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Here I Am... First T cycle

I put my pics up for so I have to answer to the forum for not busting my ass every day in the gym..... I sure will post those pics!!!!

bro, set up a journal... it is awesome to see your gains and stats go up every week!
 
Sounds like you are ready to go. Lets get this ordered so you can tell us about your first pin and how freaked out you were.
 
Yep I agree. I think I'm gonna do it right here.
 
Hey stupid question but.... split a 25mg aromasin pill to obtain 12,5mg is really easy, you just split it in two equal part.

But how to do it to obtain 10mg or 20mg????
 
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I don't know lol, never used aromasin

I'd imagine you'd have to split the pill in half, then split the half into sixths, then take 5/6 of a half??

It'd be slightly easier with liquid though
 
CityHunter said:
Hey stupid question but.... split a 25mg aromasin pill to obtain 12,5mg is really easy, you just split it in two equal part.

But how to do it to obtain 10mg or 20mg????
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Just split it in half. Dont worry about micromanaging that close. 12.5mg is close enough to 10. And IMHO I hate liquid. I put all my vitamins in one of those SMTWTHFS pill containers and in one swig have them all down.
 
THx master Yoda, I'm glad you're here to guide me through the dark side ;-)
 
I roll with 12.5 mgs ED.... works fine. Keeps bloat at bay and no signs of gyno
 
Other thing I just realize... the vial of 5000Iu HCG comes in powder. I assume you have to inject inside sterile injection water. But how much for a vial of 5000iu??

For the injection in the body, what represent 500iu in ml?????

And last thing can I use the same needle I take to inject testostene, which is a 23 gauge?
 
haha I don't think 12.5mg would be an issue, I don't even know why so many people say 10mg? I use a-dex usually and it's usually a simple 1/4 of a pill, either way it's better too much AI than not enough
 
Wowwwwww!!!!!! My crédit card is burning, but it's official, the shit is on her way!
 
Hey guys,

Waiting my gear, I was thinking what will my diet be during my cycle.

I read in some articles that I should increase my maintenance and add 2000 cals more. My maintenance is around 3000 cals/day, so here is what I'm thinking to do, tell me what you think about that :

Calories : 5000
Proteins : 200G or more ( my lbm is 85kg)
Fat : 100G
Carbs : don't know much for this one, does it really matter?
 
CityHunter said:
Hey guys,

Waiting my gear, I was thinking what will my diet be during my cycle.

I read in some articles that I should increase my maintenance and add 2000 cals more. My maintenance is around 3000 cals/day, so here is what I'm thinking to do, tell me what you think about that :

Calories : 5000
Proteins : 200G or more ( my lbm is 85kg)
Fat : 100G
Carbs : don't know much for this one, does it really matter?
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You will need a freakin lot of carbs to get to 5000 cals. And 5k cals is an overkill on your weight.

Keep protein around 300g, fat 110g and carbs around 350-400g, I doubt you need more that's about 4k clean cals.
 
Night_Wolf said:
You will need a freakin lot of carbs to get to 5000 cals. And 5k cals is an overkill on your weight.

Keep protein around 300g, fat 110g and carbs around 350-400g, I doubt you need more that's about 4k clean cals.
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Good advice, it seems clever even if 300g of proteins is a lot lol!

I was wondering with the cycle above, how many pounds of muscle can I expect???? I read between 20 and 40... if it's right that's not too bad ;-)
 
I think 500mg of test per wk should be more than enough at this stage in the game. Why not try it for the first 3 wks see how you feel then if you feel you need more up it by 100mg. Why wait until you have a complete moon face to say "O" I think my test is a little too high, and the fact that you will be bloated and smooth. just my 2 cents. Otherwise everything looks great.
 
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Hey Spartan,

There is différents point of views on that when you read HeavyIron or Juggie or Built. I didn't decide yet. I'll see that once I'll get my gear, but I like your moderate approach and I might indeed do that for the 5 first weeks...
 
Keep it as simple as possible.

500mg test E will yield very nice results if you eat enough.

If the hair stuff is working for you go ahead and use it.

You may or may not need that much A/I. You need to experiment to see what works best for you. Personally, I can get away with 12.5mg a week when using 800mg of test C, others have to use that much or more a day. My point being everyone is different.

Use Heavyiron's PCT.

Other than that train hard, eat big and you'll be happy.

Too many people will confuse you and tell you to do this or that, take it all for what it is worth.....opinions. You need to make the final call on everything.
 
2500iu HCG ED post cycle! you clearly read some WRONG information. that is just ridiculous. This is your first cycle and you are only running test. You don't need hcg during your pct.

the test will take at least 4 weeks until you even notice and effects, and hcg enters the system pretty quick unlike the slow testE. No point in taking hcg weeks before it kicks in.

hcg 250-500iu 2X/wk weeks 4-10/11....start pct week 12.

also aromasin in my opinion is not needed, especially since your only taking test and at a moderate dose. Thats good you are taking every precaution but a lot of your strength will come from the excess estrogen your body produces along with the test. so all in all, you WANT some estrogen, blocking it ALL off might make your strength gains not as insane as it should be.
 
stfuandliftbtch said:
2500iu HCG ED post cycle! you clearly read some WRONG information. that is just ridiculous. This is your first cycle and you are only running test. You don't need hcg during your pct.

the test will take at least 4 weeks until you even notice and effects, and hcg enters the system pretty quick unlike the slow testE. No point in taking hcg weeks before it kicks in.

hcg 250-500iu 2X/wk weeks 4-10/11....start pct week 12.

also aromasin in my opinion is not needed, especially since your only taking test and at a moderate dose. Thats good you are taking every precaution but a lot of your strength will come from the excess estrogen your body produces along with the test. so all in all, you WANT some estrogen, blocking it ALL off might make your strength gains not as insane as it should be.
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I appreciate your help but I got that that from the bests including HeavyIron, and Juggie and Suprfast. I know that I won't get any bullshit from them. Also, read my cycle corrected, I didn't want to run 2500iu HCG ED PCT, I made a mistake when I wrote it and was thinking first 2500Iu per week, and after corrections, it will be 1000Iu per week for PCT. Concerning aromasin I'd rather take precautions preventing me from sides I really want to avoid. But thx for your advice, I appreciate.
 
guarantee im not giving you "bullshit", but yes, those guys have a lot more experience and are the right people to listen too. HCG is to help restore hpta and bring balls back to normal, if you are using it on cycle there should be no need for it during pct. i know you are dead set on your cycle/pct, but anyone else reading this thread for 1st cycle advice, hcg is not necessary "during" pct and 100mgs of clomid for 3 weeks is to long..you will be fine cutting it to 50mgs by week 3.


p.s. Before you start using hcg and decide to run hcg "during" pct and just shooting up whatever because of what a few people told you to do...READ THIS

HCG (Pregnyl) FAQ


8)Can I use hcg only for Pct ?
"No you shouldn't. It is better than nothing, but clomid or nolva are far better plans. Since hcg mimics lh, your body wont begin producing its own lh, as it sees no need to because test levels are high. You stop the hcg , your balls stop making test until your body begins producing adequate levels of its own lh, and that may take a while if you don't use clomid or nolvadex to stimulate lh production. The use of Clomid or Nolvadex should also be continued at least 2 weeks after hcg is discontinued to avoid the hcg causing problems."
:hmmm:
 
stfuandliftbtch said:
guarantee im not giving you "bullshit", but yes, those guys have a lot more experience and are the right people to listen too. HCG is to help restore hpta and bring balls back to normal, if you are using it on cycle there should be no need for it during pct. i know you are dead set on your cycle/pct, but anyone else reading this thread for 1st cycle advice, hcg is not necessary "during" pct and 100mgs of clomid for 3 weeks is to long..you will be fine cutting it to 50mgs by week 3.


p.s. Before you start using hcg and decide to run hcg "during" pct and just shooting up whatever because of what a few people told you to do...READ THIS

HCG (Pregnyl) FAQ


8)Can I use hcg only for Pct ?
"No you shouldn't. It is better than nothing, but clomid or nolva are far better plans. Since hcg mimics lh, your body wont begin producing its own lh, as it sees no need to because test levels are high. You stop the hcg , your balls stop making test until your body begins producing adequate levels of its own lh, and that may take a while if you don't use clomid or nolvadex to stimulate lh production. The use of Clomid or Nolvadex should also be continued at least 2 weeks after hcg is discontinued to avoid the hcg causing problems."
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Great link to the hcg thread. Very interesting. I am dong a 20 wk run and was going to be using hcg during my run to help keep my nutz from going dormant. I was thinking about doing this every 4th wk and it would go EOD for 2 wks at 500iu's then repeat after another 4 wks from the last shot. Any thoughts on this.
 
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