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SuperDMZ/Halo Extreme on The Fat One

fatsopower

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Short History - a few years ago I weighed over 500lbs - yes, you're reading that right- hadn't done any exercise in forever (obviously), smoked like a chimney and ate like a hog - I could barely get out of a chair and looked like a blob of dough.
I got the wake-up call one day and decided to get into some kind of healthy shape; understand that I never expect to look like a bodybuilder, or even close - I just want to look decent and feel well.
Through consistent hard work 5-6 days a week, and sticking to a decent diet I gained a very decent amount of muscle and lost a tub load of fat - I am down to 321 lbs, with a a very decent lbm - measured through hydrostatic weighing. My ultimate goal is to reach 275lbs while trying to keep as much muscle as possible, or even possibly gain some. Btw, I am 6'2.5" and about 51.
I am very happy with my strength level, but am always extremely paranoid about losing it if I get too strict on my diet.
My sessions consist of mostly compound exercises - I love squats and dedz - and the only real isolation work I do is for arms once a week, and not too much of that; every time I've tweaked something it was from iso moves. In all movements I try to go heavy for high reps while keeping good form and range of motion- although I am partial to partials when there's no gas left in the tank or to work on certain parts of the movement. I won't lift a weight that I can't get about 10 reps with, but I still stay decently heavy.
I don't follow conventional bb or pl rules - I just do what works for me.

My current diet - and I've tried EVER DIET, and they all work for a while - is my version of the warrior diet, or carb back-loading, or whatever you want to call it today. Low carb protein shakes all day - train late afternoon - followed by high carb protein shake - followed by 2 healthy "normal" sized well balanced meals. This works out great for me as I like to eat, but I don't like how I feel afterwards - so I'd rather just have protein drinks all day till I train - I've done this before for long stints and do not have a problem with energy - I actually enjoy the feeling- and I mostly train without pre workout mind freaking supps.

cardio - I either take an evening walk in the hills with a weighted vest - using anywhere between 25 to 85lbs - or I do the evil stairmaster, alternating speed intervals; but I hate the stairmaster of course!

Supplements:

cycle - 4-6 weeks
Super DMZ
Halo Extreme
Advanced Cycle Support
Ultra Male

additionally I take 3xC1000, 3xTaurine500, 3xFishoil/cla/primrose oil/MCTs/E400,2x LiverCare, 3xCranberry extract, bcaas, glutamine, etc
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PCT
Advanced Cycle Support
E Control
Formeron (if I go past a 4 week cycle, I will probably start this after week 4).
All the additional stuff mentioned above.
Clm 75/50/50/50

and for emergencies I have access if need be to nolva and adex


I hope to run on cycle for 4-6 weeks, depending on how I feel, etc.

I am not expecting to sit back and let the supps work miracles - I don't cheat on my diet and I sweat buckets in the gym - I just am doing this to get a little kick start again as my weight loss has stalled for a long time, and the only thing the doc can come up with is that I'm eating too little! So I am upping my cals, adding in these supps, and getting ready to kick some!

I am taking a before picture - and at the end of the run I will take another pic - by then I hope to feel good enough to post them both together! :)

I hope to update my workouts daily - my diet will be almost the exact same thing every day so I wont bother repeating it.

Thanks for stopping by.

Any and all suggestions are appreciated.

Starting tomorrow morning - very excited!
 
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Chest Day

never really got my strength back in my chest movements since I started training again, so I try to stick it at the beginning of my training week hoping to give it a little extra.

Incline BB Press
95x15
95x15
135x15
185x15
225x15
185x15

Flat DB Bench ( don't do much flat bench - always tweaking my shoulders from it)
105s x10
90s x15
75s x20

PecDec - last 5 in each set are partials
stack (220) x15, x20, x25, x30

Hammer Decline Press
90 x15
180x15
140 x20

Pushups
3x10

and I was done!
 
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Back Day

Conventional DL
135x15
225x15
315x15
225x15
135x20

T-Bar Rows
3 plates x10
4 plates x15
5 plates x21
6 plates x25

Bent Over Rows
315x20
225x20
135x20

DB Rows
100s x15
130s x10
100s x20

Cable Pull Downs - full lean back
260 x10
240 x10
220 x10

and I was done!
 
Arms

It's really supposed to be a recovery day with a few arms sets thrown in with my light cardio, but I felt really good and just kept going.

Preacher DB Curls

35s, 45s, 55s x15 each

Preacher EZ BB Curls
55, 80, 90, 100, x15 each
55x25

Straight BB Curls
95x10
145x10
195x10 with immediate drop to
95x10

DB Hammer Curls
25s, 35s, 45s, 55s x 10 each

Cable Lay Back Curls- just for why not...
55, 70, 80 x15 each

Close Grip Bench
110x15
160x15
210x15
265x20 with immediate drop to
160x30

OH CG Ext
40, 70, 120, 140 x20 each

Straight Dips
10,15,15

V-Bar Press Downs
short stack (95) x20, x30, x25

Tri/Bi Supers - straight through; no breaks-just 50lbs
Tri Reverse Curls 10x10
supered with
High Cable EZ Curls 10x10

and I was done!
 
Delts/Traps

Had a good one today - felt unstoppable - either the supps are really kicking in, or maybe it's the 2.5 gallons of water I'm drinking every day! :)

Behind the Neck Presses
95x20 x2
135x20
185x20
225x20
155x30

Light Strict OHP
135 x20 x5

DB Shrugs - pause and squeeze on top
warmup - 100s x20
then drop sets:
150s x20 / 100s x20
150s x25 / 130s x25
150s x30 / 100s x30

Hammer Plate Loaded Shrugs

front and back super sets
8 total plates - 15/15
10 total plates - 15/15
12 total plates - 20/20

Upright Rows supered with Front Raises
135 x10/10 x3

and I was done!
 
Leg Day

Squats
225x10
315x5
405x8 (gassed???)
365x10
315x10
275x10

Straight Leg DL
135x10
225x10
315x10

Leg Press - paused
14 total plates x15
18 total plates x15
18 total plates x25
18 total plates x30

and I was done!
 
Lats (again) and Squats

[Although I worked heavy back already this week, I've been putting in an extra day for lats, just to work on pull up movements - I feel like a total wuss that I can't do a proper pull up from ded hang - I don't accept my weight as an excuse, and it can't be a direct strength problem, because on plate Hammer pull downs, I can easily do 6 plates a side for 20...???]

Pull Up Negatives
5x10

Assisted Pull Ups
5x15

Straight Cable Pull Downs
5x10

Iso Plate Hammer Pull Downs
5x10

Lat press Downs
5x15

Squats - jff
230 x 7 sets x10

and I was done!

end of week one - can't judge anything yet, especially since I've read so many posts so I can't tell what is placebo and what is real yet -I can definitely say that I feel good and solid, and I'm really hitting it in the gym!
 
Chest

Starting Week 2
Speed session - lighter weights but more sets/reps, and extremely short breaks. I don't feel like after a heavy session, but I still feel wore out!


Incline Bench
95x20 x2
135 x10 x10

Flat Bench
185 x10 x10

Decline Bench
225 x10 x10

PecDec
stack (220) x25, x30, x30

Lite Pull Overs
3x10

and I was done!
 
Muscle Gelz Transdermals
IronMag Labs Prohormones
IMO I would have just used the HaloEx. SDMZ will add weight while HaloEx will get you shredded.

But how do you feel with the combo? And how many caps a day are you taking of the two?

And man that is awesome you took action that most likely saved your life. At 51 and the weight you were at theres no doubt in my mind you woundnt have many years left.

Keep up the good work! :winkfinger:
 
IMO I would have just used the HaloEx. SDMZ will add weight while HaloEx will get you shredded.

But how do you feel with the combo? And how many caps a day are you taking of the two?
.........

Keep up the good work! :winkfinger:
Thanks and much appreciated.
I asked, read, and snooped around for a while till I settled on this combo. I'm following the regular dosing of 2ed for each one. I can definitely say that so far I've been feeling good, training has been solid, and I feel almost a constant "pump" - I know there's a placebo effect, but I have convinced myself that I'm beginning to seem some definition between my delts and bis!
Thanks!
 
Back Day

I have gained an abnormal amount of weight in such a short time - I don't feel bloated, I've been taking my taurine, and I'm seeing hints of definition, so I don't know what it is. If it keeps up I'll probably drop to 1 SuperDmz ed, while keeping the Halo Ext at 2ed.

Bent Over Rows - 90 degree style/full stretch with pause at the bottom
135x15
225x15
315x10
365x10
225x25

T-Bar -full stretch with pause at the bottom
3plates x20
4plates x20
5plates x20
6plates x25

DB Rows
90s x20
125s x15
110s x20

Hammer Iso Rows
100 per side x10
145 per side x15
170 per side x15

Cable Low Rows - close grip
stack (260) x10, x15, x20
and 1 drop set for 60 total reps

and I was wore out!
 
I have gained an abnormal amount of weight in such a short time - I don't feel bloated, I've been taking my taurine, and I'm seeing hints of definition, so I don't know what it is. If it keeps up I'll probably drop to 1 SuperDmz ed, while keeping the Halo Ext at 2ed....

....and I was wore out!

The SDMZ will do that. Thats what I was saying. taking one a day isnt worth it IMO. I would drop the SDMZ, save it for another cycle and Go to 75-100mg of the HaloEx.

Your strength will continue to rise but your weight wont imo. but thats relative because in fact it always comes down to diet. Ive used sdmz for both cutting and bulking. but Im younger and have more musle mass but in your case your body hasnt changed its metabolic rate yet, its getting there so dont give up and stop. Also your muscle mass isnt at the point where your body will start burning more calories.

Let me ask you, are you eating any oats in the AM? That'll help you with energy levels through most of the day.

One other thing. Im not sure if I said this but if you can find a heart rate monitor, the kind that straps around your chest, look for the brand "Polar" and do 20-25mins of the stepper machine AFTER lifting you will burn more fat.

I say this because, the first step your body goes through for energy is the glycogen/glucose in the muscles, then it goes to your glucagon reserves in your liver. Then after all that has been used up it then goes to stored fats.

So at your age, 51 with an exertion rate of 60%, 65% and 70% to burn fat your heart rate should be between 101bpm-118bpm. I know it seem really low but fat is burned at low levels of exertion. Its hard to believe but its true. and everyone is different at this formula is due to your age. if you were to maintain a higher HR you wont burn fat, but calories and increase you heart and lung strength, which is good too.
 
The SDMZ will do that. Thats what I was saying. taking one a day isnt worth it IMO. I would drop the SDMZ, save it for another cycle and Go to 75-100mg of the HaloEx.

.............
so you are saying that when I drop the SuperDMZ I can up the HaloExt to 3-4 a day? (Btw, thanks for all the other info - much appreciated)
 
mind-blowing job on the fat loss fatso! did you do that all on your own or did you have a personal trainier help you get started? That is huge progress bro especially mind-blowing at your age!

Most people say the deck is stacked against you once you get past 40 and haven't maintained reasonable health.

I need to get serious about cutting down some after reading that!

Is this your first run of a PH?
 
mind-blowing job on the fat loss fatso! did you do that all on your own or did you have a personal trainier help you get started? That is huge progress bro especially mind-blowing at your age!

Most people say the deck is stacked against you once you get past 40 and haven't maintained reasonable health.

I need to get serious about cutting down some after reading that!

Is this your first run of a PH?
Thanks! In my younger years I trained seriously for a while, so once I re-committed, I managed to find the groove.

I considered taking a personal trainer for a while just for giggles, but then I looked around the gym and saw that the trainers were basically competing with each other who could come up with the weirdest stuff!

I've tried some PH products - but nothing seems to have the "kick" this stuff has -

Thanks for the encouragement!
 
freaky solid pump today - felt goooood! The weights felt lighter too; so I'm thinking - even if it's all in my head, who cares - I get to push some weights and feel good!

Triceps


Close Grip Bench - from chest up
65x20
95x20
135x15
185x15
225x15
155x25

Cable OH Ext
70x15
100x15
110x15
1 drop set for 60 reps

V-Bar Press Downs
short stack(95) x25, x30, x25
1 drop set for 60 reps


Biceps and Forearms

Preacher EZ Curls
70x20x2
95x15
105x15
115x15

DB Hammer Curls
25s, 35s, 45s, 55s, x10 each

Cable Curls

down the stack - straight through
11 sets x10 reps


Tri/Bi supers - straight through - no breaks - just 50lbs
Drag Curls - 10x10
OH Ext - 10x10

and I was done!
 
so you are saying that when I drop the SuperDMZ I can up the HaloExt to 3-4 a day? (Btw, thanks for all the other info - much appreciated)

Its up to you but most have responded well to 75mg as their sweet spot. And 100mg as the max by what Ive read on this forum.

Im going to run it 75-100mg this summer.
 
Delts and Traps

felt really in control of the weights today - pushed full controlled rom - I'm just feeling stronger, like I own the weights - you know what I mean...

Really burned my delts - didn't go as heavy as usual, but upped the sets - still feel the burn and the pump

Seated Presses
45x20 x2
95x20
115x20
135x20
and then I got a little carried away...
185 x5x10
165 x5x10
135 x5x10


BB Shrugs - pause on top
225x20
315x20
405x20
495x20

Close Grip BB Shrugs
315x25
225x25

DB Presses - single arm
70s x3x10
50s x2x20

Rear Delt Machine - 5x10

Side Delt Machine - 5x10

and I was done -

I don't do a lot of laterals and such for 2 reasons: always used to tweak something, and I'd rather put my all into presses
 
Squat Day

Mixed it up a little today - hadn't done box squats in a while, decided to kick some in after doing some effort squats. Truth be told, can't really call them "effort" squats, cause I was really in the groove, and it was all smooth.

Squats
225x5
225x5
315x5
405x5
455x5

Touch and Go Box Squats
365x10
365x10
315x15
275x20


DL - from about 6-8" off the ground
135x15
225x10
315x10
405x10

Assisted Pull Ups for funnsies
3x10

and that was enough for today
 
Chest Day

Had a good one - solid reps, short breaks, great burn and pump.

Reverse PecDec - warm up
3x15

Incline BP
45x15
95x15
135x20
185x20
225x20

Flat BP - full 2 second pause on chest
135x10
185x10
155x10

PecDec
stack (220) x25, x25, x30

Hammer Decline Press
100x15
190x15
240x15
1 peel off set for 60 total reps

and I was done

Started formeron today - 2 pumps ed
 
Impressive journey,keep it up.So no sides from the SDMz?I have a bottle on the shelf for the future.
 
Back Day

In the "zone" today - had a good one...

90 Degree Bent Over Rows

135x20
225x15
315x25
370x20

Single DB Rows
90s x20
115s x20
100s x20

Reverse Grip Yates Rows
290x15
290x15
200x20

Leaning Pull Downs
260 (stack) x10, x15, x10

Cable Low Rows - great finisher
200 x5 x10

and I was done!
 
Just Arms

Wicked pump - great feeling!

Triceps


Close Grip Flat BP
95x20
95x20
135x20
185x20
225x25
155x20

Incline Close Grip Skullz
45x15
65x15
85x15
105x15

OH Ext
70x20
120x15
130x10

V-Bar Press Downs
short stack (95) x3 x25


Biceps

DB Preachers
30x15
55x15
65x15

EZ Bar Preachers
80x10
90x10
105x10
80 x5x10
65 x5x10

Close Grip Cable Curls - up the stack
9x20

Iso Cable Curls - no break between sets
7x15

and I was pumped!
 
:clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping:
GREAT job and amazing dedication.
 
Delts and Traps

Warmed up with tons of light front/side/rear raises

Seated Presses
95x15
95x15
135x15
185x15
165 - 5x10
145 - 5x10

Lite Strict OHP
135 - 10x10

DB Shrugs
150s x20, x25, x25

Hammer Plate Loaded Shrugs
12 total plates:
front shrugs - 3x15
supered with
rear shrugs - 3x15

Hammer Plate Loaded Paused Shrugs - 2 count pause
14 total plates:
front shrugs - 1x20
supered with
rear shrugs - 1x20

pretty decent burrrrn going in my delts and traps!
 
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