The Perfect Tren Cyle for Novices

[OMEGAx]

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[OMEGAx]

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[gearin up]

about to run a sos tren a cycle and Im old, first time with tren so I would be happy to review. Start date 2nd week of oct. and 12 week cycle.
sos 250mg eod
tren a 50mg eod
tren may go higher when I see how good tren and I get along to 75mg.
have caber on hand

 

[vannesb]

Is not just Test Prop + Tren
Also Pinning eod causes radical peaks and troughs in blood values and side effect like insomnia and sweat become more common.

For Best result PIN everyday

The reason Why Test + Tren is a bad cycle is because evidence shows that Test ran above HRT doses causes collagen breakdown in males.
This on top of the radical strength gains Tren Causes is a recipe for injury disaster.

So the logical idea is to run Deca right?
WRONG Deca ran with Tren will cause you to grow boobies that no AI will help.

So we have 3 options to solve this riddle to strengthen collegen and your body to grow safely along side your Test and Tren and create the perfect Tren cycle.

1 Anavar
2 HGH
3 Equipoise

I personally favor Anavar since its an oral and works right away ( bio-availability immediately) to piggy back unto the fast acting Prop and Tren Ace your using anyway.

Where to get this cycle?
Here!:

4 packages OX Orals - OXANDROLONE (Anavar) - 10mg/tab 50 Tabs Euro-Pharmacies

4 bottle Tren Ace UGL Injectables - Trenbolone Acetate - 100mg/ml 10ml/vial EP UGL

4 bottle Test Prop UGL Injectables - Testosterone Propionate - 100mg/ml 10ml/vial EP UGL

Run 60 mgs a day of Test Prop
Run 60 mgs a day of Tren Ace
Run 30 mgs a day of Var

All for roughly 70 days

Nice bro! I am of course a big deca fan! However I would NEVER run Tren and Deca together!!!

 

[Roughneck_91]

This is a great thread since it opens up some intelligent discussion.

I believe it is important to consider the significant differences between in vitro analysis data and empirical evidence. For example, how many here would advocate Winny for joint health? Probably none. But why not? There are plenty of studies indicating Stanozolol's positive effects on collagen:

Stimulation of Collagen Synthesis by the Anabolic Steroid Stanozolol

Changes in plasma osteocalcin concentration following treatment with stanozolol

The use of Stanozolol for the preparation of anti-inflammatory and anti-degenerative drugs

Also, and this might be splitting hairs (sorry Omega), but since this thread is for novices, the concern for joint damage caused by extensive long-term AAS use would be irrelevant (since they're novices).

The main concern for all trainers, at all times, should be tendon health. Some evidence suggests that every AAS has a negative effect on tendon elasticity (to varying degrees). This, in combination with exponential increases in skeletal muscle strength, greatly increases the risk of injury as the connective tissue becomes the weakest link.

I'm very passionate about joint health as some of you may know, since I have had a couple surgeries on one of my knees (from military service NOT bodybuilding). The following are either my current practices or theories:

Nutrition - Since going primal, I have never been healthier. I am truly starting to believe that the preservatives found in most of the commercially available foods are negative to our health and at a genetic level. I know most here are probably already making excellent decisions regarding the foods you eat. But do me a favor, next time your at a chain grocery store, compare some labels from national brands to organic labels. The less shit listed in the ingredients the better IMO.

Resisting Excessive Load Progression - As I've gotten older, I've learned to train smarter, I'm sure a lot of the old fucks here (HEAVYIRON) would agree. Just because your on cycle and can lift 100lbs more than normally doesn't mean you should. Sure, we all grab a little extra weight when there is a hot piece of trim in tights doing bent rows right next to us, but that is completely different than going in there every workout and smashing huge weights. Just look at Dorian, and he was a pro with anything he wanted or needed at his disposal, INCLUDING rest. Personally, I prefer using the Weider Training Principles (hahaha, A.K.A the shit Joe took from real bodybuilders and slapped his name and trademark on) when on cycle, mass or cut, as opposed to just lifting heavier weight.

Human Growth Hormone - As Omega has previously stated, there is plenty evidence suggesting it's benefits and applications towards joint health.

EPO - Now this is an interesting theory that has emerged in the medical community fairly recently and is subject to a couple different patents:

ERYTHROPOIETIN AND FIBRONECTIN COMPOSITIONS FOR BONE REGENERATION

Essentially, the biggest factor in preventing connective tissue repair and maintenance is blood flow. Simply put, collagen receives little nutrients due to the reduction in capillary size and quantity within proximity to the joints. The idea behind using EPO is basically to maximize the amount of oxygen and nutrients in the little blood already flowing to the subject area. If I had a team of doctors to monitor my hematocrit levels, I would definitely be using EPO myself.

Cocain's a hellofa dug

 

[renohawj]

This cycle looks good. I will have to try this on my next one. I have been contemplating on tren for a while now. I think it is time.

 

[OMEGAx]

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[clipse]

I was planning on just doing Test Prop and Anavar on my cut cycle, but now I'm tempted.

I wasn't even keen on the EOD pinning, ED pinning sounds like a pain. How many injection sites would you include in an ED pinning rotation?

 

[Wrekem]

I was planning on just doing Test Prop and Anavar on my cut cycle, but now I'm tempted.

I wasn't even keen on the EOD pinning, ED pinning sounds like a pain. How many injection sites would you include in an ED pinning rotation?

i would like to know as well, as ive only used 4 locations during bulks because of twice a week pinnings. the quads and delts. but i notice the more an area was pinned, the more used to it i got.

also, what would be the ideal weekly dosage for the test/tren? how i see it using 4- 10ml vials of 100mg per ml, youre looking at 4000/10 weeks, so 400 a week, which would mean 400/7 days, youd be safe at 50mg a day, i feel is an acceptable dose. running 60 would leave you falling short juuuust a tad. i suck at math...so anyone wanna chime in on that for me? lol

 

[OMEGAx]

lol

 

[OMEGAx]

for many ED is night and day better vs EOD, while others no difference

 

[Wrekem]

for many ED is night and day better vs EOD, while others no difference

id rather do it ed. eod means your hitting every week differently by doing 3 pins a week half the cycle and 4 pins a week for other half. which leaves you off for your ending week total. you'd end up with 300mg one week and then hitting 400mg the next. ed just seems easier for end result.

 

[clipse]

ooooh i miscalculated! this is the 10 week run

Run 60 mgs a day of Test Prop
Run 60 mgs a day of Tren Ace
Run 30 mgs a day of Var

is there any issue with running 60mg anavar anyways? I was originally planning on running Test Prop 100 EOD for 10 or 12 weeks and Anavar 60mg ED for 8 weeks. I already have the anavar. Now you got me wanting to run the tren ace too. So is your original setup cool?

Weeks 1-10: Test Prop 60mg ED
Weeks 1-8: Tren Ace 60mg ED
Weeks 2-10: Anavar 60mg ED
Weeks 11-14: Clomid 100/100/50/50
Aromasin and hcg throughout cycle

How does that look?

 

[OMEGAx]

That would be amazing to say the least

Use Aroma Lightly as needed

 

[OMEGAx]

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[HANDSOME STRANGER]

Omega On on other board there is a guy asking for some advice on tren E cycle.. FIRST CYCLE.... My question though is what about NPP over deca.... being that is comes on faster with out all the unwanted sides of deca or at least not as profound... Just curious always wanting to learn.. I dont see tren anywhere in my near future... HAHAHA

 

[OMEGAx]

you mean Deca WITH Tren and Deca instead of Tren?

 

[HANDSOME STRANGER]

NOO using NPP with tren over DECA....

 

[OMEGAx]

Ahh Use NPP of course, it would yield great clean size BUT would not have quite the adrogenic kick of Tren or the Strength increases.............but looks wise it would be close

 

[OTG85]

I would personally stick with test for first cycle.

 

[HANDSOME STRANGER]

I would personally stick with test for first cycle.

I 100% agree ontop.. That is what I tried to tell the guy.. But my question is that NPP is very close to DECA.. If one wanted to fun tren could or would it be beneficial to run npp with it??

 

[Ryanhill]

Why is this old thread being bumped and WHY would ANYONE reccomend a novice a Tren Cycle. Con

 

[Ryanhill]

I didn't mean to say Con. What I was saying is that is completely foolish. It is like buying your 16 year old a Ferarri. Novice and Tren=Bad Idea

 

[HANDSOME STRANGER]

I didn't mean to say Con. What I was saying is that is completely foolish. It is like buying your 16 year old a Ferarri. Novice and Tren=Bad Idea

Well I would assume that it is for the novice tren user not the novice AAS user... I mean I can understand points getting lost in text sometimes.. But I am more than sure that is the point, you might want to re read it.

 

[Ryanhill]

Ok, I get it. Sorry

 

[OMEGAx]

novice = 4th or 5th cycle for me, define terms bros

 

[bull3441]

I used tren for my first cycle and don't see what the big deal of scaring people away from it. Get quality tren and start with i reasonable dose and you'll be fine. I've used tren off and on for over 10 years. I've only experienced tren cough 3 times in those 10 years and that was the same source. I wouldn't recommend it for a teen or early 20's as maturity is needed when taking gear.

 

[exphys88]

I used tren for my first cycle and don't see what the big deal of scaring people away from it. Get quality tren and start with i reasonable dose and you'll be fine. I've used tren off and on for over 10 years. I've only experienced tren cough 3 times in those 10 years and that was the same source. I wouldn't recommend it for a teen or early 20's as maturity is needed when taking gear.

Tren is not for everyone. Don't assume that because you had no probs w it, everyone else is the same. When I ran tren ace at 350 mg/week my bp shot up to 160/110, I was dizzy and had severe headaches. They wouldn't even let me give blood cause my bp was so high. Luckily, it was ace and resolved after a week of being off of it.

 

[vicious 13]

good post im glad it was bumped just what i needed to read

 

[PUMP_THAT]

Lots of good info on this thread