Cycle Thoughts

[spartan1]

I am thinking about something like this.

dbol 50mg ED 5wks.
test C or P 250mg Every 5th day
EQ 300 Every 5th Day
Tren Hex 150 Every 5th Day 8 -10 wks.

I will run the test and EQ for 12 wks.

Will have AI
Have PCT

PLease let me know what you think Goal is to add size but to keep it to LBM as much as possible

 

[exphys88]

I am thinking about something like this.

dbol 50mg ED 5wks.
test C or P 250mg Every 5th day
EQ 300 Every 5th Day
Tren Hex 150 Every 5th Day 8 -10 wks.

I will run the test and EQ for 12 wks.

Will have AI
Have PCT

PLease let me know what you think Goal is to add size but to keep it to LBM as much as possible

You don't want to run test p every 5th day, it's half life is too short and should be run EOD.

why are you doing every 5 days? It seems like a complicated way to run gear. why not twice weekly?

I would watch e2 closely w 50 mg of dbol.

 

[heartofalion]

Why the 5th day injections and not just twice a week?

EQ should be for longer, like 15 Weeks.

If it's gonna be Test P, you'll need EOD, not every 5th day.

Tren seems low to me, but I like it sky high.

Test is not much more than TRT. If you're gonna do that, I'd say run Tren higher than the Test. Minimizes the sides for a lotta us.

 

[spartan1]

You don't want to run test p every 5th day, it's half life is too short and should be run EOD.

why are you doing every 5 days? It seems like a complicated way to run gear. why not twice weekly?

I would watch e2 closely w 50 mg of dbol.

Sorry typo on my part it will be test c or e not p.

 

[spartan1]

I was just trying to keep everything at a min. and try to still get fair to good results. I guess I could run the test 2x's per wk but I really did not want to go much over 350mg to 450mg per wk. The tren would be right around 300mg per wk I would start there see how it feels then maybe up it to 400mg per wk. I know EQ should be run for 15 wks but I have had good results with it up to 10wks and beyond week 12. Plus I seem to still get the benefits from it for wks after I am off. I just did not want to run a long cycle. I will be taking arimidex at .5mg EOD or MWF seems to keep my e2 in check. I will also be running proviron, caber, and (HCG 250 2x's per wk starting the 4th wk)

I guess my goal would be to get the most on the least and for the shortest period of time. I would rather run more cycle then to run one long one. I seem to platue at around day 56 or so so I am thinking 10 to 12 weeks would be the sweet spot.

Any and all advice is openly welcome.

 

[exphys88]

You can still run the same amount of gear and pin twice weekly. Just lower the dose to account for the more frequent pins.

 

[spartan1]

You can still run the same amount of gear and pin twice weekly. Just lower the dose to account for the more frequent pins.

I understand that.. I was just asking what members thought the min. that could be run to still get good results w/o the unwanted sides. Thanks for you feedback.

 

[BigMikeCO]

I agree with exphys88 all the way. your injections are too far apart- twice a week or 3x a week would be better. I would watch that dose of dbol- that seems really high- I'd half if and see how you tolerate it.

 

[spartan1]

I agree with exphys88 all the way. your injections are too far apart- twice a week or 3x a week would be better. I would watch that dose of dbol- that seems really high- I'd half if and see how you tolerate it.

Do you think I would get good results min. sides with this:
350mg Test Cyp or Enth per wk (12wks)
start out with 25mg Dbol and adjust if needed (5wks)
Tren Hex 300mg per wk then adjust up if comfortable(10wks)
EQ 600mg per wk. (12wks)

Thanks

 

[BigMikeCO]

Welll... what is your cycle history? to me the 350mg test vs the 600mg/wk seems off. Usually test is higher and then EQ is 1/2 to 2/3 the dose of test. As for the 25mg of dbol- that is a great place to start.

I would some input from others as to spartan's use of dbol and tren and the same time. Not sure it's a good idea.

 

[exphys88]

Do you think I would get good results min. sides with this:
350mg Test Cyp or Enth per wk (12wks)
start out with 25mg Dbol and adjust if needed (5wks)
Tren Hex 300mg per wk then adjust up if comfortable(10wks)
EQ 600mg per wk. (12wks)

Thanks

I think that's plenty of gear. A lot of guys like to run higher amounts of test, but you're running plenty to keep everything working properly.
I'm currently running 300 mg test, 300 mg primo, and 300 mg EQ.

 

[spartan1]

I think that's plenty of gear. A lot of guys like to run higher amounts of test, but you're running plenty to keep everything working properly.
I'm currently running 300 mg test, 300 mg primo, and 300 mg EQ.

Looks cool. What results are you seeing at 300mg EQ everything I read say's you have to take at least 600mg and go for as long as 16 wks min.

 

[spartan1]

Welll... what is your cycle history? to me the 350mg test vs the 600mg/wk seems off. Usually test is higher and then EQ is 1/2 to 2/3 the dose of test. As for the 25mg of dbol- that is a great place to start.

I would some input from others as to spartan's use of dbol and tren and the same time. Not sure it's a good idea.

I would be taking the dbol only the first 5 wks then stopping. I figured it would take about 3-4 wks for the Tren Hex to kick in. But I would also like to hear what others think about the mix for sure.

 

[exphys88]

Looks cool. What results are you seeing at 300mg EQ everything I read say's you have to take at least 600mg and go for as long as 16 wks min.

It's only been a couple weeks, so nothing but bacne so far.

 

[THEWIZARDOFKOZ]

Eq needs to be run 16 weeks. this is just information that i have read on board. i was going to run eq 12 weeks, but after doing some reading and posting a question, the answers that i read and received were to run eq for 16 weeks.

I am thinking about something like this.

dbol 50mg ED 5wks.
test C or P 250mg Every 5th day
EQ 300 Every 5th Day
Tren Hex 150 Every 5th Day 8 -10 wks.

I will run the test and EQ for 12 wks.

Will have AI
Have PCT

PLease let me know what you think Goal is to add size but to keep it to LBM as much as possible

 

[Digitalash]

If your goal is using minimum amount of gear then definitely stick with dbol @ 25-30mg, if its legit 50mg is alot IMO. Also 300mg tren hex alone will give you results so with the rest of your compounds that should be a fairly nice cycle with low sides. You may not even need caber but I would definitely use it, and I like that you're using proviron as well.

 

[spartan1]

If your goal is using minimum amount of gear then definitely stick with dbol @ 25-30mg, if its legit 50mg is alot IMO. Also 300mg tren hex alone will give you results so with the rest of your compounds that should be a fairly nice cycle with low sides. You may not even need caber but I would definitely use it, and I like that you're using proviron as well.

Thanks for your input.. What are your thoughts on only running the EQ at 600mg per wk for 12 wks?

 

[Digitalash]

I've never used it (in a legit cycle at least, I've run very low doses during cruise for collagen synth) but always heard 16+ with EQ. With that said I see no reason 12 weeks won't still give results and 16 IMO is too long when it comes to the issue of recovering post cycle. IMO frontload 1.2g the first 2 weeks and run 12 as planned, continue test at least 2 weeks beyond that.

 

[spartan1]

I've never used it (in a legit cycle at least, I've run very low doses during cruise for collagen synth) but always heard 16+ with EQ. With that said I see no reason 12 weeks won't still give results and 16 IMO is too long when it comes to the issue of recovering post cycle. IMO frontload 1.2g the first 2 weeks and run 12 as planned, continue test at least 2 weeks beyond that.

Are you saying 1200 EQ for the 1st 2 wks? At least that is how I am reading it. Yes last run I ran it for 16 wks and the test for 3 wks past. I just do not like being on for 20 wks. 5 months. Plus PCT so basically half the year.

 

[ItsMrGreen]

You don't want to run test p every 5th day, it's half life is too short and should be run EOD.

why are you doing every 5 days? It seems like a complicated way to run gear. why not twice weekly?

I would watch e2 closely w 50 mg of dbol.

This.

just do shots on monday and thursday or any two days spaced out like this for long esters and then shorts esters do either every day or every other day. Isnt tren hex basically tren ace if so you would want to do that every other day or every day.

Since your trying to keep it lean think about adding in Winny for the last couple weeks

 

[spartan1]

This.

just do shots on monday and thursday or any two days spaced out like this for long esters and then shorts esters do either every day or every other day. Isnt tren hex basically tren ace if so you would want to do that every other day or every day.

Since your trying to keep it lean think about adding in Winny for the last couple weeks

Tren Hex is a long ester like Cyp Deca ect. And the Prop was a typo I corrected earlier in the conv. it was supposed to be Cyp and Enth.

Thank you for your response.