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day 11
Strength is definitely up as is size/fullness
hit 245x4 on seated overhead press pretty easily (going down to chin level)
definitely leaner as well, I expect this to be progressing rapidly as I have cut carbs dramatically and am slowly adding in cardio. will be adding clen for 2 on 2 off cycles when it arrives
only had about 50 grams of carbs pre workout, surprising energy, strength, and pumps in spite of this.
pumps were so intense that my shoulders were literally stinging, I had to bend over and rest my elbows on my knees to give them a break.
good stuff
feeling healthy and strong...and not yellow (knock on wood)
Strength is definitely up as is size/fullness
hit 245x4 on seated overhead press pretty easily (going down to chin level)
definitely leaner as well, I expect this to be progressing rapidly as I have cut carbs dramatically and am slowly adding in cardio. will be adding clen for 2 on 2 off cycles when it arrives
only had about 50 grams of carbs pre workout, surprising energy, strength, and pumps in spite of this.
pumps were so intense that my shoulders were literally stinging, I had to bend over and rest my elbows on my knees to give them a break.
good stuff
feeling healthy and strong...and not yellow (knock on wood)
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day 12
sick arm session
strength was up on everything, as was endurance. also looking leaner
pec injection the night before made dips kinda unpleasant.. but i was able to work around em
intense pump and focus.
feeling healthy and strong
sick arm session
strength was up on everything, as was endurance. also looking leaner
pec injection the night before made dips kinda unpleasant.. but i was able to work around em
intense pump and focus.
feeling healthy and strong
hey SD been spot injecting in different areas but never in pecs and was wondering what gauge poker do u use and length, slin pin maybe? LOL!! I just re-read this question and is not intended to be a sexual innuendo.
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just curious, what is the alternative to "spot injecting"?
I use a 23g 1"
preferably circumcized
Thanks bro.....alternative? Spot injecting is rotating sites to prevent scar tissue as u already know. I used to think it would help with localized growth because of the stretching of fascia but now realize its temporarily swelling. 23 gauge oouch in pec, damn your a soldier. Ok, think i am gonna try hitting my pecs with 25g 5/8".
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yeah ive only ever used 23g, for some reason my chest takes FOREVER to get all the gear in.
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i agree. personally i strongly prefer 23g 1" i hit triceps, pecs, delts, quads all no problem. was forced to do slin pins for a bit did em in tris mostly took FOREVER to get the juice in though. my hands fell asleep ha
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exactly, people say that larger gauge needles cause more scar tissue..
but i figure the opposite is true when you consider how long you have to keep the needle in to push all the oil through a smaller one (how much you move the smaller gauge needle due to natural human shaking/twitching)
but i figure the opposite is true when you consider how long you have to keep the needle in to push all the oil through a smaller one (how much you move the smaller gauge needle due to natural human shaking/twitching)
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day 13 legs
started with RDL's
did 5 reps of 315 pretty easily, could have definitely done more but my lower back got a really nasty pump which made it too painful to continue.
the pump also made it impossible to do squats, so I just focused on leg press and hamstring curl machine variations..
I find that ever since i started the oral tren, ive been getting painful pumps in my ass..weird
up to 1500mcg/day feeling strong and healthy
started with RDL's
did 5 reps of 315 pretty easily, could have definitely done more but my lower back got a really nasty pump which made it too painful to continue.
the pump also made it impossible to do squats, so I just focused on leg press and hamstring curl machine variations..
I find that ever since i started the oral tren, ive been getting painful pumps in my ass..weird
up to 1500mcg/day feeling strong and healthy
I disagree, in my opinion once the needle is in the muscle to damage is done. I'm using a 25g x 1 1/2 inch pin on both delts and quads. I just don't drive the pin all the way home on delts. Larger needle, larger hole, more trauma. My wife has said the same, she is an RN.
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yes, i agree with this about the larger circumference causing a bigger hole..
However, I was referring to the length of time it takes to push oil through a 25g, and how much more natural human twitching that occurs with holding the pin in place.
say it takes 1 minute to do 2cc's with a 23g, but 2 minutes to do 2cc's with a 25g
that's an extra 60 seconds of twitching/moving, and unless you can keep the pin perfectly still (which i definitely cant) i feel that 23g is superior in a way..
maybe naps should develop a machine that will do the pinning for us
I see your point, but honestly it takes me about 30 seconds with a 25g needle to push 3cc's in my delts, less times in my quads. Saving 5 seconds using a 23g is not worth the increased trauma.
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holy shit must be nice
it takes me like 2 minutes to do 3ml in anything.. with a 23g lol
i guess that's just something that will improve with experience
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at least the new GP vials are easier to penetrate
My first pin ever, fucking guy gave me 18g needles. They looked like swords, hurt like a bitch. I thought to myself "what the fuck am I doing???".
Now, I just take that little ol' 25g needle, fill the barrel, drive it home and push. Easy as pie!!!
^ this..........same here Anabolic. I remember when i first started juicing we got a bunch of preloaded 250 Sustanon(Organon) from Mexico they were 18g and man did that hurt......shewwww. I use 25g also but warm the oil up in barrel under hot water first. It does take a little longer to inject 3mls though. Just push stop take a quick break then push the rest in.
You really think warming the oil helps that much? I've tried it, never really noticed a difference. What has helped me is pinning right after a hot shower, skin is soft and the pin pushes through very easy.
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Same here, I've tried warming the oil and I didn't feel a difference, and yes, pinning after a hot shower to me works better. After so many years doing this Bro, we have to get creative..lol
Ya know it might be a placebo effect, sometimes i would take it a step further and warm h2o in a tall glass in microwave for 20 secs then drop the whole syringe loaded with gear in glass let it sit for a minute or so. Pull the syringe out change the needle because the pin gets hot, then quickly inject. This way the oil seems to become smoother and injects easier.
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my thread
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sooooooooooo update
decided to add 50mg of dbol ED for the next god knows how long
I know 2 orals espeically oral tren blah blah blah... we shall see how this goes. Trust me, I will cut every last bit of orals out of my cycle for the remainder of the cycle at the very first indication that something might be wrong (researching symptoms currently)
my liver has been through a lot over the years (accutane...months of high dose orals etc..) and has never seen any damage worth mentioning according to the doctor's tests.
I know a guy who combined accutane with alchoholism, he woke up one morning puking black stuff and shitting blood.. after a stay at the ER, he ended up being totally fine.
Ill be cutting the oral tren out regardles in the next week anyhoo
I just LOVE gp Dbol.. amazing size, strength, and pumps
decided to add 50mg of dbol ED for the next god knows how long
I know 2 orals espeically oral tren blah blah blah... we shall see how this goes. Trust me, I will cut every last bit of orals out of my cycle for the remainder of the cycle at the very first indication that something might be wrong (researching symptoms currently)
my liver has been through a lot over the years (accutane...months of high dose orals etc..) and has never seen any damage worth mentioning according to the doctor's tests.
I know a guy who combined accutane with alchoholism, he woke up one morning puking black stuff and shitting blood.. after a stay at the ER, he ended up being totally fine.
Ill be cutting the oral tren out regardles in the next week anyhoo
I just LOVE gp Dbol.. amazing size, strength, and pumps
How about some gear pics or progress pics SD? Lets see what your working with bro, that would be cool.
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ill post a pic tonight... but I won't confirm whether or not its really me 
gotta keep them guessing
gotta keep them guessing
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this may or may not be me, and may or may not have been uploaded from my computer/the library computer/a friends computer.
pic is about a month old, but it gives you an idea...if it is really me that is, and not some picture I downloaded off the internet
he looks like he's 5'9 200 in the pic.. whoever he might be
pic is about a month old, but it gives you an idea...if it is really me that is, and not some picture I downloaded off the internet
he looks like he's 5'9 200 in the pic.. whoever he might be
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not impressive compared to some, but he's a work in progress
