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Yep, Canadian musilms. I also know many American muslims like that. Those are the "watered down" Muslims that had the sense (and $) to get out of their own shithole countries for a better life. A generation or two in the nonmuslim world will have a civilizing effect. On the other hand, EU countries haven't exactly had the best of luck with multiculturalism and relaxed immigration policies as millions of arabs have moved in only to leach off their generous welfare state and demand special accomodations from the govt.

Also, most any westerner wouldn't be able to tell the difference b/w a muslim and a sikh if they'd never seen a sikh. Perhaps the biggest difference is that the latter doesn't expect to be rewarded with 72 virgins for killing you or I.



Perhaps if you're referring to the wars and occupation of muslim countries over the last 100 years. But, that is geopolitics and has nothing to do with religion. More specifically, it's about oil.

I don't get it. Is Islam the only religion that you libbies don't hate? You guys love to bash Christianity, but you sure get bent out of shape whenever anyone criticizes islam.

Hey, I'm a libbie and I hate Islam just as much as Christianity. We musn't forget hitler who was a Christian and all of those that he killed. And, of course all of the men who actually killed the Jews for him were predominantly Christian.
 
Hey, I'm a libbie and I hate Islam just as much as Christianity. We musn't forget hitler who was a Christian and all of those that he killed. And, of course all of the men who actually killed the Jews for him were predominantly Christian.

I'm not an expert on Hitler's ideology. But, from wat I have read in Mein Kamph, his ideoloy had more to do with the Occult, than Christianity. He seemed to have created his own spiritual ideology, which was far from Christianity. I think it's pretty safe to say that Hitler was not a Christian. He was clearly a white supremacist and I don't see any parrallells between Christianity and white supremacy.
 
I'm not an expert on Hitler's ideology. But, from wat I have read in Mein Kamph, his ideoloy had more to do with the Occult, than Christianity. He seemed to have created his own spiritual ideology, which was far from Christianity. I think it's pretty safe to say that Hitler was not a Christian. He was clearly a white supremacist and I don't see any parrallells between Christianity and white supremacy.



Hitler ordered Bibles and any books questioning his ideology burned. He wanted the Bible replace with Mein Kampf, his teachings.
 
What is it about Islam you love so much?
It has potential to produce wonderful people. I have some good friends and coworkers and they are devout muslims.:D
 
Hitler repeatedly called himself a Christian and claimed that he was doing what the lord wanted him to do. The argument that he just said those things but wasn't really a Christian could be applied to bin laden as well. What else do we have to go by when someone w their own words proclaims a religion? If you believe Jesus was the son of god, you're a Christian no matter what behaviors you engage in.

And you're still not addressing the fact that the ones who actually did the killing were predominantly Christian.
 
There was a special on nat geo (strange huh?) about hitler last night.

I gotta say guys, he may have been an evil slum lord type of guy.

But I couldn't help but respect that he had balls.
 
There was a special on nat geo (strange huh?) about hitler last night.

I gotta say guys, he may have been an evil slum lord type of guy.

But I couldn't help but respect that he had balls.
I see him as a weak, ignorant man, who wasted his whole precious life by becoming a victim of his own power.:(
 
Hitler repeatedly called himself a Christian and claimed that he was doing what the lord wanted him to do. The argument that he just said those things but wasn't really a Christian could be applied to bin laden as well. What else do we have to go by when someone w their own words proclaims a religion?

You go by their history. Hitler's parents were Christian. Hitler turned his back on religion just after leaving home. He also had many choice words to say about it.

Hitler had a history of doing and saying whatever it took at that moment to get more power. He was incredibly charismatic.

I still say he should have been the the man of the (20th) century.
 
I would've thought it much higher actually. Depends on the perspective also. Some call it mass murder. I call it a good start.

Once again. That's not because of religion. It's resources (i.e. oil) and the MIC.

That's only including attacks that Muslims have done in the US. how about across the world? Does anyone know?
 
Yep, Canadian musilms. I also know many American muslims like that. Those are the "watered down" Muslims that had the sense (and $) to get out of their own shithole countries for a better life. A generation or two in the nonmuslim world will have a civilizing effect. On the other hand, EU countries haven't exactly had the best of luck with multiculturalism and relaxed immigration policies as millions of arabs have moved in only to leach off their generous welfare state and demand special accomodations from the govt.

Also, most any westerner wouldn't be able to tell the difference b/w a muslim and a sikh if they'd never seen a sikh. Perhaps the biggest difference is that the latter doesn't expect to be rewarded with 72 virgins for killing you or I.



Perhaps if you're referring to the wars and occupation of muslim countries over the last 100 years. But, that is geopolitics and has nothing to do with religion. More specifically, it's about oil.

I don't get it. Is Islam the only religion that you libbies don't hate? You guys love to bash Christianity, but you sure get bent out of shape whenever anyone criticizes islam.

I don't hate any religion, I just don't believe in religions as being a guiding force for any person, though I have to say, I can't fault anyone for following Buddhism. Islam and Jewdaism intrigue me, of the people I know, they are pretty principled. My Muslim friend simply will not drink, but his wife does and he does not harp on anyone at the christmas party who does (yep, they go to christmas parties too)

As for Christianity. Well Christians are probably the best example of people who do the complete opposite of what they preach. I grew up Catholic and realized at an early age, that as soon as you leave church, all bets are off. Some of the most phony people I know. People who pray for good fortune...it sickens me more than the religions that stone people to death (sick, but at least they're committed)

I don't know any fanatical Muslims or Jews, but I sure know a bunch of fanatical Christians...weird huh...
 
It has potential to produce wonderful people. I have some good friends and coworkers and they are devout muslims.:D

I love Islam like any other religions. I just don't like people who misrepresent their faiths. There are rotten tomatoes in all religions and societies.:)


Chubby, from what I can tell you're a decent person. You just don't know enough about Islam yet. Those folks you may know who don't go around lopping off heads and beating women in the streets simply don't practice Islam in full... We were taught to hate you and anyone else who doesn't worship Allah alone... To regard you as sahr al-bariyyah, or the worst and most vile of things amongst creation (It mentions this in surah bayyinah). I've prayed alongside these people, ate with them, even had the chance to marry many of them. They aren't misrepresenting ANYTHING! On the contrary, they are making their belief manifest.

I left it because I definitely wasn't that type of person. I could never bring myself to hate my own family (which includes both Christians and Jews) and I missed out on a number of opportunities to better myself. Now I'm doing what I love, working with kids that have special needs and I'm currently in the process to become a firefighter (couldn't do this before because I had to keep my beard). Honestly, I couldn't be happier!

I should also note that I wasn't just some ignorant layman that didn't actually know anything about the faith. I was about to go to a well-known university in the kingdom because of my level of knowledge. I picked up the language in about a year and memorized about a third of the qur'an as well as several hundred different hadiths... I still have that in my head too! Nowadays I just do what I can to discourage people from embracing Islam. I still have,to watch where I go for fear of my life!
 
I don't hate any religion, I just don't believe in religions as being a guiding force for any person, though I have to say, I can't fault anyone for following Buddhism. Islam and Jewdaism intrigue me, of the people I know, they are pretty principled. My Muslim friend simply will not drink, but his wife does and he does not harp on anyone at the christmas party who does (yep, they go to christmas parties too)

As for Christianity. Well Christians are probably the best example of people who do the complete opposite of what they preach. I grew up Catholic and realized at an early age, that as soon as you leave church, all bets are off. Some of the most phony people I know. People who pray for good fortune...it sickens me more than the religions that stone people to death (sick, but at least they're committed)

I don't know any fanatical Muslims or Jews, but I sure know a bunch of fanatical Christians...weird huh...

The only reason you haven't seen any hypocisy is because you haven't lived in a muslim country. And you're right, they seem committed, but do you really want someone to be committed to a religion that may lead to your demise? Your friend is simply passing over the parts of the Qur'an that aren't acceptable in the civilized world, that's all.
 
You go by their history. Hitler's parents were Christian. Hitler turned his back on religion just after leaving home. He also had many choice words to say about it.

Hitler had a history of doing and saying whatever it took at that moment to get more power. He was incredibly charismatic.

I still say he should have been the the man of the (20th) century.

I could use this argument and say, "look at bin ladens history, he just said he is Muslim to get power, when he didn't actually follow the good scriptures in the Koran." The bible and Koran are both full of atrocious and good scriptures.

And, you still ignored the fact that the ones that did the killing were Christian. That's a lot of dead people at the hands of "real" Christians.

I'm not defending Islam one bit, but we can't ignore that both religions have led to too many massacres.
 
That's only including attacks that Muslims have done in the US. how about across the world? Does anyone know?

How about this?
Map of worst terrorist attacks worldwide: 100 or more fatalities

(under construction)
compiled by Wm. Robert Johnston
last updated 23 May 2010
Map of worst terrorist attacks worldwide: 100 or more fatalities


Map of worst terrorist attacks in the Middle East: 100 or more fatalities



These maps shows the locations of terrorist strikes resulting in 100 or more fatalities, based on these listings:

List of worst terrorist acts
Incidents of mass casualty terrorism
Numbers identify the individual strikes chronologically in the list below (fatalities in parentheses). Magenta identifies strikes by Islamic terrorists, red identifies all other strikes (note: association of individual strikes with Islamic terrorism is not authoritative). (A single "strike" often includes coordinated attacks at multiple locations on the same day.)
The 9/11 attacks are number 34; numbers 35-66 are post-9/11 strikes. The deadliest strikes were numbers 34, 58, 5, 44, 10, and 20. Strikes in Iraq since the U.S. invasion in 2003 are numbers 37-38, 41, 43, 45-47, 50-55, 57-58, 62-63, and 65-66.

13 Dec 1921: bombing of Bolgard palace in Bessarabia (modern Moldova) (100)
16 Apr 1925: bombing of cathedral in Sophia, Bulgaria (160)
18 May 1973: mid-air bombing of Aeroflot airliner, Siberia (100)
4 Dec 1977: crash of hijacked Malaysian airliner near Malaysia (100)
20 Aug 1978: arson of theater in Abadan, Iran (477)
20 Nov-5 Dec 1979: hostage taking at Grand Mosque in Mecca, Saudi Arabia (includes 87 terrorists killed) (240)
23 Sep 1983: crash of Gulf Air flight following mid-air bombing over the UAE (112)
23 Oct 1983: truck bombings of U.S. Marine and French barracks, Beirut, Lebanon (301)
14 May 1985: armed attack on crowds in Anuradhapura, Sri Lanka (150)
23 Jun 1985: mid-air bombing of Air India flight off Ireland, and attempted bombing of second flight in Canada (331)
18 Apr 1987: roadway ambush near Alut Oya, Sri Lanka (127)
21 Apr 1987: bombing of bus depot in Columbo, Sri Lanka (106)
29 Nov 1987: mid-air bombing of Korean Air flight near Burma (115)
21 Dec 1988: mid-air bombing of Pan Am flight over Lockerbie, Scotland (270)
19 Sep 1989: mid-air bombing of French UTA flight near Bilma, Niger (171)
27 Nov 1989: mid-air bombing of Avianca flight in Bogota, Columbia (110)
3 Aug 1990: armed attack at two mosques in Kathankudy, Sri Lanka (140)
13 Aug 1990: armed attack at mosque in Eravur, Sri Lanka (122)
2 Oct 1990: crash of hijacked PRC airliner in Guangzhou, PRC (132)
12 Mar 1993: 15 bombings in Bombay, India (317)
22 Sep 1993: crash of airliner struck by missile in Sukhumi, Georgia (106)
19 Apr 1995: truck bombing of federal building, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, USA (169)
14-19 June 1996: hostage taking in Budennovsk, Russia, and two failed rescue attempts (143)
23 Nov 1996: crash of hijacked Ethiopian Air flight off Comoros (127)
29 Aug 1997: attacks at Sidi Moussa and Hais Rais, Algeria (238)
22 Sep 1997: attack at Ben Talha, Algeria (277)
30 Dec 1997: attack at Ami Moussa, Algeria (272)
4 Jan 1998: attacks at Had Chekala, Remka, and Ain Tarik, Algeria (172)
11 Jan 1998: attack on movie theater and mosque at Sidi Hamed, Algeria (103)
8 Aug 1998: truck bombings of U.S. embassies in Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Saalam, Tanzania (303)
13 Sep 1999: bombing of apartment building in Moscow, Russia (130)
31 Oct 1999: intentional crash of Egypt Air flight off Massachusetts, USA, by pilot (217)
10 Aug 2001: attack on train south of Luanda, Angola (152)
11 Sep 2001: crashing of hijacked planes into World Trade Center, New York City, New York, Pentagon in Alexandria, Virginia, and site in Pennsylvania, USA (2,993)
12 Oct 2002: car bombing outside nightclub in Kuta, Indonesia (202)
26 Oct 2002: hostage taking and attempted rescue in theater in Moscow, Russia (includes 41 terrorists killed) (170)
29 Aug 2003: car bombing outside mosque in Najaf, Iraq (125)
1 Feb 2004: two suicide bombings of political party offices in Irbil, Iraq (109)
21 Feb 2004: armed attack and arson at refugee camp, Uganda (239)
27 Feb 2004: bombing and fire on ferry near Manila, Philippines (118)
2 Mar 2004: multiple suicide bombings at shrines in Kadhimiya and Karbala, Iraq (188)
11 Mar 2004: bombings of four trains in Madrid, Spain (191)
24 Jun 2004: multiple bombings and armed attacks in several cities in Iraq (103)
1-3 Sep 2004: hostage taking at school in Beslan, Russia (includes 30 terrorists killed) (366)
28 Feb 2005: car bombing outside medical clinic in Hilla, Iraq (135)
14 Sep 2005: multiple suicide bombings and shooting attacks in Baghdad, Iraq (182)
5 Jan 2006: bombings in Karbala, Ramadi, and Baghdad, Iraq (124)
11 Jul 2006: multiple bombings on commuter trains in Mumbai, India (200)
16 Oct 2006: truck bombing of military convoy near Habarana, Sri Lanka (103)
23 Nov 2006: multiple car bombings in Baghdad, Iraq (202)
22 Jan 2007: multiple bombings in Baghdad area, Iraq (101)
3 Feb 2007: truck bombing in market place in Baghdad, Iraq (137)
6 Mar 2007: two bombings and other attacks on pilgrims, Hilla, Iraq (137)
27 Mar 2007: two truck bombings in Tal Afar, Iraq (152)
18 Apr 2007: bombings in Baghdad, Iraq (193)
3-10 Jul 2007: hostage taking and subsequent storming of mosque in Islamabad, Pakistan (102)
7 Jul 2007: bombings in Baghdad and Armili, Iraq (182)
14 Aug 2007: multiple truck bombings in Al-Qataniyah and Al-Adnaniyah, Iraq (520)
18 Oct 2007: bombing of motorcade in Karachi, Pakistan (137)
17 Feb 2008: bombing at dogfighting festival in Kandahar, Afghanistan (105)
26-29 Nov 2008: multiple gun and grenade attacks and hostage takings in Mumbai, India (174)
19 Aug 2009: multiple bombings at government sites in Baghdad, Iraq (102)
25 Oct 2009: two vehicle bombings at government buildings in Baghdad, Iraq (155)
28 Oct 2009: bombing at marketplace in Pakistan (118)
8 Dec 2009: five car bombings in Baghdad, Iraq (127)
10 May 2010: multiple bombings in Hilla, Basra, al-Suwayra, and other cities, Iraq (102)
 
I could use this argument and say, "look at bin ladens history, he just said he is Muslim to get power, when he didn't actually follow the good scriptures in the Koran." The bible and Koran are both full of atrocious and good scriptures.

And, you still ignored the fact that the ones that did the killing were Christian. That's a lot of dead people at the hands of "real" Christians.

I'm not defending Islam one bit, but we can't ignore that both religions have led to too many massacres.
Except Bin Laden has never denounced Islam.

Everyone has done their share of killing. But right now, Muslims are more fucked up than anyone else. They have a shit culture.
 
Religion is one of the most evil things ever created by man, only used to control others by those in power.

It is not real, none of them are, they are created to make you fear and do good and not revolt against the government or the pope or whatever religious figure you worship. So you sit at home and pay your taxes while the priests and politicians live it up. Tell me I'm wrong and I'll tell you to open your eyes and look around.

You don't go to heaven but you believe it because it makes you feel good like you will really see your grandparents or parents again. you won't.
 
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Except Bin Laden has never denounced Islam.

Everyone has done their share of killing. But right now, Muslims are more fucked up than anyone else. They have a shit culture.

I agree, my point is that Christianity doesn't get off the hook so easily. The Christians that killed all those Jews were killing civilians too.
 
I agree, my point is that Christianity doesn't get off the hook so easily. The Christians that killed all those Jews were killing civilians too.

I mostly agree. However, when you're pushed that badly, you may do horrible things. After WW1, Germany was put down and treated like shit. They were put into a position where they had to fight again.
 
I mostly agree. However, when you're pushed that badly, you may do horrible things. After WW1, Germany was put down and treated like shit. They were put into a position where they had to fight again.

Your history is much better than mine. I'm always amazed at how fucked up men can be. I'm sure those nazis that spent their whole day slaughtering women and children would go home and be good husbands and fathers. Then would go to church on Sunday and try to be like Jesus.
 
Your history is much better than mine. I'm always amazed at how fucked up men can be. I'm sure those nazis that spent their whole day slaughtering women and children would go home and be good husbands and fathers. Then would go to church on Sunday and try to be like Jesus.

And not a few of them took their own lives or were killed for not following orders.

Also, the number of people that killed the Jews were small compared to those that were fighting the Allies to defend their families.
 
I agree, my point is that Christianity doesn't get off the hook so easily. The Christians that killed all those Jews were killing civilians too.

exphysiologist88,
Lets put it this way,you have your opinions and state them freely in a predominantly Christian country.And what happens?Nothing.Just a debate.
Now try it this way. Get a plane ticket and fly over to a predominantly muslim country(Iran,Afghanistan,Syria,ect).And voice your opinions there.What happens.
Your head is handed to you in a box.
Amazes me you compare the two.
 
Religion is one of the most evil things ever created by man, only used to control others by those in power.

It is not real, none of them are, they are created to make you fear and do good and not revolt against the government or the pope or whatever religious figure you worship. So you sit at home and pay your taxes while the priests and politicians live it up. Tell me I'm wrong and I'll tell you to open your eyes and look around.

You don't go to heaven but you believe it because it makes you feel good like you will really see your grandparents or parents again. you won't.

Wrong. There is a spiritual side to religion that helps ground us to the universe or whatever you perceive our sphere of existence to be and whether you think it's a god in the sky or a cosmic oneness that interconnects everyone to the universe the benefits far outweigh the negatives. The problem is when we try to force our beliefs on others because we think it is the only way. Democracy vs Communism for example or Big Endian vs Little Endian. Placing blame solves nothing and is the reason for the fighting in this thread, and that blame is based on beliefs and as System of a Down says "Beliefs are the bullets of the wicked"
 
exphysiologist88,
Lets put it this way,you have your opinions and state them freely in a predominantly Christian country.And what happens?Nothing.Just a debate.
Now try it this way. Get a plane ticket and fly over to a predominantly muslim country(Iran,Afghanistan,Syria,ect).And voice your opinions there.What happens.
Your head is handed to you in a box.
Amazes me you compare the two.

I couldn't agree more. If you've seen enough of my posts, you'll see that I agree that currently Islam is by far more of a problem to the world. But, I still see many problems that Christianity creates. And, because I live in a secular country w predominantly Christians, their retardedness affects me everyday. I know there is no comparison between Christian stupidity and Muslim atrocities, and it's not my intention to make that comparison, I just enjoy pointing out how stupid all Of religions' beliefs are. Mormons are fun to make fun of too.
 
exphysiologist88,
Lets put it this way,you have your opinions and state them freely in a predominantly Christian country.And what happens?Nothing.Just a debate.
Now try it this way. Get a plane ticket and fly over to a predominantly muslim country(Iran,Afghanistan,Syria,ect).And voice your opinions there.What happens.
Your head is handed to you in a box.
Amazes me you compare the two.

I couldn't agree more. If you've seen enough of my posts, you'll see that I agree that currently Islam is by far more of a problem to the world. But, I still see many problems that Christianity creates. And, because I live in a secular country w predominantly Christians, their retardedness affects me everyday. I know there is no comparison between Christian stupidity and Muslim atrocities, and it's not my intention to make that comparison, I just enjoy pointing out how stupid all Of religions' beliefs are. Mormons are fun to make fun of too.

I disagree. It's all a matter of perspective based on which jug of coolaide you're drinking from. Our perceptions are formed by domestic media and politics, no matter what country or religion you come from. The less intelligent you are, the more you are likely to believe what other people tell you.

There are 2.5 million Christians in Syria. I bet more Mosques in the U.S have been vandalized then Chruches in Syria.

The problem with talking out of your ass (and this is not in referrence to exphysiologist88) is that when you say things that are not true, frightened stupid people might believe you and then you create perception...

One religion is not more radical than the other, people are radical. Those who commit terrorism or support it are typically witin the stupid poor class. Yes there are wealthy terrorist, but without stupid low class people, they would not have any followers. Reverse the fortunes in the east and west. Let's assume that the U.S. was mainly poor from the time of the Puritans and the Middle East went the way of democracy and capitalism. We'd have some fucked up suicide bombers in the U.S. Who knows, this day might very well come...

There have been capitalistic muslim societies, there are also different Muslim sects. You'll not find too many Ismailis willing to resign as partner from their Law Firm to strap a bomb across their chest...
 
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I disagree. It's all a matter of perspective based on which jug of coolaide you're drinking from. Our perceptions are formed by domestic media and politics, no matter what country or religion you come from. The less intelligent you are, the more you are likely to believe what other people tell you.

There are 2.5 million Christians in Syria. I bet more Mosques in the U.S have been vandalized then Chruches in Syria.

The problem with talking out of your ass (and this is not in referrence to exphysiologist88) is that when you say things that are not true, frightened stupid people might believe you and then you create perception...

One religion is not more radical than the other, people are radical. Those who commit terrorism or support it are typically witin the stupid poor class. Yes there are wealthy terrorist, but without stupid low class people, they would not have any followers. Reverse the fortunes in the east and west. Let's assume that the U.S. was mainly poor from the time of the Puritans and the Middle East went the way of democracy and capitalism. We'd have some fucked up suicide bombers in the U.S. Who knows, this day might very well come...

There have been capitalistic muslim societies, there are also different Muslim sects. You'll not find too many Ismailis willing to resign as partner from their Law Firm to strap a bomb across their chest...[/QU

Syrian gov't is trying to shut churches down.
Saudia Arabia doesn't even have any churches.
U.S. has over 1200 mosques.....so your probally right.
 
I disagree. It's all a matter of perspective based on which jug of coolaide you're drinking from. Our perceptions are formed by domestic media and politics, no matter what country or religion you come from. The less intelligent you are, the more you are likely to believe what other people tell you.

There are 2.5 million Christians in Syria. I bet more Mosques in the U.S have been vandalized then Chruches in Syria.

The problem with talking out of your ass (and this is not in referrence to exphysiologist88) is that when you say things that are not true, frightened stupid people might believe you and then you create perception...

One religion is not more radical than the other, people are radical. Those who commit terrorism or support it are typically witin the stupid poor class. Yes there are wealthy terrorist, but without stupid low class people, they would not have any followers. Reverse the fortunes in the east and west. Let's assume that the U.S. was mainly poor from the time of the Puritans and the Middle East went the way of democracy and capitalism. We'd have some fucked up suicide bombers in the U.S. Who knows, this day might very well come...

There have been capitalistic muslim societies, there are also different Muslim sects. You'll not find too many Ismailis willing to resign as partner from their Law Firm to strap a bomb across their chest...[/QU

Syrian gov't is trying to shut churches down.
Saudia Arabia doesn't even have any churches.
U.S. has over 1200 mosques.....so your probally right.

Really?? Syria's government is trying to shut churches down. Did you just make that up to try and prove your point. :clapping:

Here you go, from the New York Times.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/28/w...ians-back-bashar-al-assad.html?pagewanted=all

Also, here's a pick in 07 of Assad with Muslim and Christian Leaders. Now why the fuck would he pose in such a picture when Christians make up only 10% of the population and he wants them out???

You said

"Now try it this way. Get a plane ticket and fly over to a predominantly muslim country(Iran,Afghanistan,Syria,ect).And voice your opinions there.What happens.
Your head is handed to you in a box.
Amazes me you compare the two"

I'm saying you're full of shit. No Christians heads are not beeing handed to anyone in a Box in Syria. Many Muslim nations protect the rights of all religions, but recognize a majority religion (hmmmmm...kind of like a big country in the west). Many christian are even represented in government, so yeah, they can speak pretty freely.

Are there a few fucked up societies, absolutley. Christians and Muslims fled Iran in the 80's, but even to today, the Iranian constitution protects the rights of Christians to be represented in Government.

There have only ever been Muslim members of congrass (elected 2007 and 2008). That's a pretty shitty track record compared to some predominately Muslim countries...

Again, the problem with talking out of your ass, is that stupid people might actually believe you.
 
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