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Election 2012

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I'm sure the Jon Lovitz's of the world pay their taxes, it's the Mitt Romney's that are the problem.
 
Well to keep the american idealogy going, I'm voting against my interests and voting mormon.

Dupes!
 
I'm sure the Jon Lovitz's of the world pay their taxes, it's the Mitt Romney's that are the problem.
And the "people" like IBM, don't forget guys like him!
 
I just find this entire upcoming election to be depressing. What choices do we have...We have a lying slithery piece of crap running against a lying slithery piece of crap. Neither one of them gives a rats ass about anyone who cannot "pay to play" thus they only represent the richest special interests.

Oh how I am dreaming of a HUGH upset at the Rep convention. "Ron Paul Shocks The World. Takes Nomination Away From Mittens" :daydream:
 
First, I want to say I am not a Mitt Romney fan, but He paid roughly 14% taxes on his capital gains revenue(money he has already paid taxes on once) However, Barack Hussein paid under 21%, he claimed a 3K loss (yearly max) via capital gains. An average American pays about 29% of earned income in taxes, so who is really paying their "fair share"??:clapping:
 
I just find this entire upcoming election to be depressing. What choices do we have...We have a lying slithery piece of crap running against a lying slithery piece of crap. Neither one of them gives a rats ass about anyone who cannot "pay to play" thus they only represent the richest special interests.

Oh how I am dreaming of a HUGH upset at the Rep convention. "Ron Paul Shocks The World. Takes Nomination Away From Mittens" :daydream:

as they stated on South Park a douche bag vs a turd sandwich. that's the 2 party system we have in the US
 
I just find this entire upcoming election to be depressing. What choices do we have...We have a lying slithery piece of crap running against a lying slithery piece of crap. Neither one of them gives a rats ass about anyone who cannot "pay to play" thus they only represent the richest special interests.

Oh how I am dreaming of a HUGH upset at the Rep convention. "Ron Paul Shocks The World. Takes Nomination Away From Mittens" :daydream:

I agree but I'm disappointed in the people almost as much as the GOP. I always hear people whine about shitty politicians getting elected but after this GOP race I don't buy it. They're going to elect Romney as the GOP nominee who is the most slithery of the bunch just because the establishment told them to. The people say they're tired of the status quo but that's exactly who they vote for. I can't even remember hearing anyone say "Romney is exactly what this country needs, he's my ideal candidate": it's always "well he's not as bad as Obama".
 
First, I want to say I am not a Mitt Romney fan, but He paid roughly 14% taxes on his capital gains revenue(money he has already paid taxes on once) However, Barack Hussein paid under 21%, he claimed a 3K loss (yearly max) via capital gains. An average American pays about 29% of earned income in taxes, so who is really paying their "fair share"??:clapping:

Nice strawman argument. Romney isn't paying taxes on the money he already made, he's paying taxes on the profit he makes from it. In other words, he's not paying taxes twice on the same money, he's paying taxes on that money, reinvesting it, and then getting taxed on any profit he makes from that money. Nice try. It's hilarious how people will talk like they're an authority on something they don't even understand.
 
It's hilarious how people will talk like they're an authority on something they don't even understand.

what do you expect when they don't even understand how inflation effects purchasing power or the direct correlation that wages/income has on taxes and with the ability to create wealth which then in turn effects consumption. in terms of economic intelligence the US ranks at the bottom of the OECD, which is painfully obvious.
 
Yeah, I am probably voting Obama unless Paul runs. My vote won't be for Obama so mch as against Romney. IMO, our primary problem is income inequality and Romney will only make it worse, Obama will do nothing but that's better than regressing further.

The difference between Obama and Paul are totally different. How can u go from Paul to Obama? I don't get it. What about the libertarian candidate Gary Johnson? He's more like Paul.
 
Nice strawman argument. Romney isn't paying taxes on the money he already made, he's paying taxes on the profit he makes from it. In other words, he's not paying taxes twice on the same money, he's paying taxes on that money, reinvesting it, and then getting taxed on any profit he makes from that money. Nice try. It's hilarious how people will talk like they're an authority on something they don't even understand.

I stated in correctly, MR paid taxes (at some point) on his initial earned income prior to him investing it, which wasn't my point in the first place, MR paid his share of taxes from capital gains, BHO paid 8 points less than the average American, while claiming a loss of 3K in capital gains was my point. Furthermore, I don't care to change your way of thinking or what you believe, or who you back politically, understand that. Ron Paul is my candidate of choice, not MR.
 
The difference between Obama and Paul are totally different. How can u go from Paul to Obama? I don't get it. What about the libertarian candidate Gary Johnson? He's more like Paul.

I'm not voting for Obama, I'm voting to make sure Romney gets nowhere near the presidency.

I stated in correctly, MR paid taxes (at some point) on his initial earned income prior to him investing it, which wasn't my point in the first place, MR paid his share of taxes from capital gains, BHO paid 8 points less than the average American, while claiming a loss of 3K in capital gains was my point. Furthermore, I don't care to change your way of thinking or what you believe, or who you back politically, understand that. Ron Paul is my candidate of choice, not MR.

Here's the problem...Obama paid 21% and Romney paid 14%. Both of those assholes use the roads more than me, and both sure as hell made money off of public education and other things our tax dollars pay for via investments. I don't care where the money came from, whether it's capital gains or not, both of those peckerheads use far more of what our tax dollars go to than me and both profit from those services, so both should be taxed more, which is why the percentage should be fixed regardless of revenue stream.
 
This shits almost worse than Bush vs. Kerry, not as bad, that one made me lose all faith in our political system for good....
 
lock, stock the effing lot

everyone is already sucked into the obama vs romney or paul,

3 months after the election everyones back on here arguing about the corruption and how the govt keeps screwing everyone to take care of corp america

make a difference, vote for the porn party, the sex workers coalition or ANYONE except dem/republican

its the same here, 2 main groups of monkeys, liberals and labour, doesnt matter who u vote for, same shit, just served with different sides

until everyone walks away from the bullshit corporate america sponsored cronies NOTHING will change,

someone register their pet dog for president, then vote the it! it will make just as much difference!
 
I just find this entire upcoming election to be depressing. What choices do we have...We have a lying slithery piece of crap running against a lying slithery piece of crap. Neither one of them gives a rats ass about anyone who cannot "pay to play" thus they only represent the richest special interests.

I feel the same way.

I've largely tuned out, but still follow in a very brief and shallow way.
 
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I'm glad I work hard and make good money so Mr. Romney will take care of me. All of this BS about presidential taxes, who cares? Do you think George Washington had 10000x more money than the average american? Fuck yeah he did. Lincoln? Yep. Roosevelt, Kennedy, none of our presidents are "ordinary" citizens.

I don't want a poor guy running my country. I want the richest, most aggressive motherfucker I can find. They take you places while the poor fucks sit around and bitch.

We didn't ger here being a country of "equals". that is the problem in america, we're all "equal". There need to be chiefs and Indians, haves and have-nots, LIKE IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN. fight your way to the top or die, not this everybody gets a trophy bs we live by now. Our country is soft and ripe and gets worse with each generation.
 
I don`t vote anymore. Its like trying to decide if you wanna get kicked in the left or right nut. Either way its going to suck
 
Gary Johnson 2012. Come on guys, it's clear we need more choices. Romney and Obama are same politician. This is a great opportunity to get the libertarian party on the same playing field.
 
I'm glad I work hard and make good money so Mr. Romney will take care of me. All of this BS about presidential taxes, who cares? Do you think George Washington had 10000x more money than the average american? Fuck yeah he did. Lincoln? Yep. Roosevelt, Kennedy, none of our presidents are "ordinary" citizens.

I don't want a poor guy running my country. I want the richest, most aggressive motherfucker I can find. They take you places while the poor fucks sit around and bitch.

Yeah GW Bush took the economy right into the toilet genius.
 
I'm not voting for Obama, I'm voting to make sure Romney gets nowhere near the presidency.



Here's the problem...Obama paid 21% and Romney paid 14%. Both of those assholes use the roads more than me, and both sure as hell made money off of public education and other things our tax dollars pay for via investments. I don't care where the money came from, whether it's capital gains or not, both of those peckerheads use far more of what our tax dollars go to than me and both profit from those services, so both should be taxed more, which is why the percentage should be fixed regardless of revenue stream.
Obama went toone of the premium private schools here in Hawaii, it costs a pretty penny to go their ($18,500 for this year).... This is where my boss went to school and his daughters, Steve Case of AOL and Pierre Omidyar of Ebay
 
Yeah GW Bush took the economy right into the toilet genius.

Not only that, but he expanded govt at an alarming rate, at the same time restricting our liberties & putting us even more in debt.
 
I'm so glad to be independent.

I've been an independent for 20+ years.

I'm so SAD to be an independent.

Because we are squeezed out legally.

Why are you glad?
 
Because we are squeezed out legally.

which is a direct reflection of the views expressed by the "unbiased" US media monopoly's. either your on the left or the right
 
Gary Johnson 2012. Come on guys, it's clear we need more choices. Romney and Obama are same politician. This is a great opportunity to get the libertarian party on the same playing field.

the powers that be killed JFK and also Patton one of the greatest strategists in world history. GJ wouldn't stand a chance at changing anything. the entire system is FUBAR and has been for a long time. do you know what it would take to reverse the bad economic policy's enacted over the past 40 years?
 
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