Well said.. This is the internet guys.. Anyone could be anyone and could say anything.. These tests that are being done by the sponsors not just Z are being done openly to help you guys out.. And remember that when tests have come back low or showed that products where not high quality it was posted, the product stopped shipping until the issue was fixed and the customers who had ordered where taken care of.. Who else would do that? To me thats shows complete transparency in testing.. We post and tell you guys when the products are good and when they are sub par in quality.. I don't know too many sponsors doing that.. But in the end these guys, besides showing you results are trying to educate you and showing you the importance of getting your own testing done. Not only does this help you attain the maximum out of your products but it helps the sponsors too. Think about it this way.. There are lets say for the hell of it there are 5 sponsors total. For those 5 sponsors there are thousands of customers. We have all heard stories about some sponsors especially new and "up and coming" sponsors being bad quality, completely bunk or sometimes just a plain scam. If this can happen how many of those thousands of customers are exactly like these scumbags that i just described.. If you dont think the "good sponsors" are being scammed too, your wrong. They come on here claiming shit is bunk or tryin to get double orders for free. So you see, if you have actual testing results in your hand to prove that the products are sub par no reputable source would turn you away and not make things right.. But just because you "don't feel anything" or "arent getting bigger" doesnt mean the products are junk and you deserve more products at the loss of the sponsor. Most of the time it means you don't know what the hell your doing. Wether thats not eating correctly, not training towards your goal or your new and think its a magical product that works on its own.. Let's be thankful for ALL the sponsors and the members who have helped put this testing into place... VE