local UGL vs Asia Pharm, Gen-shi..etc

[Mike Arnold]

Where at? My Watson is 112 without insurance at rite aid. Of course I get for 12 bucks.

Exactly,...this kid is talking out of his ass! I pay $120 without insuarance...and I have checked pharmacuies and compounding pharms all over the country...and that includes generics! I am glad you posted this...because if this kid is only paying $60 for his "name-brand" test (his mommy probably picks up his script each time and uses her insurance without him even knowing, which means he has shitty insusrance...LOL) i want to know where so i can get that deal too!

 

[independent]

Whooooah, buddy. Slow down a bit. First of all, I don't work for WP...and I wasn't justying anything. I was simply sttating a basic fact, which is that pharm-grade/GMP made gear is more costly than Chinese powders...and that products which fall in this category have stricter quality control guidelines in place. How you can argue with that is beyond me. Obviously, you are making assumptions about things I never said. Otherwise, you wouldn't be atempting to refute this basic truth.

So, what I said about quality & pricing of pharm-grade/GMP gear in comparisn to UGL gear, is absolutely correct. if you deny that, you're either no too smart...or you are a troll. before I jump to conclusions, let me ask you if that's what you really believe. Do you believe Chinese powders cost as much to make and purchase as pharm-grade/GMP produced gear? If so, you're smoking crack, buddy! Also, do you really think the Chinese powders are made with the same level of quality control as a phamarceutical grade drug...or any drug made under GMP guidelines? Again, if so, you're smoking crack. If you can't understand this basic truth, something is wrong with you.

Before I end, I just want to point out that the only thing you said in your entire post, which you apparently think contradicts my statement, is that you paid $60 for your vial of depo testosterone and American pharmacies have the strictest guidelines. that;s all you aid. For one, no one ever said American Pharmacies don't have the strictest guidelines...because they do, although several other European countries rival the U.S. in this respect. So, I don't really understand how that contradicts my post. Two, I can tell you with 100% certainty that most testosterone sold on U.S pharmacies (without insuarance), including generics, cost between $90-$130 dollars per 10 ml vial. This includes numerous big-name pharmacies and stretches across several regions...perhaps even nationwide. I have a prescription for Depo-testosterone...have for over 10 yars now...and I have checked numerous pharmacies all over my state (Ohio, not exactly know for extravagent living costs) in order to find the lowest price. I have also contacted numerous compounding pharmacies in and out of state, almost all of which fell in that price range. So, if you are getting your "brand-name" Phizer depo-testosterone (2 gram vial) for $60, that is awesome and I would ike you to tell me where you are getting it, so I can get it myself. I have no problem ordering from out of state or using a compounding pharmacy. If you want to confirm the average cost of testosterone at the typical pharmacy, I can provide phone numbers a dozen big-name pharms over the north-eastern United States, all of which will quote you a price within that range, including generics.

Just a little tip. Next time, try to stay on topic...and when attempting to argue with someone, at least make sure your argument is applicable to the point at hand! Otherwise, you are only doing yourself a disservice, as it makes you look like either a troll, someone who responds to posts before fully reading them, or someone who is lacking in intelligence. Quite frankly, based on your irrelevant argument, I am leaing towards the latter, but this could just be an off day for you.

You obviously didnt understand my post. The cost of ap gear cannot be justified because of its fda gmp quality. American made test doesnt even cost that much on the high end. You cant tell me gear made in thailand which is a shithole rivals the u.s.

Get your script at costco btw. Want me scan the reciept for you?

 

[World-Pharma.org]

You obviously didnt understand my post. The cost of ap gear cannot be justified because of its fda gmp quality. American made test doesnt even cost that much on the high end. You cant tell me gear made in thailand which is a shithole rivals the u.s.

Get your script at costco btw. Want me scan the reciept for you?

Dear guy, Asia Pharma is not made in Thailand...
My now offer buy 5 get 5 free come out 10ml gear from 75-88$ ...so..dont say expensive!

 

[Mike Arnold]

^^^ i need to do this... Your dr. allows your to pin at home? mine will only do office visits.

You need to get a new doctor, buddy...right away! Any doctor who will not allow a grown man on TRT to inject himself at home is ONLY intrested in maximizing his profits, as he knows he can charge you (or your insurance, rather) a small fortune by seeing him every week or two. He is making a pretty penny off your ass (no pun intended), just to do 2 minutes or work. It is completely unreasnable to expect a man who is on life-long TRT to see hin in the office every 2 weeks for your "shot". That is pure hogshit and a completely selfish decision on his part. In fact, I would go so far as to say it unethical. It is VERY common and VERY normal for millions of people across the U.S, including TRT patients, to administer their own injects at home when using a life-long medication. The ONLY doctors who would oppose that are the ones more concerned with their bank account than what is in your best interest. I don't care how "nice" this guys seems to be when you speak with him. He probably is "nice" because he knows he is more likely to continue fucking you up the ass each week if he treats you well...all the while charging your insurance the price of a regular office vist for 2 minutes of his time (or his assitant's time; even worse).

 

[skinnyguy180]

Whooooah, buddy. Slow down a bit. First of all, I don't work for WP...and I wasn't justying anything. I was simply sttating a basic fact, which is that pharm-grade/GMP made gear is more costly than Chinese powders...and that products which fall in this category have stricter quality control guidelines in place. How you can argue with that is beyond me. Obviously, you are making assumptions about things I never said. Otherwise, you wouldn't be atempting to refute this basic truth.

So, what I said about quality & pricing of pharm-grade/GMP gear in comparisn to UGL gear, is absolutely correct. if you deny that, you're either no too smart...or you are a troll. before I jump to conclusions, let me ask you if that's what you really believe. Do you believe Chinese powders cost as much to make and purchase as pharm-grade/GMP produced gear? If so, you're smoking crack, buddy! Also, do you really think the Chinese powders are made with the same level of quality control as a phamarceutical grade drug...or any drug made under GMP guidelines? Again, if so, you're smoking crack. If you can't understand this basic truth, something is wrong with you.

Before I end, I just want to point out that the only thing you said in your entire post, which you apparently think contradicts my statement, is that you paid $60 for your vial of depo testosterone and American pharmacies have the strictest guidelines. that;s all you aid. For one, no one ever said American Pharmacies don't have the strictest guidelines...because they do, although several other European countries rival the U.S. in this respect. So, I don't really understand how that contradicts my post. Two, I can tell you with 100% certainty that most testosterone sold on U.S pharmacies (without insuarance), including generics, cost between $90-$130 dollars per 10 ml vial. This includes numerous big-name pharmacies and stretches across several regions...perhaps even nationwide. I have a prescription for Depo-testosterone...have for over 10 yars now...and I have checked numerous pharmacies all over my state (Ohio, not exactly know for extravagent living costs) in order to find the lowest price. I have also contacted numerous compounding pharmacies in and out of state, almost all of which fell in that price range. So, if you are getting your "brand-name" Phizer depo-testosterone (2 gram vial) for $60, that is awesome and I would ike you to tell me where you are getting it, so I can get it myself. I have no problem ordering from out of state or using a compounding pharmacy. If you want to confirm the average cost of testosterone at the typical pharmacy, I can provide phone numbers a dozen big-name pharms over the north-eastern United States, all of which will quote you a price within that range, including generics.

Just a little tip. Next time, try to stay on topic...and when attempting to argue with someone, at least make sure your argument is applicable to the point at hand! Otherwise, you are only doing yourself a disservice, as it makes you look like either a troll, someone who responds to posts before fully reading them, or someone who is lacking in intelligence. Quite frankly, based on your irrelevant argument, I am leaing towards the latter, but this could just be an off day for you.

For someone who seems to enjoy writing your comprehension is lacking.

You clearly stated that WP gear cost more because of the guidelines used to make it and the cost of the operation.

He clearly stated that his US FDA approved gear cost significantly less. And with your given explanation as to why asia pharm gear cost more his gear should cost even more possibly double cause the process, guidelines and cost of manufacturing are higher here. Which should bamboozal you and your explanation.

 

[Mike Arnold]

I see you didnt answer the question. Because you cant.

Not only do you have no idea who you are talking to...you also sound dumb as hell.

What is with this board? I have seen more retards over here in 2 weeks than I have on some other boards in a year...LOL. However, the great members we do have balance it out for the rest of us. :0. Serioulsy though...it seems we attract a new retard every few days. Haha.

 

[jay_steel]

i dont get AAS from him, still get it from my source, but I have been thinking about doing it for my cruising dosage. I just think it would be a pain in the ass to get my test levels low again for blood work for him and ect when I want to compete and it might interfere with planned cycles.

 

[skinnyguy180]

Not only do you have no idea who you are talking to...you also sound dumb as hell.

What is with this board? I have seen more retards over here in 2 weeks than I have on some other boards in a year...LOL. However, the great members we do have balance it out for the rest of us. :0. Serioulsy though...it seems we attract a new retard every few days. Haha.

Yeah there was this guy like last week suggesting tren to noobs.......WTF

 

[hoyle21]

Dear guy, Asia Pharma is not made in Thailand...
My now offer buy 5 get 5 free come out 10ml gear from 75-88$ ...so..dont say expensive!

Which is completely in range with other international suppliers.

 

[Mike Arnold]

I keep hearing about all these abcesses. With the amount of ugl Gear users on this site and given that "so many people end up getting infections and abcesses (or worse) from some UGL gear". You would think that the Anabolic section would be riddled with people with abcess questions.

Instead you get a lot of PIP questions and and false alarms?

But wp (no denying his gear is good) would have you believe its alot more prevalant than it is. I have nothing against WP and have almost pulled the trigger a couple times......... That aquabolic has been calling my name for some time now.

I guess it depends on what you consider common. Abcesses don't occur that frequently...and many people go their entire life injecting UGL gear without any major problems, but it does happen on occasion...and is more prevalent with the less professional (and less caring) UGL's. Fortunately, we have several very good UGL's out there who go to great lengths to ensure their products approach pharma-garde to the best of theur ability. By sticiking with tried & true UGL's over the years, I have NEVER had an infection or abcess in my life, depsite a ton of injections. If you look into the scene a bit, it is relatively easy to find the good guys, drastically eliminating the possibility of ending up with an abcess/infection. Lastly, we should not discount the fact that in many cases, abcesses and infections are due to improper injection practices (lack of proper sterilization prior to injecting).

 

[Mike Arnold]

You obviously didnt understand my post. The cost of ap gear cannot be justified because of its fda gmp quality. American made test doesnt even cost that much on the high end. You cant tell me gear made in thailand which is a shithole rivals the u.s.

Get your script at costco btw. Want me scan the reciept for you?

Yes, I completely understood your post. You took my post out of context and put words in my mouth, which I don't apprecaite. Everything I stated in my post was true, but you decided to start an argument which previously did not exist.

 

[independent]

Dear guy, Asia Pharma is not made in Thailand...
My now offer buy 5 get 5 free come out 10ml gear from 75-88$ ...so..dont say expensive!

Now were talking. So where is ap made?

 

[independent]

Yes, I completely understood your post. You took my post out of context and put words in my mouth, which I don't apprecaite. Everything I stated in my post was true, but you decided to start an argument which previously did not exist.

Did you call costco yet? Dont want to look stupid again?

 

[ordawg1]

I see you didnt answer the question. Because you cant.

I actually did answer you Moe.I am not into arguing or flaming-just giving my perspectiv for the OP to evaluate.I have NOTHING against UGL and have probably been around this since many of you were born.As for Thailand being a shit hole-I suppose parts are and other parts are not-just like the USA.I have no dog in this fight and my main concern is members get factual information.I DO know a "lil" about testing protocol both with bloodtest and other.I have also spent time in Thailand and other countries observing operations.
I am "assumming" you have used WP prods -tested-evaluated and are not happy ? That being the case-a prudent person would move on or settle up with the man.This is called " doing business" .At one time Hoyle had an issue with WP and was very vocal about said situation.It appears he has had a change of heart ? Perhaps PM him as he is an intelligent member and might be worth your time.Best of luck with your endeavors-Enough Said-Thank You-OD

 

[independent]

I actually did answer you Moe.I am not into arguing or flaming-just giving my perspectiv for the OP to evaluate.I have NOTHING against UGL and have probably been around this since many of you were born.As for Thailand being a shit hole-I suppose parts are and other parts are not-just like the USA.I have no dog in this fight and my main concern is members get factual information.I DO know a "lil" about testing protocol both with bloodtest and other.I have also spent time in Thailand and other countries observing operations.
I am "assumming" you have used WP prods -tested-evaluated and are not happy ? That being the case-a prudent person would move on or settle up with the man.This is called " doing business" .At one time Hoyle had an issue with WP and was very vocal about said situation.It appears he has had a change of heart ? Perhaps PM him as he is an intelligent member and might be worth your time.Best of luck with your endeavors-Enough Said-Thank You-OD

My point is the cost cannot be justified weather its human grade or a ugl.

 

[hoyle21]

My point is the cost cannot be justified weather its human grade or a ugl.

Lets just say it's the best UGL around for arguments sake. If you wait for a sale is $75 that out of line for a schedule III pharmaceutical with no prescription?

 

[independent]

Dear guy, Asia Pharma is not made in Thailand...
My now offer buy 5 get 5 free come out 10ml gear from 75-88$ ...so..dont say expensive!

Lets just say it's the best UGL around for arguments sake. If you wait for a sale is $75 that out of line for a schedule III pharmaceutical with no prescription?

No. But there is another vendor that sells ap cyp for 60.00.

 

[Mike Arnold]

My comments are in bold, below...

For someone who seems to enjoy writing your comprehension is lacking.
I would counter by stating the opposite.

You clearly stated that WP gear cost more because of the guidelines used to make it and the cost of the operation.
Cost more than what? Chinese made powders, which is where almost UGL's get their powders from? Yes, I did state that, and it is absolutely true.

He clearly stated that his US FDA approved gear cost significantly less.
I will address this below.

And with your given explanation as to why asia pharm gear cost more his gear should cost even more possibly double cause the process, guidelines and cost of manufacturing are higher here. Which should bamboozal you and your explanation.[
Wait a second...did you just say that I stated that WP gear should cost more than his gear (American made)? I don't EVER recall stating that...because I didn't. I NEVER compared ANY american made gear against WP gear...and I certainly never compared his "single" (non-typical) product against WP. Now that you have also demonstrated the ability to take things out of context, put words in other people's mouths, and attribute beliefs to people which do not exist, I don't think my comprehension is the one that needs work. See below for your proper ass-ripping.

Like I said previously, I was not justfying the "price" of any products WP sells, I was ONLY stating why they cost more than chinese made powders. That's it....period. Bringing up a botle of depo test is irrelevant as to whether or not pharm-grade/GMP made gear costs more than Chinese powders.

Since vitrualy ALL 10 ml vials of test cost between about $100-$130 without insuarance in the United states, incluidng generics, I can only assume that he is buying his test from a place which runs a special program, much like Walmart nows offers Humulin R for only $24, while every other pharmacy still sells it for between $50-$60. His $60 price does NOT reflect the averge price for testosterone in the U.S. and it certainly does NOT represent the average cost of other American made steroids...not by a FUCKING LONGSHOT! So, if you want to compare gear...then start comparing the same gear...and let's begin to look at the prices of various American made steroids in comparison to WP gear.

Let's begin with Anadrol. American-made Anadrol costs about $20 per FUCKING PILL! Nandrolone Decanoate cost Hundreds of dollars per 10 ml vial. Anavar costs many hundreds of dollars for just 500 mg's of gear. Winstrol also costs hundreds for a 10 ml vial. That is whole Lot more money than what WP charges for his pharm-grade/GMP gear. Are you still following along? I hope so, because by using that $60 price tag (wholly un-typical of American made gear) to argue that American steroids cost less than WP pharm-grade/GMP gear, you are showing YOUR idiocy! The typical American made steroid costs a mothefucking fortune...and this $60 price tag is in NO WAY reflective of the average cost of American steroids. So, don't even begin to tell me that WP charges more than Amerian pharmacies...because you would be fucking wrong, son!

Now, WP sells several different brands of gear, all of which are either pharm-grade or GMP, but even then, the price fo different products can vary enomously. For example, Schering made Primobolan is going to cost more to make and purchase than many other steroids. Taking this into consideration, WP only charges about $70-$80 per vial, which is WAY fucking less than the average American made steroid equivalent. There is no way in fuck you will find ANY American made steroids, aside from his special program $60 test, which even begin to compare to what WP charges. Quite honestly, this post of your surprises me. I figured you had the ability to look at the bigger picture. Instead, you use a solitary, non-typical example of American gear as the basis for stating that WP charges more than American pharms and you then used that example to slam WP's prices. NOT smart. Get your shit together...I expect more out of you.

In conclusion, paying $70-$80 per vials is not bad AT ALL, especially when you take into consideration the fact that there ARE greater costs involved. Anyone with any knowledge of this industry understands that chinese powders are the VERY cheapest way to buy and make steroids, which is why so many UGL's purchase from these chinese facilities. Think about it...if it was cheaper to import gear from foreign pharmacies or produce steroids using GMP guidelines than it was to buy chinese powders, don't you think every UGL in the world would be doing it? Damn...this is getting tiring...and this argument is about to come to a close, as I will not put up with anymore bullshit from people who don't have a clue what they are talking about. No on else will be slamming WP anymore either...he is a paying sponsor and has abided within the rules of his sponsorship. If you don't want to pay the $70-$80 dollars per vial he charges, then don't...but please refrain from spewing out these bullshit statements, asking why WP charges more for his gear than American Pharamacies do, when that is clearly a motherfucking joke.

 

[Mike Arnold]

i dont get AAS from him, still get it from my source, but I have been thinking about doing it for my cruising dosage. I just think it would be a pain in the ass to get my test levels low again for blood work for him and ect when I want to compete and it might interfere with planned cycles.

I hear ya'. That is a decision only you can make.

 

[Mike Arnold]

Did you call costco yet? Dont want to look stupid again?

Read post above.

 

[Mike Arnold]

My point is the cost cannot be justified weather its human grade or a ugl.

Sure it can...see post above. You have simply been unable (or unwilling) to see the bigger picture. $70-$80 per vial is really not bad at all, considering it does cost more to make/buy than steroida derived from Chinese powders. Being that WP alays has sales running and is more than willing to make sure his customers are happy, prices like this pop up all the time. You certainly don't expect pharm-grade/GMP gear to cost as little as gear made fom chinese powders, do you. If you read my post above, you would see that Aerican steroids cost far, far more than WP gear...and WP gear costs just a bit more than most UGL gear. it all line sup pretty well. Well, at least it lines upo with Chinese powder and WP gear. American steroids...now that is an absolute atrocity. There is absolutely no way to justify the price of Amerian gear. $20 per Anadrol tab...hundreds of dollars for a single vial of deca or Winstrol...many hundreds for 500 mg of Var....and I could go on. Those prices are ridcululous, but at $70-$80 a pop, WP prices are pretty decent for what you get. Now, whether someone feels it is worth paying those few extra dollars will depend on several factors, but this vendetta you have against WP is completely misguided. Failing to see the bigger picture in this comparison has caused you to evaluate the situation incorrectly.

 

[Mike Arnold]

Now were talking. So where is ap made?

Now were talking? It has ALWAYS been this way! This entire time you have been blasting the hell out of WP, making these off the wall comparisons...and now you say..."now were talking" because you finally realize what the prices are?

 

[Mike Arnold]

Yeah there was this guy like last week suggesting tren to noobs.......WTF

Yeah, you took a hard ass-slamming in that thread...perhaps we should place the link here for others to read? We should start at the top. What do you say...would you like to re-open some of those arguments, specifically the one regarding trenbolone and prolactin? I let it go and actually forgot you were even the one saying that stuff, but apparently your resentment over the ass-pounding you took still has you a little sore toward me?

 

[independent]

Read post above.

Did you call costco. Didnt think so.

 

[nspaletta]

Look simply put wp has good quality gear. We all get that. Us pharmacy gear is good quality as well I've ran Watson cyp for over a year before. Now the ugl I use right now his cyp is just as good as Watson and I pay $70 for 2ml. I was just saying you can't find good quality for cheaper we are lucky to have so many ugl around that take pride in there quality

 

[vannesb]

I see you didnt answer the question. Because you cant.

Are you kidding! Since you have been around awhile I would think you would already have new that he knows his shit when it comes to AAS testing being one of them..

 

[Mike Arnold]

Did you call costco. Didnt think so.

I did answer you...I typed out my response in the post above. I already told you this. Sorry that I didn't feel like re-typing the entire thing. Jeeesh, cut me a break.

However, I am wondering why you have COMPLELTLY ignored EVERY post I have put up in response to your comments? Since you wanted to engage me in this debate, you should at least 'respond' to what I wrote, but you will never do that...just like skinny guy wouldn't last week...because you know damn well you will be holding your knees by the end of it.

You have put up multiple posts now directed specifically towards me, asking me several questions, all of which I responded to...yet you have ignored every single response I posted up. Telling, isn't it? You can't play these games here and get away with it, kid. We all see through it. Ignoring someone response and then continuing to re-post the same question over and over as if the other person did not respond is an old-school tactic which does NOT work. It shines a bright light on your brutal failure to win this argument. You would have been better off posting nothing...at least then people "might" have thought you left the thread before seeing it. Try again.

 

[Mike Arnold]

Look simply put wp has good quality gear. We all get that. Us pharmacy gear is good quality as well I've ran Watson cyp for over a year before. Now the ugl I use right now his cyp is just as good as Watson and I pay $70 for 2ml. I was just saying you can't find good quality for cheaper we are lucky to have so many ugl around that take pride in there quality

I too ran Wayson cyp for several years...love it...but you're right, in terms of potency, there are good UGL's out there who do dose their products correctly (or close) a good deal of the time. Becaue of this, it wil be impossible to tell any difference in 'results" between the two. Now, as you know, there are also many UGL products which don't come close to meeting label claims. The UGL world is filled with dosing and sterility issues. Assuming potency is not an issue, the primary difference between Watson cyp and a proplery dosed UGL would be in the area of purity and sterility. Often, these issues go unnocticed because the user can't feel himself injecting heavy metals or other by-products. Some UGL's have even been known to sub one steroid for another because it is either cheaper and/or readily available. So, there are certainly differences between Watson test cyp and UGL's, but as long as the oppration is being run correctly, the user generally won't experience any problems from this stuff.

 

[skinnyguy180]

My comments are in bold, below...








Like I said previously, I was not justfying the "price" of any products WP sells, I was ONLY stating why they cost more than chinese made powders. That's it....period. Bringing up a botle of depo test is irrelevant as to whether or not pharm-grade/GMP made gear costs more than Chinese powders.

Since vitrualy ALL 10 ml vials of test cost between about $100-$130 without insuarance in the United states, incluidng generics, I can only assume that he is buying his test from a place which runs a special program, much like Walmart nows offers Humulin R for only $24, while every other pharmacy still sells it for between $50-$60. His $60 price does NOT reflect the averge price for testosterone in the U.S. and it certainly does NOT represent the average cost of other American made steroids...not by a FUCKING LONGSHOT! So, if you want to compare gear...then start comparing the same gear...and let's begin to look at the prices of various American made steroids in comparison to WP gear.

Let's begin with Anadrol. American-made Anadrol costs about $20 per FUCKING PILL! Nandrolone Decanoate cost Hundreds of dollars per 10 ml vial. Anavar costs many hundreds of dollars for just 500 mg's of gear. Winstrol also costs hundreds for a 10 ml vial. That is whole Lot more money than what WP charges for his pharm-grade/GMP gear. Are you still following along? I hope so, because by using that $60 price tag (wholly un-typical of American made gear) to argue that American steroids cost less than WP pharm-grade/GMP gear, you are showing YOUR idiocy! The typical American made steroid costs a mothefucking fortune...and this $60 price tag is in NO WAY reflective of the average cost of American steroids. So, don't even begin to tell me that WP charges more than Amerian pharmacies...because you would be fucking wrong, son!

Now, WP sells several different brands of gear, all of which are either pharm-grade or GMP, but even then, the price fo different products can vary enomously. For example, Schering made Primobolan is going to cost more to make and purchase than many other steroids. Taking this into consideration, WP only charges about $70-$80 per vial, which is WAY fucking less than the average American made steroid equivalent. There is no way in fuck you will find ANY American made steroids, aside from his special program $60 test, which even begin to compare to what WP charges. Quite honestly, this post of your surprises me. I figured you had the ability to look at the bigger picture. Instead, you use a solitary, non-typical example of American gear as the basis for stating that WP charges more than American pharms and you then used that example to slam WP's prices. NOT smart. Get your shit together...I expect more out of you.

In conclusion, paying $70-$80 per vials is not bad AT ALL, especially when you take into consideration the fact that there ARE greater costs involved. Anyone with any knowledge of this industry understands that chinese powders are the VERY cheapest way to buy and make steroids, which is why so many UGL's purchase from these chinese facilities. Think about it...if it was cheaper to import gear from foreign pharmacies or produce steroids using GMP guidelines than it was to buy chinese powders, don't you think every UGL in the world would be doing it? Damn...this is getting tiring...and this argument is about to come to a close, as I will not put up with anymore bullshit from people who don't have a clue what they are talking about. No on else will be slamming WP anymore either...he is a paying sponsor and has abided within the rules of his sponsorship. If you don't want to pay the $70-$80 dollars per vial he charges, then don't...but please refrain from spewing out these bullshit statements, asking why WP charges more for his gear than American Pharamacies do, when that is clearly a motherfucking joke.

Ohh your comparing the cost of powder to a finished product well that seems completely irrelevant. Seeing as how the thread was about buying gear from a ugl as apposed to wp ugl.

No one is talking about buying powders we are all talking about the finished product and the cost difference OF THE FINISHED PRODUCT. Get on the same page.

no one cares that chinese powders cost less than a vial of finished product.

 

[Mike Arnold]

Ohh your comparing the cost of powder to a finished product well that seems completely irrelevant.
Hell, please tell me that is not all you've got? This is getting really fucking stupid now...and boring. Of course I am NOT comparing the cost of raw Chinese powders to finished products. I thought it was common sense, given the nature of the argument (all about comparisons), that we were comparing finished product to finshed product. So, let me spell it out for you (ridiculous...sigh)..."Finsihed products using chinese raws cost less to make than finished pharmaceutical/GMP products. Is that clear enough for ya'...LOL.

Seeing as how the thread was about buying gear from a ugl as apposed to wp ugl.
See above.

No one is talking about buying powders we are all talking about the finished product and the cost difference OF THE FINISHED PRODUCT. Get on the same page.
Everyone, but YOU, was on the same page, dumbass. See above and "sigh" again.

no one cares that chinese powders cost less than a vial of finished product.
I didn't think anyone did, but as I said above..."Finsihed products using chinese raws cost less to make than finished pharmaceutical/GMP products."

Are you able to move on now and stop this nonsense? It has truly turned into a waste of my time...and everyone elses. If you post up one more stupid ass question like this, I will henceforth respond with this...

Anyway, I find it rather funny that out of my entire post, the only thing you could pull out of your ass in an attempt to avoid total humiliation, was this stupid ass question.