 60ml and dispense from that.

Here is what the setup looks like in action. 250ml stericup, tren ace in GSO, handpump, 20ml syringe with 5ml in it to flush out the filter.
You can then attach a septa top and draw from it. If you choose not to use a septa top you must be EXTRA careful and quick when drawing out the finished product. Remember once you open the top its no longer sterile. To keep things safe be sure to have clean hands and extract quickly...best idea is a sterile septa top.

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so looking at this pic, is the unfiltered gear on top and filtered underneath? in between is a millipore filter of some description? Is this them? RLS Filtration Systems - Millipore Stericup Complete Filter Units with Durapore PVDF Membranes

And can you replace the filters easily enough or is the whole unit thrown out after use? Thanks again.
 
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TREMBO said:
It's a theory of mine:

You use one syringe to push the oil throught the filter into the vial and in the same time another different syringe for pulling the air inside the vial, creating a vacuum in the vial and facilitating the aspiration of the oil.
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If you have a sealed sterile vial, all you need to do is "vent" the vial with a needle. Not the entire syringe. That way the air has a place to escape as it's displaced by the oil.

In other words you'll have two needles in the vial at once. The vent, and the one with the syringe and filter that you are filtering through.
 
booze said:
so looking at this pic, is the unfiltered gear on top and filtered underneath? in between is a millipore filter of some description? Is this them? RLS Filtration Systems - Millipore Stericup Complete Filter Units with Durapore PVDF Membranes

And can you replace the filters easily enough or is the whole unit thrown out after use? Thanks again.
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You are correct in your explanation of the operation. Unfiltered up top, the hand pump creates a vacuum im the bottom chamber where it goes through the filter into.

One time use only though. Kinda sucks. Me personally I will never use the caulk gun method with the 60ml syringe again. Far too time consuming. The syringe kept distorting and contorting on me. For small quantities I would probably do the 10ml syringe and needle filter.

By the way, amazon.com has the stericups for a case price. Around $100 for the case. But depending on how much brewing you're going to be doing, it may be worth it.
 
Bigbully100678 said:
You are correct in your explanation of the operation. Unfiltered up top, the hand pump creates a vacuum im the bottom chamber where it goes through the filter into.

One time use only though. Kinda sucks. Me personally I will never use the caulk gun method with the 60ml syringe again. Far too time consuming. The syringe kept distorting and contorting on me. For small quantities I would probably do the 10ml syringe and needle filter.

By the way, amazon.com has the stericups for a case price. Around $100 for the case. But depending on how much brewing you're going to be doing, it may be worth it.
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Thanks for the info. I'm not sure I follow on the syringe part though? Or is that something different?! I'll be doing a fair bit of brewing so I def need a better method. I'm not from usa so amazon not an option sorry.

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If you go the milipour route they are about 10 bucks to filter 150ml. Really that isn't bad compared to buying it premade. If you want cheaper go with a syringe filter. That's 5 bucks. Good luck getting over 100ml through though

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Indeed....too much good info in here. Would suck to have to start all over again. Please guys....dont be asking for sources. If you look hard enough you will find it.
 
So if i am only doing 50-100ml at a time i can get away with using a 20ml syringe and a .22 filter? I dont really mind waiting. How much can i get threw one filter before having to replace it??
 
tyzero89 said:
So if i am only doing 50-100ml at a time i can get away with using a 20ml syringe and a .22 filter? I dont really mind waiting. How much can i get threw one filter before having to replace it??
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I would say go with a 10cc syringe, easier to push. I prefer a 5cc. I have trouble pushing 50ml through a .2 filter, but can get 100ml through a .45 no problem. neather have given me problems
 
so if i were to use a stericup method. I just pour the unfiltered mixture into the top and use a pump to pull the mixture to the bottom. Then once that is done do i just pop the top off and use a 10ml syringe and start filling vials? Is there a way to keep the bottom container from being open for too long. It just seems like you go through all that work to get it filtered only to have to expose it to the elements again.
 
I don't think u can get it perfectly sterile mate. I guess that's why you bake after?

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you got it..thats what i do..except i pull it up in a 20cc syringe..some refilter through a .45 when putting it into vials, but imo it isnt necessary
 
keith1569 said:
I would say go with a 10cc syringe, easier to push. I prefer a 5cc. I have trouble pushing 50ml through a .2 filter, but can get 100ml through a .45 no problem. neather have given me problems
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I have read multiple times that you can't filter out bacteria using a .45 filter. I used a 22 and a caulk gun when I did 200 ml and went through 2 filters, so I second heavyirons reply of 100ml.
 
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Bigbully100678 said:
I have read multiple times that you can't filter out bacteria using a .45 filter. I used a 22 and a caulk gun when I did 200 ml and went through 2 filters, so I second heavyirons reply of 100ml.
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How long it took?
 
booze said:
I don't think u can get it perfectly sterile mate. I guess that's why you bake after?

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A guy I trust autoclaves his viles after brewing using a pressure cooker. I will ask him the method and post it here. The ba in the brew is to help kill any bacteria that did not get filtered out.
 
ya i might just end up using the stericup method. it just seems easier. Hopefully i will be ordering soon!!!
 
if your gonna go with .2 i would do the stericup way..pushing 100ml through a .2 is gonna blow
 
I'm gathering all of my supplies to get ready for my first brewing.

I am still kind of up in the air as to which scale to buy, any recommendations?

I am thinking that a scale that measures to .001g with a max weight of 20g is probably a good starting point.

Any ideas?
 
You can use a septa top to cap the media bottle after filtering with a stericup filter.
It has a silicon stopper similar to a vial making the receiver flask act like a giant vial.
Make sure that 1. it will fit the receiver (probably 45mm) 2. it is sterile or you have the capacity to sterilize it. (autoclave or pressure cooker)
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Benzyl alcohol is not added to sterilize anything or to kill bacteria.
The job of sterilization is left to the filter thats the whole point of STERILE filtering.
Benzyl alcohol is added to KEEP things sterile by making the environment within the vial hostile to potential bacteria or fungi.
 
brundel said:
You can use a septa top to cap the media bottle after filtering with a stericup filter.
It has a silicon stopper similar to a vial making the receiver flask act like a giant vial.
Make sure that 1. it will fit the receiver (probably 45mm) 2. it is sterile or you have the capacity to sterilize it. (autoclave or pressure cooker)
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dropped a media vial on the floor a few months ago and lost 500 ml tren ace :( be careful
 
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