Second Cycle Almost Nailed Down- Need help

[Tysdon]

Ok so I made a post earlier that was for information gathering purposes and I pretty much have everything nailed down. This will be my second cycle. first was 500mg/w of Test E. 21 yrs old 6'2 230lbs 14%bf This will also function as my log if I don't have to greatly restructure. The cycle is as follows.

1-12 Test E 600mg/w
1-4 Dbol 50mg ED
6-12 Tren Ace 50mg EOD or 200mg/w slowly moving up every week to a maximum of 400mg/w. If encounter bad sides I'll back down.
1-4 Aromasin 25mg/ED
5-12 Aromasin 12.5mg/ED
1-12 HCG 500iu/w 250iu bi-weekly shots
13-15 HCG 1000iu/w

15-18 Nolvadex and Aromasin at a 40/40/20/20 25/25/12.5/12.5 mg/ED level respectively.

Prolactrone at 3 caps a day during Tren

Will be running adv cycle support 2 weeks before cycle start and thru week 4, will be taking Liv 52 as well.
Nizoral, Toco8 and Spectral DNC for hairloss


My main question is, do I need to switch the nolva for clomid? and if so what doses should I run it at for PCT. I've heard clomid is really harsh so I've shied away from it but if its necessary then its necessary.

 

[Tysdon]

Bump? It seems to be a 50/50 kind of thing other places but I trust yalls opinion over random Google searches

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[james-27]

Yes switch to clomid. Tren is a 19nor and nolva should never be ran with a 19nor. Pct should look like 100/100/50/50

 

[Tysdon]

Yes switch to clomid. Tren is a 19nor and nolva should never be ran with a 19nor. Pct should look like 100/100/50/50

Even tho I'll be using the nolva 2 weeks after my last injection? Just making double sure I don't have to use clomid if its not necessary

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[iSteroids]

Yes switch to clomid. Tren is a 19nor and nolva should never be ran with a 19nor. Pct should look like 100/100/50/50

tren and nolva is a bad idea, totally agreed, the sides can be nasty at least happened to me that way

http://www.isteroids.com/steroids/nolvadex-tamoxifen-citrate.html

 

[theCaptn']

Hit the tren ace Ed for less sides

 

[Tysdon]

Hit the tren ace Ed for less sides

Idk if I'm ready to pin ed tho hah. Does it make that big of a difference? Because I'm all for less sides

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[Standard Donkey]

Idk if I'm ready to pin ed tho hah. Does it make that big of a difference? Because I'm all for less sides

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sides should be reduced and overall effectiveness should be increased with ED pinning of tren ace

 

[theCaptn']

sides should be reduced and overall effectiveness should be increased with ED pinning of tren ace

Backload slin pins, it's far more comfortable to pin ED that way

 

[fredlabrute]

That's funny, everywhere on that board, i've seen peoples talking about how tren ace is better than tren e! From an effective standpoint, it really is mg for mg, and no need to be a chemical expert and to calcul esther weght and so on to realize that...But the fact is than me and most of my friend find the enanthate version of tren way better when it comes to sides!!! But it seems to be your first try with that compound so go for the ace version, and then for next cycles, switch to the enanthate version and give me some feedback!

 

[larry79]

Just curious: Why would you run Aromasin 25mg/ed for Weeks 1-4, you trying to front load it ?

 

[Goodskie]

Backload slin pins, it's far more comfortable to pin ED that way

Backload?

 

[Standard Donkey]

Backload?

put the juice in the back of the slin pin using a larger needle cause it will take forever to draw that shit

 

[Tysdon]

Just curious: Why would you run Aromasin 25mg/ed for Weeks 1-4, you trying to front load it ?

Ill be using dbol for the first 4 weeks and last time I used this aromasin it was elevated on 12.5mg a day w only 500mg test a week so I'll use 25mg/d while on dbol to control e2

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[Tysdon]

put the juice in the back of the slin pin using a larger needle cause it will take forever to draw that shit

I never understood pinning with slin pins. Do u mean the damn u300 pins with the baby ass needle? Has does that reach the muscle. If not that could you possibly link me to the pin you're talking about. I've seen this a lot just never understood it

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[THEWIZARDOFKOZ]

Yes switch to clomid. Tren is a 19nor and nolva should never be ran with a 19nor. Pct should look like 100/100/50/50

im going to be running something similar to this, thanks for the advice regarding not using nolva.

 

[Tysdon]

Anymore info on slin pins? And also does prolactrone need to be run in my PCT?

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