need a pro's advice !!

[theboneman]

im 44 years old and was on test for 2years, my wife wants one more baby so i came off the test and started pct, i never new she had plans for another baby so i never ran hcg or anything, well i ran 1500 pregnll (hcg) a week for 4 weeks with 50 mgs of proviron a day, 20 mgs of nolvadex a day, and 100 mgs of clomid a day for the first week then 50 mgs aday for the remaining 3 weeks, and its actually 6 weeks cause i had extra so i used everything up. well its been hard to perform the way ya gotta for a kid and my semen count is very low, i dont have alot of it. i feel like nothing happened, my friend gave me andro jel and said due enough to keep a healthy test count and its currently 750 per dl. wich is good for my age, my doctor called me one day and told me my test was 6500 so with your experiance and having the high test in the past, do you think ill go on if i run the same protocall again wich i have ordered.?? and one more question ? do i need to run a (AI), i want to have this kid for her and need advice from somebody who really knows his shit, thank you for helping me out, later,
BONES>

 

[heavyiron]

For fertility most docs will put you on HCG with no terstosterone. You may also try a Clomid restart but I would like to see labs on your LH, FSH and Total T first.

What was your sperm count?

 

[D-Lats]

Wont proviron keep you shut down?

 

[independent]

Im gonna take a guess here but you need to do a complete pct w/o provirion or any testosterone. I would also think you could start using hmg to stimulate sperm count. Do some research but I wonder if you could stay on a low dose of test with a hcg/hmg combo and get the job done?

 

[theboneman]

For fertility most docs will put you on HCG with no terstosterone. You may also try a Clomid restart but I would like to see labs on your LH, FSH and Total T first.

What was your sperm count?

i havnt done the sperm test yet but your right i gotta get the other ones you mentioned. i was going on the fact hardly nothing comes out anymore, very small amount its plain as day. my test is 750 per dl. (deciliter) if i dont use the jel i go down to 130 per dl. and thats low even for my age, so i figured if i went down to low i'd have no sex drive. thats why im using the jel, whats the best amount of hcg, like can i have some guidelines? and thank you for your knowledge bro.

 

[theboneman]

Wont proviron keep you shut down?

it said on the description that it helps with your sex drive so i bought it, i was going on that and other threads that said take proviron with pct. thanks bro.

 

[theboneman]

Im gonna take a guess here but you need to do a complete pct w/o provirion or any testosterone. I would also think you could start using hmg to stimulate sperm count. Do some research but I wonder if you could stay on a low dose of test with a hcg/hmg combo and get the job done?

i was using the jel cause my level goes right down to 130 per dl everytime im off test. so its been steady 750 now and i figured it would give me some sex drive, but i think your right man, i gotta repeat treatment without the test huh ?? i have 4 bottles of hcg 1500 i was told its half life is 7 days, should i bang the 1500 for 4 weeks,? or 500 a day till im out?? hey thank you for your knowlege bro i appreciate your time.

 

[heavyiron]

i havnt done the sperm test yet but your right i gotta get the other ones you mentioned. i was going on the fact hardly nothing comes out anymore, very small amount its plain as day. my test is 750 per dl. (deciliter) if i dont use the jel i go down to 130 per dl. and thats low even for my age, so i figured if i went down to low i'd have no sex drive. thanks for your knowledge bro.

HCG boosts T levels so most docs use that instead for fertility.

 

[theboneman]

HCG boosts T levels so most docs use that instead for fertility.

so your saying i dont need the jel now, b-cause the hcg will raise mine, hmm i think your right friend. thanks, by the way your ripped up pretty good man.

 

[heavyiron]

so your saying i dont need the jel now, b-cause the hcg will raise mine, hmm i think your right friend. thanks, by the way your ripped up pretty good man.

I don't think a doc will have you on testosterone for fertility because that will shut down LH and FSH. Most docs I know prescribe either HCG or Clomid for fertility. HCG being more common.

 

[independent]

If you have low test levels maybe hcg/hmg mono therapy could work.

 

[IAMLEGEND1]

HCG 500iu MWF
HMG 25iu TTHS

Person was on for 2-3 years, older guy, kept his TRT dose 250mg and did this for 2 months, 2 months later wife is pregnant.

 

[theboneman]

im running with the advice you guys have giving me, and i want to thank you guys for the insite, later,, bones,,,
edit: oh yea what about ai's is it to late for any, or can i use one, just curious, i see people talkin boutem alot.. thanks.

 

[theboneman]

HCG 500iu MWF
HMG 25iu TTHS

Person was on for 2-3 years, older guy, kept his TRT dose 250mg and did this for 2 months, 2 months later wife is pregnant.

thank you bro,,