Flax seed

[jimm]

arite guys,


Just wonering whats you thoughts on flax seed ( linseed )

basically last week i had some spare cash decided to go to the supplement shop and pick up a few bits orginally went in to see if they had flax seed oil, anyway they had flax seed in capsule form but they had a bag of this ground flax seed which was at a reduced price and cost next to nothing so i thought id just get that as i was still tight for money..

Is this stuff any good its ground powderd form flax seed im just using 2 table spoons (12g) in my shake in the morning.

i wanted flax seed oil as a healthy fat source in my diet im currently just using olive oil..

Thing with this stuff i have is that it doesnt say how many cals it has is it calorie free??

i has plenty of omega 3,6 and 9's in there and lignans..im just wondering about the cals of this is any..Like i just said im using olive oil as my additional fat source is it ok to use them both together olive oil with my meals and flax seed in my morning shake


Also what amounts of this should i be taking in every day im 5'8 about 190lb right now

 

[exphys88]

You can probably search for the nutrition facts for ground flax seeds.
Always buy ground or grind yourself, otherwise they'll pass right thru w/o any benefit to you.

 

[ThreeGigs]

Basically nobody needs Omega 9's, and we get too much omega-6. Flax has omega-3's, but it's 95% of the kind of omega-3's we can't use. I think you need something like 16 ounces of flax oil to get the EPA and DHA omega-3's to cover your RDA.

Not worth buying.

 

[exphys88]

Basically nobody needs Omega 9's, and we get too much omega-6. Flax has omega-3's, but it's 95% of the kind of omega-3's we can't use. I think you need something like 16 ounces of flax oil to get the EPA and DHA omega-3's to cover your RDA.

Not worth buying.

Can you site your source of info for this? I'm not disagreeing, it's just new to me.

 

[skinnyd]

2 tbl spoons a day

 

[flynike]

I love using flaxseed meal every morning w my oats, helps me go in the morning along w a cup of coffee!

 

[jimm]

You can probably search for the nutrition facts for ground flax seeds.
Always buy ground or grind yourself, otherwise they'll pass right thru w/o any benefit to you.

really why do people always bang on about flax seed oil then?

Basically nobody needs Omega 9's, and we get too much omega-6. Flax has omega-3's, but it's 95% of the kind of omega-3's we can't use. I think you need something like 16 ounces of flax oil to get the EPA and DHA omega-3's to cover your RDA.

Not worth buying.

why is it talked highly of then if its not worth buying surely its one of them thing were its better to have it and not need it then to need it and not have it?

I love using flaxseed meal every morning w my oats, helps me go in the morning along w a cup of coffee!

yeah im just throwing in 2 tablespoons of it in with my morning shake along with my oats peanut butter ect... i guess its gonna do more good then harm.

 

[ebfitness]

Flax raises estrogen, fish oil reduces estrogen...buy some fish oil.

 

[exphys88]

Flax raises estrogen, fish oil reduces estrogen...buy some fish oil.

All of these foods have phytoestrogens in them: soybeans and soy products, tempeh, linseed (flax), sesame seeds, wheatberries, fenugreek, oats, barley, beans, lentils, yams, rice, alfalfa, mung beans, apples, carrots, pomegranates,

 

[exphys88]

really why do people always bang on about flax seed oil then?

because the oil is where the nutrients are. If you just eat whole seeds, they will pass thru without releasing the oils into your digestive system.

 

[ThreeGigs]

Can you site your source of info for this? I'm not disagreeing, it's just new to me.

OK, about Omega-3 fatty acids.


A quick and dirty primer can be found on Wikipedia:
Omega-3 fatty acid - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


There are 11 Omega-3 fatty acids. However, only two of them are particularly important to us: EPA and DHA. A third Omega-3 we can use is ALA. Our bodies can convert ALA to EPA and DHA, however the conversion efficiency is horribly low, plus the metabolic pathway used competes with Omega-6 utilization too.


You can also do a quick and dirty lookup on flaxseed oil on Wikipedia:
Linseed oil - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Yes, its more common name is linseed oil, which is a great wood finish. I use it on my countertops. It's got a lot of ALA, but remember, it's EPA and DHA we need, not so much ALA.


Now, Omega-9 fatty acids are not essential nutrients. Our bodies can make them from other fats.
Omega-6 fatty acids *are* essential, however most people on a western style diet eat way too much omega-6.
Omega-3 fatty acids are essential, but as above, we only really use two (and a third can be used to synthesize those two, but not well).


Again, more Wikipedia:
Essential fatty acid interactions - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
There is research indicating that there is an ideal ratio of omega-6 to omega-3, however there isn't a universally recognized 'ideal' ratio. However it generally falls between 1:1 and 4:1, with 2:1 (omega-6 : omega-3) being the one I've seen most. However, a typical western diet has a ratio of 10:1, 20:1, or even higher.


So if you're eating flax seeds for the Omega-3 content, don't bother.
Flax seed is a good source of fiber. 100 grams or about 3 and a half ounces is about 500 calories, and has almost a full day's RDA of fiber. Plus a lot of magnesium, phosphorus, zinc, vitamin B1 and iron. But if those 500 calories are going to crowd your diet, there are other sources of fiber with fewer calories, and multivitamins and mineral supps take care of the rest.

really why do people always bang on about flax seed oil then?
why is it talked highly of then if its not worth buying surely its one of them thing were its better to have it and not need it then to need it and not have it?

Because "OMG IT'S RICH IN OMEGA-3S!!!!!!!111ONE" Too bad nobody ever bothers to do research any more. If they did, half the Omega-3 supp makers would be out of business.

 

[exphys88]

Too bad nobody ever bothers to do research any more. If they did, half the Omega-3 supp makers would be out of business.

Correction: Nobody does the amount of research that you do. Thanks for this.

 

[jimm]

because the oil is where the nutrients are. If you just eat whole seeds, they will pass thru without releasing the oils into your digestive system.

so the powderd stuff i have is useless then lol?

as far as raising estogen iv been getting a couple of spots lately, im not on gear or anything at the min and come to think iv only just got them about the same time im using this flax.. its nothing major but just when someone mentioned estrogen and the fact iv been off for a couple of weeks now.. maybe this flax has something to do with it maybe it doesnt who knows...

 

[jimm]

OK, about Omega-3 fatty acids.


A quick and dirty primer can be found on Wikipedia:
Omega-3 fatty acid - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


There are 11 Omega-3 fatty acids. However, only two of them are particularly important to us: EPA and DHA. A third Omega-3 we can use is ALA. Our bodies can convert ALA to EPA and DHA, however the conversion efficiency is horribly low, plus the metabolic pathway used competes with Omega-6 utilization too.


You can also do a quick and dirty lookup on flaxseed oil on Wikipedia:
Linseed oil - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Yes, its more common name is linseed oil, which is a great wood finish. I use it on my countertops. It's got a lot of ALA, but remember, it's EPA and DHA we need, not so much ALA.


Now, Omega-9 fatty acids are not essential nutrients. Our bodies can make them from other fats.
Omega-6 fatty acids *are* essential, however most people on a western style diet eat way too much omega-6.
Omega-3 fatty acids are essential, but as above, we only really use two (and a third can be used to synthesize those two, but not well).


Again, more Wikipedia:
Essential fatty acid interactions - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
There is research indicating that there is an ideal ratio of omega-6 to omega-3, however there isn't a universally recognized 'ideal' ratio. However it generally falls between 1:1 and 4:1, with 2:1 (omega-6 : omega-3) being the one I've seen most. However, a typical western diet has a ratio of 10:1, 20:1, or even higher.


So if you're eating flax seeds for the Omega-3 content, don't bother.
Flax seed is a good source of fiber. 100 grams or about 3 and a half ounces is about 500 calories, and has almost a full day's RDA of fiber. Plus a lot of magnesium, phosphorus, zinc, vitamin B1 and iron. But if those 500 calories are going to crowd your diet, there are other sources of fiber with fewer calories, and multivitamins and mineral supps take care of the rest.




Because "OMG IT'S RICH IN OMEGA-3S!!!!!!!111ONE" Too bad nobody ever bothers to do research any more. If they did, half the Omega-3 supp makers would be out of business.

i wasnt really other then the fact i thought iwas getting some healthy fats from it but i was confused id get the same nutrients as its powderd not oil form..


As far as supps only stuff i take right now it

multi vit
b complexreen
green tea
fish oil capsules
vit c supplemnt