Proposed cutting cycle

[hill450]

Hey guys getting ready to start pct on my first test e cycle. Made good gains and it was kickass but all you fucks posting pictures looking all jerked is making me realize I'm fucking fat. I would love to walk around at 10-11% bf year round and not 15-16%. I'm going to start slowly cutting again after pct then do this cutting cycle in the fall. I know I've got my bulkers and cutters screwed up...maybe I'll do a lean bulker in the spring so I'm not fat come summer again lol anyway here it is. New substances for me but I think I can handle it. I want full abs, wicked vascularity, and no fucking love handles whatsoever. I know I'll need a good diet and cardio.

1-5 Test prop 100mg eod
1-7 Test cyp 600mg/week
7-14 Test cyp 750mg/week
8-14 Tren A 50mg ed or 100mg eod depending on sides/mood
12-16 Winny 50mg ed?
1-14 Exemestane 12.5mg ed
8-14 Caber .5mg ed? don't know much about caber or hell a good place to even get it

HCG 1-14 500iu 2x/week and blast 3000iu/week 14-16

PCT
Exemestane 12.5mg ed
Clomid 100/75/50/50

What you guys think? I know its a ways off but I need to make sure I have everything before hand. I'm excited!

Thanks in advance for any advice!

EDIT: forgot stats
23
6'2"
243
15-16%
6 years + serious lifting

 

[Digitalash]

overcomplicated imo, pick a test ester and stick with it. I'm not a fan of winny personally and unless tren sides get you bad you probably won't need anything else. Keep it simple IMO,

50-75mg test prop and tren ace ED
Ai of your choice
DIET

pct

done

 

[hill450]

Damnit you really did just simplify the shit out that! So you're suggesting 14 weeks of t prop and tren a? Thats a ton of pinning is my only concern there and i don't know if I should run tren that long for my first time with it. I just plan to run the prop as a kicker and the test cyp cuz i'm going to brew some soon. I want to get lean enough before so I can slin pin everything if I'm going to be doing that much. Never slin pinned gear either. Gonna learn a lot here on this one

Also, I thought caber was mandatory with tren?

 

[Digitalash]

derp yes I forgot to add caber, my bad

If you're running all short esters though you won't need to go 14 weeks, 8-10 sounds fine to me. Also yes slin pins are awesome, get some regular syringes too and preload a few days worth of the slins. I pin quads with 1/2" with no issues, and my bodyfat is not amazingly low (13ish?). I may just store less fat there than most though I have no idea. Anyway with slin pins it's a breeze, you don't even feel em

Tren has some fat loss effects on it's own but really it's main benefit is that it'll allow you to maintain muscle in a steep caloric deficit. Meaning it really just gives you the freedom to diet even harder

 

[Digitalash]

If you really like the longer cycle then that's fine, prop kickstart and run the test for a while, add tren the last 8 weeks. You can drop your test a little lower when you start the tren as some guys believe lower test negates some of the side effects of the tren, also everyday pinning helps as well.

 

[hill450]

Hmm giving me something to think about. Would I run the caber .5mg ed with tren though? I know the gear alone isn't going to cut me up but like you said I can diet a lot harder. Not to mention I'll feel "on" the whole time and I'm sure tren is a lot of fun..hopefully I don't get bad sides. It might be good to just do all short esters that way I'm in the cutting mind set the entire time. So maybe something like 80-90mg prop ed and 50mg tren a ed for 10 weeks? So much pinning lol I'm not sure I'd mind though. Would I really need to run the aromasin ed? I see a lot of guys running it every other or every 3rd

 

[hill450]

Bump bump really just want to know the caber dose with tren and if I have to run AI ed like I did this last cycle. I may go all short esters or mixed ill decide later. Any advice?

 

[RockShawn]

overcomplicated imo, pick a test ester and stick with it. I'm not a fan of winny personally and unless tren sides get you bad you probably won't need anything else. Keep it simple IMO,

50-75mg test prop and tren ace ED
Ai of your choice
DIET

pct

done

I like this^^

 

[hill450]

Yea I may do that just don't know how much caber to run. I have no experience with it

 

[trackstar19]

.5mg of caber e3d is usually more than enough (it has about a 3 day half life).

 

[hill450]

Thank you man, I appreciate it!

 

[hill450]

1-5 Test prop 100mg eod
1-7 Test cyp 600mg/week
7-14 Test cyp 750mg/week
8-14 Tren A 50mg ed or 100mg eod depending on sides/mood
12-16 Winny 50mg ed - maybe I don't know whether I'll add it or not, I don't compete or anything so might leave out
1-14 Exemestane 12.5mg eod
8-14 Caber .5mg e3d? IF SOMEONE WOULD PM ME A GOOD SOURCE FOR THIS THATD BE COOL

OR

1-10 90mg Tprop and 50mg tren a ed

and then the rest the same minus the test c

something to think about and may shorten the first cycle a bit if I decide to do it

Thanks for the help guys!

 

[Digitalash]

manpower research has caber

As far as dosing aromasin ED or EOD, it has a short half life so one would think ED would be best. Because it is suicidal and permanently binds with each aromatase enzyme deactivating it, and because regenerating your body's levels of aromatase can take a while it can be dosed less frequently than the half life would lead you to believe. That is my understanding at least and holds true with formestane as well. A-dex/letro on the other hand stay in the body for a while so naturally can be dosed less frequently. With that said I don't see the reason not to just split the dose and take it every day just to keep things stable

 

[hill450]

Ok digital I got to thinking and it was adex that I had seen dosed that way. Ill check out manpower. Thanks

 

[hill450]

Hey, got to thinking. How much aromasin would one really need on like 200-250mg test prop a week? Could I just wait till my nips to get itchy then start it? Anyway what would the dose be at that low of test? Also will be running tren a at 350mg a week to begin then up it if I want.

 

[XYZ]

Hey guys getting ready to start pct on my first test e cycle. Made good gains and it was kickass but all you fucks posting pictures looking all jerked is making me realize I'm fucking fat. I would love to walk around at 10-11% bf year round and not 15-16%. I'm going to start slowly cutting again after pct then do this cutting cycle in the fall. I know I've got my bulkers and cutters screwed up...maybe I'll do a lean bulker in the spring so I'm not fat come summer again lol anyway here it is. New substances for me but I think I can handle it. I want full abs, wicked vascularity, and no fucking love handles whatsoever. I know I'll need a good diet and cardio.

1-5 Test prop 100mg eod
1-7 Test cyp 600mg/week
7-14 Test cyp 750mg/week
8-14 Tren A 50mg ed or 100mg eod depending on sides/mood
12-16 Winny 50mg ed?
1-14 Exemestane 12.5mg ed
8-14 Caber .5mg ed? don't know much about caber or hell a good place to even get it

HCG 1-14 500iu 2x/week and blast 3000iu/week 14-16

PCT
Exemestane 12.5mg ed
Clomid 100/75/50/50

What you guys think? I know its a ways off but I need to make sure I have everything before hand. I'm excited!

Thanks in advance for any advice!

EDIT: forgot stats
23
6'2"
243
15-16%
6 years + serious lifting

That's fine but all of the different test esters is kind of overkill in my mind.

I would also suggest trying to drop a few more lbs before starting, 99.9% of guys guess their bodyfat way too low.

Diet will make or break you, hire someone and do it right, guessing is a sure fire way to fail.

Good luck.

 

[hill450]

So aromasin should still be at like 12.5mg each day? But yea I'm not doing that cycle I posted in the beginning. I'm going to do prop and tren for 10 weeks and run the test a little longer. Just was curious if aromasin should be at regular dose or lower since my test will be pretty damn low during this cycle. And I'm not going to start this cycle until september or so so I can lean out some before it.