HCG for failed PCT

[msumuscle]

Long story short, I overdid my second cycle of tren A, Test P, and EQ. It's 8 months later and I'm still feeling pretty shutdown. Have seen two different endos. Saw the first one 8 or so weeks after PCT and my test levels were shot at a level of 38, low lh, low fsh, high estrogen. Saw my 2nd endo 2 months ago and my test level was 458 which is in the "normal range". Even though that may be, my LH was still lower than normal and I still have no libido and all the other classic signs of low T. They planned on giving me HCG and then changed their minds at the last minute and decided to let me recover naturally. Well, that was two months ago and still no recovery. I have 5000 IU's of HCG and a bottle of clomid and nolva. Was looking to do my own therapy and I know the dosage for use while on cycle but what about for this sort of therapy? Any suggestions? I would like to run another PCT after the HCG obviously because it does shut you down to some extent.

 

[independent]

How old are you? Do you plan on cycling more in the future?

You could try another pct. I would use your hcg at 250-500iu's ed for say 2 weeks to get them primed and do a normal pct with clomid and aromasin. You should also use an ai when you start your hcg due to an increase in estrogen from it. Imho I wouldnt high dose the hcg for that reason. I was on trt for 3 months w/o hcg and a dose of 250iu's ed brought my boys back in 1 week.

 

[j0n]

is it the same clomid/nolva you used for your first pct? do you think your long road to recovery could be due to bunk ai and serm?

 

[independent]

is it the same clomid/nolva you used for your first pct? do you think your long road to recovery could be due to bunk ai and serm?

Good point.

 

[Vibrant]

Id suggest getting more hcg. blast 2000iu eod for a total of 20,000 iu of hcg(10 injections of 2000iu). then start clomid/aromasin and make sure it's legit stuff.

 

[Digitalash]

definitely possible you got bunk serm/ai


I would follow bigmoe's protocol though and make sure you trust your chems this time. Best of luck to you, on a positive note if you don't recover you can always get on test forever

 

[Pittsburgh63]

Look in to triptorelin brother.

Triptorelin

 

[msumuscle]

How old are you? Do you plan on cycling more in the future?

You could try another pct. I would use your hcg at 250-500iu's ed for say 2 weeks to get them primed and do a normal pct with clomid and aromasin. You should also use an ai when you start your hcg due to an increase in estrogen from it. Imho I wouldnt high dose the hcg for that reason. I was on trt for 3 months w/o hcg and a dose of 250iu's ed brought my boys back in 1 week.

Im 22 years old and yes i plan to cycle in the future. Was this the protocol your doc gave you?

 

[msumuscle]

Id just like to be a little more responsible in the future

 

[msumuscle]

Look in to triptorelin brother.

Triptorelin

Already tried that path. 100 mcgs, no luck!

 

[msumuscle]

definitely possible you got bunk serm/ai


I would follow bigmoe's protocol though and make sure you trust your chems this time. Best of luck to you, on a positive note if you don't recover you can always get on test forever

Haha already talked to the doc about TRT! My test is in normal range so they wouldnt even think about it, especially at my age

 

[independent]

Im 22 years old and yes i plan to cycle in the future. Was this the protocol your doc gave you?

No, it was more research and experimentation. He put me on test and I told him I was going to use hcg at 250iu's 2x weekly. He wanted me to use just the test first to get that dialed in. Once I added in the hcg I didnt want to wait for my nuts to recover so I did a low dose blast and it worked. My reason not to to a high dose blast was to keep aromatization to a minimum.

 

[Digitalash]

Haha already talked to the doc about TRT! My test is in normal range so they wouldnt even think about it, especially at my age

if you need it that's not gonna stop you bro, plenty of guys do it themselves