If your insurance allowed it, would you be a regular in the office? I did about 2 months with a chiro and it was amazing! I am hoping that my new doc which I see tomorrow will put in a word...
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I thought about going to the chiropractor but I've heard nothing but bad news about them. My one buddy had whiplash real bad from a hard helo landing and was seeing a military chiro. He said he would feel good for a few days, then would it would go back to being painful. He said a Chiro works, but it's only temporary, you have to KEEP going for results. He finally saw a neck specialist and they have him some cortizone shots in his neck. (I think that's what it was)
The last move I think is illegal in 15 states. lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWbzw8hObVs
The last move I think is illegal in 15 states. lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWbzw8hObVs
Yeah I'm hoping to get a referral off base if possible.
Just watched the video! That's some crazy ninja chiro right there! Lol!
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Cortisone shots might take the pain away but it will do nothing to correct what is wrong with your friends neck. According to my Doc cortisone shots through continual use will destroy the surrounding tissue, "bone, cartilage, ligaments, and the muscles." I will take a chiro any day over that mess.
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Find a chiro who uses physical therapy modalities, or better yet, a real physical therapist.
That is interesting ex, whenever I think PT I think rehab. What are your thoughts on a good sports massage?
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I'm not too familiar w the research on massage, but I would prefer that to having my spine adjusted every week. I'm just skeptical of the claim by chiros that all disease is caused by spinal subluxations and curing them is as simple as adjusting the vertebrae.
Lol! I got that speech when i first went in to my old chiro, but then he ventured to tell me he has cured ED with his practices. I mean he did wonders for my lower back, slim not going to bash him to much...ha ha!
Ex.phys. is the only person I know who holds PT's in higher esteem than Doctors of Chiropractic. Probably has to do with the fact that he went into the exercise sciences instead of the real sciences.
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Lol
Physical therapists are now required to get their doctorate as well, so actually they're both doctors...
There is zero evidence that diseases are caused by spinal subluxations.
Physical therapists are now required to get their doctorate as well, so actually they're both doctors...
There is zero evidence that diseases are caused by spinal subluxations.
My buddy is a PT, and loves the juice! Ha ha!
I've seen a chiro in conjunction w/ a really good massage therapist to deal w/ some over-time injuries I've had and its a friggen miracle sometimes. Its sort of like a good warm up and post-training stretch - its part of the 'maintenance'. I dont' know that I'd recommend going just to go, but I do notice I really like getting adjusted every couple months anyway. If I'm training more regularly, I tend to go w/ my massage therapist and follow up w/ the chiro. I do strongly recommend going w/ a chiro + massage combo if you can because the chiro is basically pushing your bones a certain way to counter where they've been pushed by the state of your muscles, tendons, stress levels, etc. You need the muscles to support the chiro-driven change. And while you're at it, the massage may go a long way towards relieving any unusually strong imbalances due to stress or whatever.
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Love chiro.
Had incredible pain in my neck that radiated to my shoulder. No idea what caused it but it kept getting worse and worse. Saw an ad in a local coupon clipper magazine for a free visit to an area practice.
The chiro did the adjustment and the pain went away as if someone had flipped a switch. Gone. Fixed. I couldn't believe it.
Was always skeptical of the practice as something akin to witch doctoring, but it proved legit for me. Shame I had to be in incredible pain to finally take advantage of chiropractic.
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I actually have better response over the times with massage therapy; then that of a chiropractor. I think, I am one that tends to like deep tissue massage and find that having a smaller area worked on for a longer time has longer affect for easement with my pain or stress on my muscles.
My ape man is very good and is one that loves to work through even the smallest knots, as he has been practicing for over 27 years and is from Florida and graduated from Florida college for Craniosacral work. I am believer of good workers, but seem to find more and more professing to be good, but only into for the money. More shady Chiropractors then that of massage therapist. I had a couple times over 20 years ago met up with those that claimed to be great massage therapist only to find them a load of crap; I asked for deep tissue, but ended up with a GD Swedish! Go figure!
Rolfing another form of massage therapy is a goodie, but again this is deep or hard core and may be too much pain for gain for some. Look for a good one that is all I can say.
My ape man is very good and is one that loves to work through even the smallest knots, as he has been practicing for over 27 years and is from Florida and graduated from Florida college for Craniosacral work. I am believer of good workers, but seem to find more and more professing to be good, but only into for the money. More shady Chiropractors then that of massage therapist. I had a couple times over 20 years ago met up with those that claimed to be great massage therapist only to find them a load of crap; I asked for deep tissue, but ended up with a GD Swedish! Go figure!
Rolfing another form of massage therapy is a goodie, but again this is deep or hard core and may be too much pain for gain for some. Look for a good one that is all I can say.
I feel they both go hand in hand. If you can get (afford) regular massage, go for it. But the adjustments I find, unless there's really something out of whack, are good maintenance, maybe every month or so. I find my hips tend to rotate a bit over time and it becomes apparent if I'm laying down and my feet aren't lineing up at the same level - one hip is probably cocked up a little. Over time this can induce other issues, e.g. ankle, knee, hip, IT band, etc. But ideally I'm always getting a massage in conjunction w/ the adjustment, specifically to get the muscles to support and persist the adjustment instead of just having your bones jammed a certain way and leaving it at that. If the muscles pulled the bones to where they are, what make you think they won't continue doing it after the adjustment? And then you're just back where you started.
Even if I'm not able to do a full massage, one thing I love about my chiro is he has a guy do a short massage to 'warm up' to the adjustment anyway.
Even if I'm not able to do a full massage, one thing I love about my chiro is he has a guy do a short massage to 'warm up' to the adjustment anyway.
no, not unless I were having back issues, otherwise I see no need for it.
Yeah I've struggled with lower back issues for a while now. But I've found that increasing my flexabilty helped calm the sensations a bit. They come and go randomly, it's frustrating at times, especially when I really want to burn off all my kids energy before bed playing.
Went to the doc today for labs, asked his opinion and he pretty much said his faith is chiropractic practices is low. So he is going to set me up with something else. Kind of excited what becomes of it...
Went to the doc today for labs, asked his opinion and he pretty much said his faith is chiropractic practices is low. So he is going to set me up with something else. Kind of excited what becomes of it...
Thats not a view that the majority of chiropractors old. Only those who graduate from the so called "straight colleges of chiropractic" generally tend to peddle this. The otherchiro science based institutions laugh at this philosophy. And they actually take more credit hours in school than an MD does.
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My PCP is a DO.. so I usually have him straighten me out once or twice a month.
Again, sorry I have to reply again. The efficacy of chiropractic does not stand or fall with the question, "is all disease caused by subluxations" because, as I have stated, the great majority of chiropractors do not hold this view. It was the traditional view of chiropractics at its origin and for sometime thereafter and is still peddle by a certain class of chiros who used this as their base philosophies. But whether or not all disease is caused by subluxations or not are completely irrelevant in answering wether or not a Chiro can help you. The fact is that many patients who get seen by chiros do not even get adjusted, they proceed with other avenues of treatment. or use manipulative therapy as an adjunct tho their treatments. Now, of course, subluxations are not the cause of all disease. It does not matter. The fact is is that there is literature in the studies backing the effectiveness of manipulative therapy.......in particular with regards to its use in chronic back pain. Studies have also shown that people, as a whole, are happier with chiropractic care then with traditional care.
Lastly, PT's may recieve a Doctorate, and therefore are technically considered "Doctors"........well so are those with a PHD in English. PT's cannot legally diagnose a patient with any condition like chiros, md's, and osteopaths can......they have to work through referall from their MD's.
Bottom line is......know what your chiropracters philosophy is.
Lastly......I plan on posting back here later to post a lot of the literature which I have read supporting the efficacy of Manipulative therapy. However, it is important to remember that Manipulative therapy should only be a small piece of the pie with regards to your chiropractic care. He/or she should be relaxing tight musculature through post-isometric relaxation stretching, and strengthening protocol to bring up weak or inhibited muscle groups along with breathing dynamics. This is where the research is. Research has drawn CLEAR conclusions about the predictive value of those with functional defeciets whom suffer from pain
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Excellent post. I don't disagree with anything here. I have actually been to a great chiro before, but he didn't crack my back. I was having neck problems and went to one who wanted me to come back every week and get adjusted. she even said one of my vertebrae were out of line. I went to the good chiro and he said there was nothing wrong with my vertebrae. He used stretching and massage and then instructed me to do some exercises that strengthen my neck. It solved the problem in less than a month, with that one visit.
I think you're correct that those views are old school and most medical professionals laugh at the idea of vertebrae subluxations causing disease, but sometimes you have to go thru a few chiros before you find one that uses physical therapy modalities. Why not just go to a PT in the first place?
I don't doubt that many chiros are very effective, but I would argue that for the most part, they are effective when they use physical therapy (With a few problems being corrected with spinal manipulations). PT's use adjustments too, just not as often as chiros.
Chiros are kind of like mormons. They're really good people, but they're really embarrased to discuss the origins of their group and try to distance themselves from it as much as possible.
I tried chiropracty...and I dunno, it didn't seem all that effective to me. It helped ease some pain on my lower back, but the pain returned as soon as it left.
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Chiro's are not "doctors" either. They do not hold a medical license, they cannot write prescriptions, etc etc.
The fact that chiropractic was invented by a magnetic healer should give you all the information you need to know.
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