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Formeron LOG!!!

Thanks guys... I ordered two bottles yesterday.
Hopefully they come quick since I'm in Canada.

Question 1: Would you say this is safe for my GF to use too?
She is down to 17% BF and wants to drop the added
water weight.

Question 2: How long should tightness and vacularity
last after completed. With continued clean eating and
training hard?
 
With women there are a few things to consider.
Its gonna lower her estrogen levels
its mildly anabolic.
So you could stop her menstrual cycle and feel not so great
She could also develop hair in unwanted places and enlarging of the clitoris....deepening of the voice.
This is the same for pretty much anything anabolic/androgenic

It has been studied extensively in women because it was a breast cancer medication.
Safety rating is very good.
Potential sides....up to you if you want to risk em.
Shes not gonna grow a beard after a couple weeks on formeron though.
 
Hmmmm... Don't think I will introduce to her then. She just started ECA stack so we'll see how that goes for next 30-45 days.

What's ur thoughts / insights on question 2?
 
Itll vary from person to person so there is no 100% answer.
Id expect you to stay that way at least for a couple weeks + Formeron is a suicidal AI so the enzyme will take a while to come back.
Since your enzymes will be low your estro will remain low as well.
 
Hmmm interesting...

If my photoshoot is in 30 days.. and using this.. When do you guys think I should stop daily Creatine prior to shoot?
 
Im not sure.
I think 2 weeks will be more than safe.
I dont know how long creating stays in your system but I dont think its very long.
Either way creatine bloats most people so its not gonna help any.
 
Thank you... One final question. If I use Formeron and shred down to ideal ideal size and then use 1 pump as a daily maintence will that also maintain results long term.

I've seen you post about taking it no longer then 6-8 weeks and then break for a bit and also that this was given to patients long term with no problems or sides?

Johny B
 
The second is a better approximation of the truth.
Formeron is not like running testosterone for example. With testosterone youll eventually get less and less out of the increased dose over time as well as make recovery harder and less likely.
Formeron, can be used as a PCT drug. It will increase testosterone and lower estrogen.
I am not aware of any tolerance that will develop over time.
I am aware of studies where the active ingredient was used safely for years with basically only injection site pain and irritation as a side effect.
Since Formeron is a transdermal we dont have to worry about this.
So...run it as long as you like but be sensible. Take breaks. Having your estrogen levels super low for long periods of time can be unhealthy.
 
Thank you kindly brundel. I do plan on running Super-DMZ Mass Stack w/ Formeron Stack in the fall
 
Good to see you back on the board Mr. Brundel! I'm winding down on my first can of formeron and let me say - this stuff works! I'm doing only on pump eod, and it completely got rid of my bloat and got my "stuff" working if I may say even better than in a long time!
 
fatsopower said:
Good to see you back on the board Mr. Brundel! I'm winding down on my first can of formeron and let me say - this stuff works! I'm doing only on pump eod, and it completely got rid of my bloat and got my "stuff" working if I may say even better than in a long time!
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Very excited for my two bottles to arrive now. I just finished my weekly body fat measurements and down to 8.24% BF. Very curious what 30 more days and Formeron will do to these numbers. Also on ECA stack to so should be able to see some good numbers since my diet is very strict and solid.

Johny B
 
fatsopower said:
Good to see you back on the board Mr. Brundel! I'm winding down on my first can of formeron and let me say - this stuff works! I'm doing only on pump eod, and it completely got rid of my bloat and got my "stuff" working if I may say even better than in a long time!
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Thanks brother.
Im at home and recovering quickly.
I really love the Formeron and Im glad others are able to get to use it. I used to get so excited when we would make a batch..before Black Lion...
I would have all my friends and their friends calling and texting ..waiting for it to be done.
1 pump eod is a great dose for every day use. Really cranks up libido and dries you out.
 
Johnyb said:
Very excited for my two bottles to arrive now. I just finished my weekly body fat measurements and down to 8.24% BF. Very curious what 30 more days and Formeron will do to these numbers. Also on ECA stack to so should be able to see some good numbers since my diet is very strict and solid.

Johny B
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I didnt know you were at that low %.
Your gonna REALLY like this stuff.
Because your leaner, youll see some cool stuff happen. Kinda like Masteron the lower bf% the more you visually see.
Youll get hardening, drying, vascularity, strength. Pretty cool.
 
Bro you're getting me even more excited to try this. I've been completely natural whole life. Prepping for first cycle in fall.

See my first post here: http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/a...er-dmz-mass-stack-w-formeron.html#post2796588

Do you think after 30 days, dropping daily Creatine and running 2 pumps daily that I could drop down to around 5-6%. If I can I think my photoshoot will be great.

Naturally I find getting down these last few pounds of fat is just as hard as losing the larger amount. I find now I am losing about 0.4 - 0.7 lbs fat per week now which I am fine with.

Johny B
 
I think itll make you look different.
The bf% thing is diet and cardio related.
The Formeron will make the overall package look different though.
Youll see what I mean after you have been using it for a week or two.

A couple years ago when I was using this stuff only on myself I ran a test suspension and Formestane cycle....
I swear it was one of my best cycles.
I was getting so much estro from the suspension that I really cranked up the dose and man......Even on the suspension I was just rock hard.
Just a sick one...Felt so strong.....
 
Glad to hear your recovering well. brundel


Since you know this stuff best, IYO, do you think I should start this on day one with the 30days of 75-100mg of Helladrol and the Halotestin 15mg(only for preWOs no longer than 30days) ?
OR
I was thinking of starting it on week 2 that way it way it'll contiune an extra 2 weeks after the 4weeks of clomid pct, kinda like a way to taper off as my body starts to be come more homeostatic.

Thoughts?

Thanks.
 
brundel said:
The issue with Arimidex is once you stop using it there is potential for a bunch of the aromatase enzyme to be released which will cause a big spike in your estro levels....really we NEVER want this.

In contrast, Formeron, is a "suicidal AI" meaning there is no potential for this spike because it binds to the enzyme and forever renders it inactive.
So once estro is managed with FOrmeron you can back off to 1pump ed or eve 1 pump eod and keep it low because it takes a while for the aromatase enzyme to work its way back up.
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WOW! You hit this right...I had been taking 1mg of Adex for weeks and then at the advice of a friend I backed off to .05eod, but he said just go 3 days without first then do the .05 eod. Well shit, my estro went through the roof as I was hitting 900mg of test. I immediately upped the AI to 1mg, then to 2mg cuase my nips were getting sore. As of today I took 1mg of adex and 40mg of Nolv and will do the same tomorrow. Things are getting better, but I hate this shit (worrying about gyno). Long story longer, I ordered Formeron today and look forward to the benefits everyone is talking about. I dropped down to 600mg of test and would like to up it again before this cycle ends in 5 weeks.

Gyno is from satan!
 
TJTJ said:
Glad to hear your recovering well. brundel


Since you know this stuff best, IYO, do you think I should start this on day one with the 30days of 75-100mg of Helladrol and the Halotestin 15mg(only for preWOs no longer than 30days) ?
OR
I was thinking of starting it on week 2 that way it way it'll contiune an extra 2 weeks after the 4weeks of clomid pct, kinda like a way to taper off as my body starts to be come more homeostatic.

Thoughts?

Thanks.
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Its really up to you but because Formeron is also a prohormone it will give you some added boost post PCT so....Its not a bad idea at all.
Halodrol (helladrol) can cause some pretty severe delayed gyno. Im not 100% certain why but if its caused by estro extending the Formeron beyond PCT will prevent it.
 
Lang said:
WOW! You hit this right...I had been taking 1mg of Adex for weeks and then at the advice of a friend I backed off to .05eod, but he said just go 3 days without first then do the .05 eod. Well shit, my estro went through the roof as I was hitting 900mg of test. I immediately upped the AI to 1mg, then to 2mg cuase my nips were getting sore. As of today I took 1mg of adex and 40mg of Nolv and will do the same tomorrow. Things are getting better, but I hate this shit (worrying about gyno). Long story longer, I ordered Formeron today and look forward to the benefits everyone is talking about. I dropped down to 600mg of test and would like to up it again before this cycle ends in 5 weeks.

Gyno is from satan!
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Yah....gyno really sucks.
If you have real nolva it wont be long before its gone.
2mg daily is a high dose of arimidex.
I think the 1mg + the nolva will be enough. I had pretty wicked gyno once and 20mg nolva ed for 2 weeks completely got rid of it.
I also discontinued the drug responsible though.

Once you have gyno....Use nolva.
Ideally you prevent it from happening by keeping on your AI.
Again one of the negatives of arimidex is that it can give you a big estro burst right after PCT which is terrible.
 
brundel said:
Yah....gyno really sucks.
If you have real nolva it wont be long before its gone.
2mg daily is a high dose of arimidex.
I think the 1mg + the nolva will be enough. I had pretty wicked gyno once and 20mg nolva ed for 2 weeks completely got rid of it.
I also discontinued the drug responsible though.

Once you have gyno....Use nolva.
Ideally you prevent it from happening by keeping on your AI.
Again one of the negatives of arimidex is that it can give you a big estro burst right after PCT which is terrible.
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Brundel....I hit 40 mg of Nolva and 2mg of Adex yesterday, woke up this morn with no sensitivity in the ol'nips! I took 1mg of Adex (from a different lot# than the original Adex) and another 40mg of Nolva. I'll taper down to 20mg of Nolva until my Formeron gets here. Looking forward to something that works so I can start to run this gear without the anxiety of sides.
 
Using 2 pumps daily on cycle. Love it.

Have clomid for pct. Is it even necessary to use clomid with formeron for pct?
 
Brundel my order just arrived 10 min ago. Took about a week to
arrive but that is okay.

First impressions the smell is actually not bad. Almost smells like a
not to bad aftershave or cologne.

Secondly it dries very quickly which is nice and you can feel a tinkling
sensation in your forearms shortly there after and even as I am typing.

To excited to wait till after my workout shower later today I put
some on right away. Since I will be doing do 2X doses daily as you
mentioned. I will do one in the mornings and maybe second
time closer to bed time.

For a better understanding of the product. How long does it last
on your skin or maybe better question is what is the soonest time
one would wash their forearms after use.

Would just like to know in case for whatever reason I need to
wash shortly after applying. I am assuming the longer the better
and that there may not be any correct time.

Johny B
 
The longer the better. It can absorb over up to 12 hours. Most of it goes through pretty fast though. Leave it on as long as possible for best results. If you gotta wash your application site just do it.
 
just ordered some today from TGB to go along with my 500mg/week test e and anavar. I'll keep everyone posted. As for now I just entered week 3 for the test and have slight nipple sensitivity and retaining water throughout my body. I have adex on hand and started taking a very mild dose to help combat the sides but really want to give the Formeron a go.
 
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