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When I get bloods ill follow heavys protocol and post bloods, Ill be running mlgs test e. Since its my first run with test I want to make sure im getting correct dosage.
I was injecting 250mg saturday morning and tuesday night, blood work was done both times on friday morning, so only 2.5 days later. You mentioned how even with 200mg your results never came back as low as this guys did with 300 of MLGs so maybe its dosed at about half the potency? I'm not sure how fast the levels drop or how different they would be between 2.5 days and 7 days from injection.
I will also say that during my 10 week cutting cycle I used super dmz for the first 4 weeks and last 2 weeks. During those middle 4 weeks when all I had was test I lost strength and size. I was very surprised by this for 500mg of test, but that would make more sense if I was really on more like 250mg of test.
Usually 300mg T cyp or enanthate will put guys levels around 1,200ng/dl minimum 7 days out. You were obviously injecting more than 300mg T weekly IMO.
Keep in mind that Chinese Testosterone powder commonly mass spec at about 80%. So if a brewer wants to be certain customers are getting what they deserve upping the powders per vial 20% is a no brainer.
ok if thats 7 days out though wouldn't it be closer to the values I had at 2.5 days out (~1800 and ~2300)? Then again I guess it was 250mg 2.5 days prior and the other 250mg of the week was taken another 3.5 days prior to that. So I suppose it would be a lot of guess work, but from what you're saying probably close to 400mg/week or so total which is what I originally thought.
It looks close enough for me to say its likely close to being properly dosed however without following the protocol EXACTLY that's just an educated guess.
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tinyshrek,
If by "this one guy," you mean me, I did not say any such thing. I bought the product. I followed the protocol. I posted the results. That is all. You and mlg ought to be thanking me, and I am encouraged to see mlg saying he will reevaluate his dosing.
I undertook this testing as a service to the others here, simply because I have learned so much and benefitted so much from this forum.
I do not rep for mlg or anybody else. I have and had no vested interest in the outcome, other than seeing a useful library of results here.
For what it's worth, I corresponded with MLG prior to posting, and he strikes me as an honest and sincere guy. I certainly was not accusing him of intentionally doing anything with respect to underdosing. I fully expect he will correct the issue in the future.
I just did the protocol and posted the results. It really is that simple.
I wish more people would do it.
How about you, tinyshrek? Pick someone at random and follow the protocol. It takes only 28 days. Help us out instead of hurling unfounded accusations.
tinyshrek
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True I understand now. My apologies. I can admit when I'm wrong. Heavy has explained this to me and I see it's for the greater good.
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dirtbiker666
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I said it once I will say it again his T/a is on point ! Glad to see MLG taking responsibility and fixing things !
I will gladly volunteer to be one of the guys to get blood work if MLG sends me stuff 
but really, I would definitely be down and could probably get multiple tests without too much issue if it would be helpful.
but really, I would definitely be down and could probably get multiple tests without too much issue if it would be helpful.
FTW34
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Ill be the first to speak on MLG's genuine way he conducts business, in my opinion what the numbers speak of has to do with his supplier not him. MLG sets a example of what Service should be. It can always be hit or miss with China.
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I will gladly volunteer to be one of the guys to get blood work if MLG sends me stuff
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weightslayer
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Also, PM'd
MLG is going to furnish some test for me to run following heavys protocol and I'll get bloods as soon as the 28 days is over. I look forward to getting the results! And appreciate MLG for offering to let me sample out some of his product! Alot of sources wouldnt do this if they didnt care about their reputation, thanks.
I will be doing this too. Looking forward to seeing how everything turns out.
longworthb
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Sounds to me like mlg is a damn good business man. He seen a problem now he's taking steps to ensure his product is top notch. What the Chinese do with there powders werent under his control but to see he's taking steps to fix things speaks a lot to his quality of business
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Yeah MLG is a good businessman for sure. I know of a guy that has received hundreds of bottles from him and all have been great. Everyone that I've talked to around my area that's tried his oils swear by them and continue to use his stuff. I'm personally very happy with the quality of his products, as well as the prices and service. As far as I go, I'm sticking with him. It's good to see that he's putting his products out there for testing, I really don't think he has anything to hide. I've actually had tests done while on his prop and his cyp, both of which turned up good. Both were done a few months ago. Anyhow, figured I'd chime in on this since I've used all of his oils.
i agree w/ the guy that said, this is a lab section, it shoudnt be an emotion section !! and i apolagize in advance if im upset, but i'll still try to remain un-emotional,, on gear ?? yea i dont think so,hahaha..
heres my beef,, and this is for all the guys that are jumping all over mlg, and they have almost no idea about whats going on, and ill explain why !! nobody is taking into account the many many many guys on here that have years of experiance in this game, some guys are the game, i been a experimental pin cushion now for a good 25 yrs, yea im 45,, but how can a guy that post, um i just pinned half a ml and its my first time doing test, how the hell can a guy like that even be considered in a situation like that, i was running sciroxx, and 5 other brands all summer, i was banging drols, dbols, test, eq, deca oh the fucking list goes on, some of you know exactly what i mean, anyway,,
i been running for a while, im the guy that had liver failure last yr and was in a coma at the lahey clinic, you can believe im banging with 10cc pins, well listen to this lab guys, i hit a platue and really should of came off, but i saw mlg's prices and said fuckit and started my shit again, my shit was over dosed and its a fact i had to stop banging my tren e twice a week, it was to much for me, i dont like sweating in my sleep, i wake up freezing w/ the air on, but i started growing again and i was running all the same shit, same dosing, all my boys wanted in, and after a total 22 pound gain, i put 12 more when i went to mlg, and i dropped my doses,
but this is for everyguy crying about test, you can take this to the bank or the grave amigo, this is gods truth !!
im sterile from steroids and wife is 39, wants one more, i been going to the best fertility doc in the state, and she threw me out the office the other day and dropped me, and ya wanna know why, cause she been pinning me w/ everything known to man, and she seen my 7900 testosterone level,, i swear to you on all i love, she turn the screen and said, there is nothing i can do for you with levels like that, (almost 8 thousand, and now my wife wants to file the big D papers, guys relax, you got guys like me and many others that been doing this for many years, we know what to expect from our gear, and were here for a reason, and please,,
if you just got in the game well welcome, now sit back and pay your dues, ive pinned the best and the worst, and if mlg was not on the money, i would still be w/ my man of 9 yrs, yea i left a good source for this guy, lets say it was profitable for me, and every guy i know at the gym wont leave me alone for this gear, that says it all,
im sorry, but if i seem like comming to mlg's defence its because i gotta be loyal to this guy, he has done many favors, breaks discounts, waved fees, and gave 100% and delvered some good shit, oh yea i got a scrpt for watsons but lets say they go elsewhere sometimes, well i was banging them to w/ the sciroxx, and was on 2500mgs a week, i dropped to 12oo mgs on mlg and still gained, i dont care what anyone says i like it, and am waiting on another pack, gods truth !! i put my money where my mouth is, hey, one guy i know for years has his own guy, well at the gym he comes over and says why cant i grow like that ?? so i was giving him the protein, and food bullshit, if one more guy says its not the juice ill pipe him, cause if you aint got genetics let me see you acomplish the same feets please do amuse me, get off the shit for 5 years and show me what you got hahaha,
so im telling him bout rest etc, and he says no, can you get me what your on,, hahaha, look if your worried and want to go on a mission, buy some gear and do a test, leave us alone till you can post up ya shit, who the hell was the guy who said he pinned 200 mgs and got blood work,, hahaha someone please slap him if he is in your town, i got a custy who lives sleeps shits body building, i heard he even sold his ass for gear, haha any way when i was dry id see him for emergency drols test whatever,
well he comes sees me now, this kid does shows he pins 5,000, even 10,000 mgs a week insane is what describes him and he likes this gear,
and to top it off mlg says theyll stay on quality control, what more could you ask for what ?? look at the threads some sponsors got 3, and mlg got 1200, you tell me whats really going on ?? is someone trying to make a sale, they cant even get a guy to look at their crazy prices, guys paying 150 at a gym for prope, mlg for 20, you tell me where your going, hahahaha, well i blew my load im done, rest assure if you go w/ mlg your getting a good sponsor man,, i would cut'em up if they screwed me, but you see me going to their defense, it should tell you something, they do me right.
heres my beef,, and this is for all the guys that are jumping all over mlg, and they have almost no idea about whats going on, and ill explain why !! nobody is taking into account the many many many guys on here that have years of experiance in this game, some guys are the game, i been a experimental pin cushion now for a good 25 yrs, yea im 45,, but how can a guy that post, um i just pinned half a ml and its my first time doing test, how the hell can a guy like that even be considered in a situation like that, i was running sciroxx, and 5 other brands all summer, i was banging drols, dbols, test, eq, deca oh the fucking list goes on, some of you know exactly what i mean, anyway,,
i been running for a while, im the guy that had liver failure last yr and was in a coma at the lahey clinic, you can believe im banging with 10cc pins, well listen to this lab guys, i hit a platue and really should of came off, but i saw mlg's prices and said fuckit and started my shit again, my shit was over dosed and its a fact i had to stop banging my tren e twice a week, it was to much for me, i dont like sweating in my sleep, i wake up freezing w/ the air on, but i started growing again and i was running all the same shit, same dosing, all my boys wanted in, and after a total 22 pound gain, i put 12 more when i went to mlg, and i dropped my doses,
but this is for everyguy crying about test, you can take this to the bank or the grave amigo, this is gods truth !!
im sterile from steroids and wife is 39, wants one more, i been going to the best fertility doc in the state, and she threw me out the office the other day and dropped me, and ya wanna know why, cause she been pinning me w/ everything known to man, and she seen my 7900 testosterone level,, i swear to you on all i love, she turn the screen and said, there is nothing i can do for you with levels like that, (almost 8 thousand, and now my wife wants to file the big D papers, guys relax, you got guys like me and many others that been doing this for many years, we know what to expect from our gear, and were here for a reason, and please,,
if you just got in the game well welcome, now sit back and pay your dues, ive pinned the best and the worst, and if mlg was not on the money, i would still be w/ my man of 9 yrs, yea i left a good source for this guy, lets say it was profitable for me, and every guy i know at the gym wont leave me alone for this gear, that says it all,
im sorry, but if i seem like comming to mlg's defence its because i gotta be loyal to this guy, he has done many favors, breaks discounts, waved fees, and gave 100% and delvered some good shit, oh yea i got a scrpt for watsons but lets say they go elsewhere sometimes, well i was banging them to w/ the sciroxx, and was on 2500mgs a week, i dropped to 12oo mgs on mlg and still gained, i dont care what anyone says i like it, and am waiting on another pack, gods truth !! i put my money where my mouth is, hey, one guy i know for years has his own guy, well at the gym he comes over and says why cant i grow like that ?? so i was giving him the protein, and food bullshit, if one more guy says its not the juice ill pipe him, cause if you aint got genetics let me see you acomplish the same feets please do amuse me, get off the shit for 5 years and show me what you got hahaha,
so im telling him bout rest etc, and he says no, can you get me what your on,, hahaha, look if your worried and want to go on a mission, buy some gear and do a test, leave us alone till you can post up ya shit, who the hell was the guy who said he pinned 200 mgs and got blood work,, hahaha someone please slap him if he is in your town, i got a custy who lives sleeps shits body building, i heard he even sold his ass for gear, haha any way when i was dry id see him for emergency drols test whatever,
well he comes sees me now, this kid does shows he pins 5,000, even 10,000 mgs a week insane is what describes him and he likes this gear,
and to top it off mlg says theyll stay on quality control, what more could you ask for what ?? look at the threads some sponsors got 3, and mlg got 1200, you tell me whats really going on ?? is someone trying to make a sale, they cant even get a guy to look at their crazy prices, guys paying 150 at a gym for prope, mlg for 20, you tell me where your going, hahahaha, well i blew my load im done, rest assure if you go w/ mlg your getting a good sponsor man,, i would cut'em up if they screwed me, but you see me going to their defense, it should tell you something, they do me right.
Boneman nice testimony.... Its great to see you support MLG like that. Plus he has a loyal following which tells us all something. With that said "we" meaning a community needs to embrace science over opinion or feelings. I have nothing against MLG. But I could take you right now to testimony after testimony of how great a product is or a line is and it is JUNK. I'm not talking just one or two guys saying it BUT pages.
With that said we need to follow the protocal laid out before us by those who have gone before us and get bloods done and post results. This is our best indicator in almost all cases when done correctly.
BTW, MLG has been gracious enough to offer a bunch of members to test his products. I think thats a noble and forthright action. NOW, lets sit back for the results.
MULCH
With that said we need to follow the protocal laid out before us by those who have gone before us and get bloods done and post results. This is our best indicator in almost all cases when done correctly.
BTW, MLG has been gracious enough to offer a bunch of members to test his products. I think thats a noble and forthright action. NOW, lets sit back for the results.
MULCH
thank you !! and i must admit i totally agree with you, on all levels.
infact that was tastefully done my friend, when all is said and done ya cant dispute the labs when they start comming back. im gonna ask for a copy of my labs from the clinic, i'll post that 7900 for you guys.
c-ya on the boards my man..
bones..
dirtbiker666
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Umm no....Just because he got bad powder does not mean he needs to pass it along to his costumers.
Read back to what HI said about the powders from the chinese and understand what he is saying. It's not that MLG is selling bad product because he is not.
vicious 13
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I can't blame china and say he's innocent I can say he has a chance to make it right though... I've seen some other sub par labs on other boards but it does seem like MLg is owning up to it and fixing the problem so hats off to him I would love to see some more labs though following protocol like heavy said we can make this section very scientific and informative
x2. I think a few of us will be getting blood work done with it soon. I haven't received mine yet but he said he shipped mine Saturday so I can't see it coming later than tomorrow, I would imagine other people will get theirs around the same time.
whats up scag !! yea my last order hit some bumps, and mlg wanted to send another out to me, i was like hold up bro, give it a week, haha, i like this guy !! its hard for me to say i like one product cause i run'em all !! haha, well what happened was i was running sciroxx in the begining of summer, and switched to mlg, and ran the same shit, im a ex drug addict, so as you know i am currently a roid addict, i been a stick my whole life so now im 45 and dont give a shit, haha but i gotta be careful, i almost died from liver failure, and thats one of my points, when i switched to mlg i cut the doses in half cause i been on for a while.
well i showed gains and got impressed, that fertility doc called me and said richard, you got a serious steroid problem, if i seek help she will see me again, haha, my test level is 7900, im pumping 8 gees bro, haha, now if my test was funny yea i would be the first to cry foul, but how the hell can i complain w/ blood work like that, by the way when i was on sciroxx my level was 5200, i been at this clinic for over a year now,
my wife wont talk to me, she's hurt, but im gona do this pack i just got and come off for a while and try knocking her up.
but i like all his gear, but ya know what, his tren e, was pretty damm good, i just read a guy pinning 600mgs of it 3 times a week, i guarentee you he comes off that protocol, im a nut, i pin the whole bottle to try it haha and tren e does not have to be pinned so much, tren a yes but this guy will be a mess it was way to strong for me, i went to once a week, i was good.
i just got the tren a and seeing im gonna be comming off, im gonna do 50mgs a day thats all, the truth is less is best, i really showed the best gains evrytime i went easy, when i go nuts the sides go up, kabeesh ?? ill see ya on the boards bro
later,
bones
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