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Anybody here find out they're an introvert?
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You're just an introvert man. I can tell because you're a Ron Paul supporter! Most of us seem to be introverts because we think deeply like Paul. BTW, did you hear the RNC actually admitted LEGALLY that delegates are NOT bound to vote for the candidate that won their state??? THat means Paul CAN win!!!
it has nothing to do with the RNC it has to do with Article II of the Constitution and the 12 amendment. since 1804 the electoral college has never voted against the one they had pledged to originally. one man can't change jack diddly squat, the POTUS doesn't have the power to do most of the things RP claims he wants to do, not with out Congress. anybody that fucks with the NWO ends up in a box right next to JFK.
Ron Paul's a cool guy and seems to be the genuine article, I like him and Dennis Kusinich, but they alone are not gonna change the way the whole world is stacked against the working class. Doesn't mean we should give up, or stop trying, just be realistic about the power of one politician.
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introvert checking in. So much so that it finally took this thread three pages before I decided I'd comment on it. I've been called this several times at my workplace, which in my mind meant I'm a good worker who's in my office working. I can certainly socialize well and I talk to people pleasantly, but left to my own devices I will be by myself happy and content, probably creating something or in a fantasy world I make up.
give up no, but everyone needs to be realistic about what sorts of changes would even be allowed by the powers that be. the economic system of capitalism is naturally flawed in that capital always has a marked advantage over labor. once you factor in the effects of monetary policy by a central bank and lobbying groups that seek to only benefit the "markets" the tables are titled even more in favor of capital. capitalism as it was intended to be used by Adam Smith has never occurred in reality, it has been perverted since day 1 in the early 1800's when mercantilism ended and capitalism began its rise.
the US economy of 2012 is the culmination of economic policy and social changes that have occurred over the past century. the US government at the executive level has been under the control of the international money lenders for just as long.
Shit, I always thought I was anti social....that article fit me really well. Thats kind of nice to know! thanks man!
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I'm a big time introvert as well...
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You're welcome! Man, it felt so good when I realized who I was for the first time!
I'm an introvert unless I'm on drugs.
I'm on drugs most of the time
I'm on drugs most of the time
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My middle step daughter recently saw this quote and when she sent it to me, said it immediately clicked with her what I had tried to explain before:
"Let me tell you this: If you meet a loner, no matter what they tell you, it's not because they enjoy solitude. It's because they have tried to blend into the world before, and people continue to disappoint them" - Jodi Picoult
"Let me tell you this: If you meet a loner, no matter what they tell you, it's not because they enjoy solitude. It's because they have tried to blend into the world before, and people continue to disappoint them" - Jodi Picoult
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I can kind of agree with that a bit. Big reason why I like being alone is the majority of people do continue to disappoint, but there are a few gems in the rough and if you find them, hold on to them! Lifelong relationships in my case.
Most of the people I get along with are introverts too, I do have some extrovert friends who tend to pull me out of my shell from time to time...
well i'm perfectly suited to my field and share traits with Louisa May Alcott and
Alfred, Lord Tennyson. ISFJ
Alfred, Lord Tennyson. ISFJ
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INTJ checking in.
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It is crazy this is pretty spot on ....I am with an EFNJ so we see things differently most of the time. I am not severely introverted though. I don't mind meeting people or have social anxiety. I do need a lot of time to my self though and need my independence. That can be a major problem in my relationship though. I am also ocd about being organized and being prompt on any task I never procrastinate. My girl on the other hand is the complete opposite it is definitely stressful.
INTJs are direct and detached in their communication. They often naturally see how something could be done better and usually communicate their criticism in a straightforward, logical manner. They are typically independent and calm; they are not so much concerned about being liked or appreciated as they are with being competent and thoughtful. Their communications are typically well thought-out, insightful, and strategic. They often plan well into the future and offer big-picture analysis for improving systems.
INTJs as Partners
In relationships, the INTJ is loyal but independent. INTJs can be almost scientific in choosing a mate and make devoted partners once they have found a match that fits their rigorous list of requirements. They often have clear ideas about what makes for a solid relationship and are unwavering in their pursuit of this ideal.
INTJs often have a passion for self-improvement and are encouraging of their partners' goals and intellectual pursuits. However, they do not usually see the need for frivolous affection or romance, feeling that their devotion should be evident. They are more focused on serving their partners with hard work and resourceful problem-solving than they are on showering them with attention.
INTJs' partners often find them difficult to read, and indeed they do not show emotion easily; they find the process of discussing emotions much too messy and disorganized. They enjoy solving difficult problems, but are often out of their depth when it comes to illogical, unpredictable personal issues.
INTJs value a partner that allows them the independence to achieve their goals, and one who appreciates their efficacy, insight, and ability to offer creative solutions to problems.
INTJs as Parents
As parents, INTJs are devoted and supportive. They set firm limits and provide consistent reinforcement, but within that structure allow a lot of latitude for their children to explore their own interests and potential. They are encouraging of their childrens' intellectual pursuits and enthusiastic about sharing knowledge.
INTJs enjoy the process of developing a young mind, and get a lot of satisfaction from parenting. They want to develop productive, competent, and self-sufficient children who think for themselves.
The INTJ in Life, Work, and Love - A Personality Type Profile
INTJs are direct and detached in their communication. They often naturally see how something could be done better and usually communicate their criticism in a straightforward, logical manner. They are typically independent and calm; they are not so much concerned about being liked or appreciated as they are with being competent and thoughtful. Their communications are typically well thought-out, insightful, and strategic. They often plan well into the future and offer big-picture analysis for improving systems.
INTJs as Partners
INTJs often have a passion for self-improvement and are encouraging of their partners' goals and intellectual pursuits. However, they do not usually see the need for frivolous affection or romance, feeling that their devotion should be evident. They are more focused on serving their partners with hard work and resourceful problem-solving than they are on showering them with attention.
INTJs' partners often find them difficult to read, and indeed they do not show emotion easily; they find the process of discussing emotions much too messy and disorganized. They enjoy solving difficult problems, but are often out of their depth when it comes to illogical, unpredictable personal issues.
INTJs value a partner that allows them the independence to achieve their goals, and one who appreciates their efficacy, insight, and ability to offer creative solutions to problems.
INTJs as Parents
As parents, INTJs are devoted and supportive. They set firm limits and provide consistent reinforcement, but within that structure allow a lot of latitude for their children to explore their own interests and potential. They are encouraging of their childrens' intellectual pursuits and enthusiastic about sharing knowledge.
INTJs enjoy the process of developing a young mind, and get a lot of satisfaction from parenting. They want to develop productive, competent, and self-sufficient children who think for themselves.
The INTJ in Life, Work, and Love - A Personality Type Profile
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I'm an ESTJ. Forgot wtf that means tho.
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Disturbingly accurate. I always wonder how the heck the people came up with these personality theories. Amazing. Like knowing who I am for the first time.It is crazy this is pretty spot on ....I am with an EFNJ so we see things differently most of the time. I am not severely introverted though. I don't mind meeting people or have social anxiety. I do need a lot of time to my self though and need my independence. That can be a major problem in my relationship though. I am also ocd about being organized and being prompt on any task I never procrastinate. My girl on the other hand is the complete opposite it is definitely stressful.
INTJs are direct and detached in their communication. They often naturally see how something could be done better and usually communicate their criticism in a straightforward, logical manner. They are typically independent and calm; they are not so much concerned about being liked or appreciated as they are with being competent and thoughtful. Their communications are typically well thought-out, insightful, and strategic. They often plan well into the future and offer big-picture analysis for improving systems.
INTJs as Partners
In relationships, the INTJ is loyal but independent. INTJs can be almost scientific in choosing a mate and make devoted partners once they have found a match that fits their rigorous list of requirements. They often have clear ideas about what makes for a solid relationship and are unwavering in their pursuit of this ideal.
INTJs often have a passion for self-improvement and are encouraging of their partners' goals and intellectual pursuits. However, they do not usually see the need for frivolous affection or romance, feeling that their devotion should be evident. They are more focused on serving their partners with hard work and resourceful problem-solving than they are on showering them with attention.
INTJs' partners often find them difficult to read, and indeed they do not show emotion easily; they find the process of discussing emotions much too messy and disorganized. They enjoy solving difficult problems, but are often out of their depth when it comes to illogical, unpredictable personal issues.
INTJs value a partner that allows them the independence to achieve their goals, and one who appreciates their efficacy, insight, and ability to offer creative solutions to problems.
INTJs as Parents
As parents, INTJs are devoted and supportive. They set firm limits and provide consistent reinforcement, but within that structure allow a lot of latitude for their children to explore their own interests and potential. They are encouraging of their childrens' intellectual pursuits and enthusiastic about sharing knowledge.
INTJs enjoy the process of developing a young mind, and get a lot of satisfaction from parenting. They want to develop productive, competent, and self-sufficient children who think for themselves.
The INTJ in Life, Work, and Love - A Personality Type Profile
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I used to think like that but you got to give people a second chance. You never really know until you get to know people deeply.
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The Power of Seven Simple Questions | Inflexion Advisors
Although Bacon once said, ?Silence is the sleep that nourishes wisdom?, I?ve found an increasing tendency in business to allow forceful and unstructured extroversion to loudly and clumsily persist and thrive. Unfortunately, we live in a world where noise is often confused with progress, success or intelligence. In my opinion, it?s the introverts who have it all figured out, for it?s within those quiet in-between times that the sparks of insight can truly catch flame.
This is why I so truly admire the brilliance of a well-placed question. A few words in length, the seven base queries below ? obvious in retrospect ? have resulted in hours of honest and unfettered discussion. Regardless of your role, domain, market or audience, these may just reinforce your own power of quiet observation:
Q1) ?What does success look like??
This is a wonderful conversation starter, particularly in a group setting. It?s open ended enough to allow each participant to make it their own, often building on the prior respondent. More importantly, it casts the mind forward to a time when the notion of ?better? may truly come to life.
Q2) ?What scares you??
Fear ? more specifically, unspoken fear ? can be the archenemy of progress. The key is to pause through the uncomfortable silence that follows this question, so wait patiently until someone breaks the verbal logjam. The one-two punch of success and fear will provide the channel through which all must carefully navigate.
Q3) ?Is ?do nothing? an option??
Although tricky, this can be quite effective. Sometimes you?ll receive a raised eyebrow that asks, ?Are you serious?? Of course not!? But in patiently waiting one can typically capture the source of the emotional exhaustion that comes from the unending current state.
Q4) ?What are the inhibitors to success??
Barriers may exist at every turn. Whether dollars, naysayers, technology or the inherent resistance to change, culling out the roadblocks one will encounter on the journey offers you a fighting chance at a real breakthrough. This is a great question to pose one-on-one to each key stakeholder.
Q5) ?How are decisions made??
With a concise understanding of the cultural, personal and communicative nuances you can begin to define what needs to be captured, cultivated and conveyed on the road to success. Although perhaps more process oriented than the others, this prepares one for the possibility of a multitude of check points, socialization sessions and stakeholder reviews.
Q6) ?What is the deadline??
At this point in the conversation, a question like this often draws a sly smile with a single word, ?Yesterday.? ?But seriously?? follows with a clear and concise timeline (if one should exist). Whether aspirational or explicit, an understanding of when one is expected to attain the future vision is paramount to success.
Q7: ?How can I/we help??
This is your closer. After everything else has been put on the table, the notion of help can be incredibly comforting. Moreover, this is when assignments are doled out and next steps are memorialized, so ensure your expected outcomes are clearly defined and captured for follow-up.
I?d encourage you to try all or some of these the next time you enter into an internal or external conversation. A word of caution ? try desperately to avoid the draw of ego-centric connective tissue during this process. In other words, when moments arise where you can obviously ?sell? yourself or your value proposition, fight the urge to do so. Your job at this stage is to take copious notes and listen, pure and simple.
Brilliance often lives in the space between simplicity and silence so why not embrace them both. And once you do, come back and share your story so we can collectively learn from your experience. I look forward to your thoughts.
Although Bacon once said, ?Silence is the sleep that nourishes wisdom?, I?ve found an increasing tendency in business to allow forceful and unstructured extroversion to loudly and clumsily persist and thrive. Unfortunately, we live in a world where noise is often confused with progress, success or intelligence. In my opinion, it?s the introverts who have it all figured out, for it?s within those quiet in-between times that the sparks of insight can truly catch flame.
This is why I so truly admire the brilliance of a well-placed question. A few words in length, the seven base queries below ? obvious in retrospect ? have resulted in hours of honest and unfettered discussion. Regardless of your role, domain, market or audience, these may just reinforce your own power of quiet observation:
Q1) ?What does success look like??
This is a wonderful conversation starter, particularly in a group setting. It?s open ended enough to allow each participant to make it their own, often building on the prior respondent. More importantly, it casts the mind forward to a time when the notion of ?better? may truly come to life.
Q2) ?What scares you??
Fear ? more specifically, unspoken fear ? can be the archenemy of progress. The key is to pause through the uncomfortable silence that follows this question, so wait patiently until someone breaks the verbal logjam. The one-two punch of success and fear will provide the channel through which all must carefully navigate.
Q3) ?Is ?do nothing? an option??
Although tricky, this can be quite effective. Sometimes you?ll receive a raised eyebrow that asks, ?Are you serious?? Of course not!? But in patiently waiting one can typically capture the source of the emotional exhaustion that comes from the unending current state.
Q4) ?What are the inhibitors to success??
Barriers may exist at every turn. Whether dollars, naysayers, technology or the inherent resistance to change, culling out the roadblocks one will encounter on the journey offers you a fighting chance at a real breakthrough. This is a great question to pose one-on-one to each key stakeholder.
Q5) ?How are decisions made??
With a concise understanding of the cultural, personal and communicative nuances you can begin to define what needs to be captured, cultivated and conveyed on the road to success. Although perhaps more process oriented than the others, this prepares one for the possibility of a multitude of check points, socialization sessions and stakeholder reviews.
Q6) ?What is the deadline??
At this point in the conversation, a question like this often draws a sly smile with a single word, ?Yesterday.? ?But seriously?? follows with a clear and concise timeline (if one should exist). Whether aspirational or explicit, an understanding of when one is expected to attain the future vision is paramount to success.
Q7: ?How can I/we help??
This is your closer. After everything else has been put on the table, the notion of help can be incredibly comforting. Moreover, this is when assignments are doled out and next steps are memorialized, so ensure your expected outcomes are clearly defined and captured for follow-up.
I?d encourage you to try all or some of these the next time you enter into an internal or external conversation. A word of caution ? try desperately to avoid the draw of ego-centric connective tissue during this process. In other words, when moments arise where you can obviously ?sell? yourself or your value proposition, fight the urge to do so. Your job at this stage is to take copious notes and listen, pure and simple.
Brilliance often lives in the space between simplicity and silence so why not embrace them both. And once you do, come back and share your story so we can collectively learn from your experience. I look forward to your thoughts.
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On the Job: Introverts, extroverts CAN get along
On the Job: Introverts, extroverts CAN get along
Ask an introvert about an extroverted colleague and you're likely to hear how these outgoing co-workers talk too much, have trouble staying on task and are generally annoying.
Extroverts may counter such opinions with the argument that their friendly nature helps make sales and establish key contacts, and keeps the workplace a fun and lively place.
But many introverts aren't buying it. They claim they have been putting up with extroverts getting all the attention and promotions and key projects for a long time, and say they are finally finding their voice.
Buoyed by a number of new books and studies on the value of introverts, such personality types are willing to point out the flaws of the extroverts to the world -- but that may be leading to some unfair judgments against extroverts.
Sophia Dembling, author of The Introvert's Way: Living a Quiet Life in a Noisy World, says she noticed when writing on her blog about introverts that there was an "increasing hostility" by introverts, who claimed extroverts are "stupid and needy."
Dembling, who says she is an introvert, says she "doesn't buy all that."
In response, she formed a group of about seven extroverted friends that she calls her "Board of Extroverts," to let them offer more information on how they feel about issues and why they react the way they do.
"I think one of the things I learned that really surprised me was that extroverts say when they don't have enough interaction, they feel sad," she says. "So, they assume that when someone else is quiet, they're sad. "
That means that while you as an introvert look for quiet time in your cubicle to recharge and think, the extroverted co-worker who pops up to tell you a joke or try to get you to go to happy hour isn't being annoying on purpose.
"This extrovert really has a genuine concern for you," Dembling says.
While there is much discussion about how introverts can get ahead and work and overcome some issues that may cause them to be overlooked in favor of the more outgoing extroverts, Dembling says there are plenty of career issues facing extroverts.
For example, extroverts love to talk. And talk. And talk. But all that talking means they may sometimes fail to listen to teammates, and miss key information. Or, they may fail to listen to what a customer really wants and lose a sale.
Extroverts experience other challenges at work. For example, while introverts may struggle with an open floor plan at work, extroverts may dislike working in a cubicle, Dembling says.
Their desire for interaction may have them popping up in different cubicles, bothering co-workers who are trying to get tasks done, she says. That means their productivity can be curtailed, not something that goes over big with the boss.
Young workers who are extroverts also need to be more aware of how their outgoing ways can be perceived by more introverted and experienced workers.
Dan Schawbel, author of Promote Yourself: The New Rules for Career Success, says that millennial extroverts need to take a step back and be conscious of how introverts operate.
"Instead of being overly aggressive with an introvert, allow them to talk first and support what they have to say. This will make them more inclined to want to work with you," he says.
Extroverts need "to be sensitive that introverts are usually more quiet, creative and like to keep distance," he says.
Dembling says many members of her extrovert board are creative professionals, and are capable of "turning inward" to come up with creative ideas. "People talk about how creative introverts are because it tends to be a solitary experience," she says. "But extroverts are equally capable."
Dembling says she would like to see extroverts and introverts put aside their differences and instead find ways to support one another.
"Introverts have to stop assuming that extroverts are shallow and our way is better," she says. "They use a lot of words, but we can help them dig out the best point. We can't just assume they're just blathering on."
On the Job: Introverts, extroverts CAN get along
Ask an introvert about an extroverted colleague and you're likely to hear how these outgoing co-workers talk too much, have trouble staying on task and are generally annoying.
Extroverts may counter such opinions with the argument that their friendly nature helps make sales and establish key contacts, and keeps the workplace a fun and lively place.
But many introverts aren't buying it. They claim they have been putting up with extroverts getting all the attention and promotions and key projects for a long time, and say they are finally finding their voice.
Buoyed by a number of new books and studies on the value of introverts, such personality types are willing to point out the flaws of the extroverts to the world -- but that may be leading to some unfair judgments against extroverts.
Sophia Dembling, author of The Introvert's Way: Living a Quiet Life in a Noisy World, says she noticed when writing on her blog about introverts that there was an "increasing hostility" by introverts, who claimed extroverts are "stupid and needy."
Dembling, who says she is an introvert, says she "doesn't buy all that."
In response, she formed a group of about seven extroverted friends that she calls her "Board of Extroverts," to let them offer more information on how they feel about issues and why they react the way they do.
"I think one of the things I learned that really surprised me was that extroverts say when they don't have enough interaction, they feel sad," she says. "So, they assume that when someone else is quiet, they're sad. "
That means that while you as an introvert look for quiet time in your cubicle to recharge and think, the extroverted co-worker who pops up to tell you a joke or try to get you to go to happy hour isn't being annoying on purpose.
"This extrovert really has a genuine concern for you," Dembling says.
While there is much discussion about how introverts can get ahead and work and overcome some issues that may cause them to be overlooked in favor of the more outgoing extroverts, Dembling says there are plenty of career issues facing extroverts.
For example, extroverts love to talk. And talk. And talk. But all that talking means they may sometimes fail to listen to teammates, and miss key information. Or, they may fail to listen to what a customer really wants and lose a sale.
Extroverts experience other challenges at work. For example, while introverts may struggle with an open floor plan at work, extroverts may dislike working in a cubicle, Dembling says.
Their desire for interaction may have them popping up in different cubicles, bothering co-workers who are trying to get tasks done, she says. That means their productivity can be curtailed, not something that goes over big with the boss.
Young workers who are extroverts also need to be more aware of how their outgoing ways can be perceived by more introverted and experienced workers.
Dan Schawbel, author of Promote Yourself: The New Rules for Career Success, says that millennial extroverts need to take a step back and be conscious of how introverts operate.
"Instead of being overly aggressive with an introvert, allow them to talk first and support what they have to say. This will make them more inclined to want to work with you," he says.
Extroverts need "to be sensitive that introverts are usually more quiet, creative and like to keep distance," he says.
Dembling says many members of her extrovert board are creative professionals, and are capable of "turning inward" to come up with creative ideas. "People talk about how creative introverts are because it tends to be a solitary experience," she says. "But extroverts are equally capable."
Dembling says she would like to see extroverts and introverts put aside their differences and instead find ways to support one another.
"Introverts have to stop assuming that extroverts are shallow and our way is better," she says. "They use a lot of words, but we can help them dig out the best point. We can't just assume they're just blathering on."
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the hubs is an introvert, Im an extrovert
its actually hell for me because I acquiesce to his need for introversion..leaving me pretty much only socializing online which is frankly , strangling to me and pretty depressing
It would be better for me if we could meet in the middle but he's never shown this inclination
Co parenting actually works out quite well though because he's good with rules and structure-learning whereas I'm interested in how they "feel" and how they're developing socially.
most truth I've mentioned on this board to date.
its actually hell for me because I acquiesce to his need for introversion..leaving me pretty much only socializing online which is frankly , strangling to me and pretty depressing
It would be better for me if we could meet in the middle but he's never shown this inclination
Co parenting actually works out quite well though because he's good with rules and structure-learning whereas I'm interested in how they "feel" and how they're developing socially.
most truth I've mentioned on this board to date.
I am both. GICH!
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I'm an introvert unless I'm on drugs.
I'm on drugs most of the time
I am the same. If I am sober, then please leave me the fuck alone.
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Wait till you see my nudes! (... books a sack waxing)
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just take some clippers to it and send pics....Im impatient
close up of nics to ball sack though
close up of nics to ball sack though
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An Interactive Map of Personality Traits by State in the US
Time Science & Space created an interactive map based upon a recently multinational study that was conducted to determine personality traits that are most predominant in each state in the US.
The study, published in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, was an exhaustive one, spanning 13 years and including nearly 1.6 million survey respondents from the 48 contiguous states and the District of Columbia. (Alaska and Hawaii were excluded because not enough people responded to the researchers? questionnaires.) The subjects, recruited via websites and other means of advertising throughout the academic community as well as through less rarefied platforms like Facebook, were asked to take one of three different personality surveys, though the most relevant one was what?s known as the Big Five Inventory?As its name implies, the survey measures personality along five different spectra, with the Openness, Conscientiousness, Extroversion, Agreeableness and Neuroticism labels forming a handy acronym: OCEAN.
You can take the abbreviated test here and the full test here.
Time Science & Space created an interactive map based upon a recently multinational study that was conducted to determine personality traits that are most predominant in each state in the US.
The study, published in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, was an exhaustive one, spanning 13 years and including nearly 1.6 million survey respondents from the 48 contiguous states and the District of Columbia. (Alaska and Hawaii were excluded because not enough people responded to the researchers? questionnaires.) The subjects, recruited via websites and other means of advertising throughout the academic community as well as through less rarefied platforms like Facebook, were asked to take one of three different personality surveys, though the most relevant one was what?s known as the Big Five Inventory?As its name implies, the survey measures personality along five different spectra, with the Openness, Conscientiousness, Extroversion, Agreeableness and Neuroticism labels forming a handy acronym: OCEAN.
You can take the abbreviated test here and the full test here.
