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juiceball44 said:
This is just not correct, for most people all they need is a hrt test dose a week and can run other compounds sky high. Not everyone is the same but to make a general statement like that is just simply false
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Speaking from persoanl experience, I know that if my ratio of test to ANY 19 nor is not 2:1, I have issues. Some can get away with it, I can't. I'm speaking from my persoanl experience, maybe you're different.

Maybe I should have explained a little better in my original post?
 
XYZ said:
Speaking from persoanl experience, I know that if my ratio of test to ANY 19 nor is not 2:1, I have issues. Some can get away with it, I can't. I'm speaking from my persoanl experience, maybe you're different.

Maybe I should have explained a little better in my original post?
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OK I agree with you on that. I like to keep test as low as possible because it just bloats me to hell and on a recomp cycle that really messes with progress. So I try to dial it in where my dick still works but bloat is minimal plus if I go to high on the test and estrogen gets to high that can also effect sex drive, so more is not always better. but basically everyone is different just gotta find your sweet spot
 
I run test at 2x the dose of tren just cause lol... I like test, prop or TNE....next to zero bloat anyway so no worries there.

You need to run more test JB, if you get bloated from it there's easy ways to fix that. Add and AI, stop eating food, don't drink water, take a diuretic!!

See how easy that was :)
 
juiceball44 said:
Didn't read it was his first time, I agree with you most should start off around 50mg ed than go up IF they can, I know of some big boys running 150-250mg ed. and to be honest I don't think most ugl tren is a legit 100mg/ml
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most isn't 100mg/ml... and most people don't realize that... it is nearly impossible for it to hold above 80mg/ml with ba/bb... using other solvents and carriers it is possible to get it higher, but some solvents and carriers are really hard on your body....
if you put it together yourself, you always know how potent it is!!!
 
This is the most ridiculous post I've seen all day. (not overburdened. XYZ about his test doses)

XYZ is obviously one of those that follows what others have told him and hates progress. I PROMISE that his statement is not based on one single bit of experience. Please, don't listen to people like him.
 
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Hate4TheWeak said:
No it's REALLY hard to get ace to hold at anything over 80mgs/ml...at least just using BA and BB seems to fuck with it. It's so easy to make the shit IDK why anyone would pay out the ass for the ugl shit but that's me..
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overburdened said:
most isn't 100mg/ml... and most people don't realize that... it is nearly impossible for it to hold above 80mg/ml with ba/bb... using other solvents and carriers it is possible to get it higher, but some solvents and carriers are really hard on your body....
if you put it together yourself, you always know how potent it is!!!
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I won already sir....
 
Hate4TheWeak said:
No it's REALLY hard to get ace to hold at anything over 80mgs/ml...at least just using BA and BB seems to fuck with it. It's so easy to make the shit IDK why anyone would pay out the ass for the ugl shit but that's me..
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Actually 100mg/ml is no problem with BA and BB alone.
 
colorado said:
This is the most ridiculous post I've seen all day. (not overburdened. XYZ about his test doses)

XYZ is obviously one of those that follows what others have told him and hates progress. I PROMISE that his statement is not based on one single bit of experience. Please, don't listen to people like him.
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Dude you obviously have no idea what you're talking about.
 
SloppyJ said:
Actually 100mg/ml is no problem with BA and BB alone.
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I just use Ba at a low dose. I put BB in it once (I use the fina conversion) and it made it turn like bright orange and it crashed. I was still able to use it but I never tried it again. I'm sure it would hold higher ahd I been using a powder and BB.... but I don't really like the idea of alot of BB.
 
Hate4TheWeak said:
I just use Ba at a low dose. I put BB in it once (I use the fina conversion) and it made it turn like bright orange and it crashed. I was still able to use it but I never tried it again. I'm sure it would hold higher ahd I been using a powder and BB.... but I don't really like the idea of alot of BB.
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BB is a standard solvent in gear. Normally the BA is 2-4% and BB is around 20%. The gear didn't crash because you added BB. That would have only helped it. It probably crashed cause it cooled down and there wasn't enough solvent in the mix.
 
SloppyJ said:
BB is a standard solvent in gear. Normally the BA is 2-4% and BB is around 20%. The gear didn't crash because you added BB. That would have only helped it. It probably crashed cause it cooled down and there wasn't enough solvent in the mix.
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spot on
 
SloppyJ said:
BB is a standard solvent in gear. Normally the BA is 2-4% and BB is around 20%. The gear didn't crash because you added BB. That would have only helped it. It probably crashed cause it cooled down and there wasn't enough solvent in the mix.
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No way dude, I made tren 20X before that with just the ba...and it was G2G so...?

I have made gallons of everything and only used BB once with TNE and then once with that shit batch of ace. Test-D, test-E, test-C all just .9%ba.. NPP, etc etc needs BB as a solvent but most tests don't need it at all. Prop and TNE being the only exceptions...
 
juiceball44 said:
This is just not correct, for most people all they need is a hrt test dose a week and can run other compounds sky high. Not everyone is the same but to make a general statement like that is just simply false
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No I would say for 80% + of people his advice was correct. Yes people are different and react different, but in general, the 2:1 advice is dead on
 
That got pretty heated ha.

So gonna start with these doses and adjust accordingly. I'll just listen to my body

Week 1-12 Test Propionate 50mg ED
Week 2-10 Tren Acetate 50mg ED
 
Only thing now is:

Can they be mixed in the same syringe (obviously using different needles to load it)? Or do I have to pin twice?
 
Can mix any oils in same syringe no problem. Take syringe draw out one than use the same needle to draw out the other one. Only need to change it after you filled it with evrrything and are ready to shot it as sticking the needle through the rubber stopper dulls it and can be a bitch to injecte with the same dull needle. Just make sure to wipe each vial clean with an alcohol pad before drawing and another alcohol pad to wipe the inject spot before injection and another to wipe it clean after injection.
 
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Hm. Sounds good. Thanks

I'm no stranger to IM injection protocol (ridiculous amounts of alcohol pads are always in my trash during cycles) haha but wasn't sure with multiple oils.
 
SloppyJ said:
If you're pinning that much anyway, go with prop. Run the test a couple weeks longer than the tren. Start the tren at 50mg ED since you've never ran tren before and wait a few weeks to bump it up. Run the prami a couple weeks longer than the tren and add aromasin to PCT.
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that right there.
 
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