Best Protein for 15 year old?

[dieseljimmy]

My 2 and a half year old makes my strawberry Syntha 6 every morning and gets the first sip.
i would think a 15 year old should use it like all of us should use it... As a supplement to real food. My concern would be implying that additional supplements are needed to achieve whatever goal is desired. And that's a slippery slope... As evidenced by the forum that we are in...

 

[The Prototype]

Red meat, especially steak, gave me my best gains while natural. I know everyone can't afford filet every night but there are good alternatives like sirloin, flank, lean ground beef, or buying rib eye, ny strip on sale. Just my two cents.

 

[longworthb]

^^^^i buy a big ass roast and cut 10oz steaks out of it. Might not be the best cut of meat but its a hell of a lot cheaper then buying serloin etc

 

[The Prototype]

^^^^i buy a big ass roast and cut 10oz steaks out of it. Might not be the best cut of meat but its a hell of a lot cheaper then buying serloin etc

Smart. I go to Sam's and load up on steaks and freeze them. They're cheaper at Sam's than most places and the quality is good.

 

[ChickDiesel]

A simple 100% Whey is best for a growing body.

 

[bjg]

2 months ago my friend had to be hospitalized for a week because of creatine deposits in his kidneys.......i had a long discussion with his doctor...
..and for me it is case closed: stopped all kinds of protein powders and supplements , threw them away...and you know what??? after 2 months i feel much better than before and in better shape...all , i mean ALL supplements are poison and bullshit ..it is all psychological ...and i don't care what anybody say or any research period. just eat healthy and train smart and healthy.

 

[hypo_glycemic]

Most protein fillers/ peptides are full of garbage. For a 15 year old I would suggest macro nutrients and for filler protein maybe Collegiate Muscle Milk or a fast acting hydrolyzed isolate manufactured without hidden additives that could possibly change values after prolonged usage. My family has a supplement store/ stores, and there's. lots of parents that want their kid to get big and string for sports, so it's a very common question. IMO, creatine ethyl ester would be fine if creatine deficient-- which most 15 year olds are. I get this question all the time being a high school football coach lol...

 

[Merkaba]

2 months ago my friend had to be hospitalized for a week because of creatine deposits in his kidneys.......i had a long discussion with his doctor...
..and for me it is case closed: stopped all kinds of protein powders and supplements , threw them away...and you know what??? after 2 months i feel much better than before and in better shape...all , i mean ALL supplements are poison and bullshit ..it is all psychological ...and i don't care what anybody say or any research period. just eat healthy and train smart and healthy.

You don't care what anyone says(or research).... Why should we care what you say?

 

[BlueJayMuscle]

2 months ago my friend had to be hospitalized for a week because of creatine deposits in his kidneys.......i had a long discussion with his doctor...
..and for me it is case closed: stopped all kinds of protein powders and supplements , threw them away...and you know what??? after 2 months i feel much better than before and in better shape...all , i mean ALL supplements are poison and bullshit ..it is all psychological ...and i don't care what anybody say or any research period. just eat healthy and train smart and healthy.

I mean yeah if you can get enough protein/vitamins/aminos from whole foods that's awesome! But that is extremely expensive and a LOT of eating.

So all the power to you, but I'll stick with my supps. I don't have the money or stomach capacity for 3+ grams of vitamin c from whole foods. That's just one example

 

[nikos_]

eggs,tuna,chicken breast,
teenager's bitch breast also

 

[bjg]

i am ok with vitamin pills and fish oil pills, but excess of it is useless, you really don't need more than 0.5g of vitmin C a day the rest will go in your urine and be a burden to your kidneys ...more is not better...
i was talking about protein powder supplements, creatine supplements, in my opinion and my own experience i believe they are all detrimental to your health and are also useless....of course my view on bodybuilding is probably different than many ....for me health is a very important factor in bodybuilding: i would not use a supplement if it is bad for my health even if it is going to make me bigger,
and the only supplements that really make a difference are steroids and hormonal supplements and that for me is completely out of question, i am not a professional bodybuilder. So it all depends on your views on bodybuilding and on your goals.

 

[bjg]

i have no problem with vitamins and fish oil ..but an excess of it is useless and makes your kidneys work harder....
i was talking about powder protein supplements and creatine....they can be easily replaced by food and they are really useless and harmful in the long run...that is my opinion.
Any supplement that can make a difference is hormonal like steroids and that is out of the question for me....
bodybuilding for me is mostly about health then looks...i am not a pro and i don't wish to be ...so it all depends on your goals and your views about bodybuilding

 

[BlueJayMuscle]

i am ok with vitamin pills and fish oil pills, but excess of it is useless, you really don't need more than 0.5g of vitmin C a day the rest will go in your urine and be a burden to your kidneys ...more is not better...
i was talking about protein powder supplements, creatine supplements, in my opinion and my own experience i believe they are all detrimental to your health and are also useless....of course my view on bodybuilding is probably different than many ....for me health is a very important factor in bodybuilding: i would not use a supplement if it is bad for my health even if it is going to make me bigger,
and the only supplements that really make a difference are steroids and hormonal supplements and that for me is completely out of question, i am not a professional bodybuilder. So it all depends on your views on bodybuilding and on your goals.

I take 3-4g vitamin c per day and I notice massive differences between if I take 2g or 3G of vitamin c in a day. Vitamin c is also a cortisol blocker and opens up your mucus membranes so taking vitamin c with any other supplements enhances their effects. I take it preworkout with 20g bcaa and I feel fantastic and muscles feel very full and fatigue is definitely prolonged.

To say such a broad statement as "protein powder supplements, creatine supplements, in my opinion and my own experience i believe they are all detrimental to your health and are also useless" is not only unwarranted but simply incorrect. There are leaps and bounds of research and millions of firsthand experiences that counter that statement. How do you account for that?

You can hold that opinion all you want and I'm not stopping you or trying to change your opinion. I'm just saying its unwarranted.

By the way, about half of my protein in a day is from whey isolate and I take in about 20g of creatine mono per day.

Ps. Not starting conflict or anything just enjoying a friendly debate!

 

[bjg]

^^^^^ i am not starting a conflict either but believe me most of the vitamin C you are taking is going in the toilet. it won't harm you but it won't help either...there is a big psychological factor playing in here ...if you think they help... then you will feel that they are and you will have more energy and workout harder...so in other words it works for you as a psychological motivation but not as a biological booster.
as far as protein , it is necessary but not in excess ..it must come from natural food, supplements should be used only as a SUPPLEMENT and never as a REPLACEMENT. so if you can get protein from food then you really do not need supplements. Also supplements contain lots of artificial crap, the combination of artificial stuff in addition with the excess of protein is bad for your kidneys , it won't hurt in 1 or 2 years or maybe even in 5 years but in the long run your kidneys will be affected.
Now i would strongly recommend you to stop creatine supplements, you have got to believe me on that one...i won't argue and dig up articles,( i even defended creatine for a while), but creatine in the long run is bad news for your kidneys especially the excess of it. you should check your blood creatine level before continuing supplementation with creatine. On top of that it does not help at all besides water retention, blood pressure, and all the bad stuff. forget what the internet crap says ask a competent nephrologue or urologist and you will get your answers.
Again a lot of it is in your head, try to find a healthier motivation and i bet you you will get better results.

 

[heckler7]

protien shakes are great for in between meals when its hard to eat all those extra calories during a bulk.

 

[bjg]

^^ true also pure whey protein shakes benefits is that you get the protein without the fat because many protein rich food are also rich in fat....but still i would not use them anymore.and they could only be used as supplements and not as a basic protein source

 

[Lucas22]

not There protein age.


Protein and protein.


consume meat, milk, whey protein .. etc..

 

[KILLEROFSAINTS]

2 months ago my friend had to be hospitalized for a week because of creatine deposits in his kidneys.......i had a long discussion with his doctor...
..and for me it is case closed: stopped all kinds of protein powders and supplements , threw them away...and you know what??? after 2 months i feel much better than before and in better shape...all , i mean ALL supplements are poison and bullshit ..it is all psychological ...and i don't care what anybody say or any research period. just eat healthy and train smart and healthy.

prove it

 

[dave 236]

Im with KOS. I have a very hard time believing this. I take creatine year round at a minimum of 5 grams a day and during certain times up to 20 grams a day and whey powder is essential in getting my protein up to where i need it to be w/o extra calories or having to force down more fish and chicken. I have lab work done 2 times a year at least. Ive yet to have any issues with kidney function. Creatinine levels are evaluated through a blood test. If your friend had deposits of creatine in his kidneys then he has an issue with the basement membrane of his glomerulas.


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[Valkyrie]

Doctors.
LOL.

 

[jusvicious]

Stop humoring bjg. Everything is ba for u. Don't do anything. I guess liftin weights are bad too? Squats are bad for your back, behind the neck military press will kill your shoulders don't do dead lift may rip your spine right out your back!!! Stop being an ass. Come on a BB web site and say everything about BB is bad. And bluejay I am starting an argument not a discussion!! He's an idiot who spews stuff that he can't or won't back up with any facts. Just being a douche!!!!!

 

[BlueJayMuscle]

Im with KOS. I have a very hard time believing this. I take creatine year round at a minimum of 5 grams a day and during certain times up to 20 grams a day and whey powder is essential in getting my protein up to where i need it to be w/o extra calories or having to force down more fish and chicken. I have lab work done 2 times a year at least. Ive yet to have any issues with kidney function. Creatinine levels are evaluated through a blood test. If your friend had deposits of creatine in his kidneys then he has an issue with the basement membrane of his glomerulas.


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Big true

 

[jusvicious]

He's the guy that comes on here and says I'm natural and I'm bigger and stronger than all the steriod users in my gym!! DOUCHE!!!!

 

[jusvicious]

Now somebody hit me with 2cc of tren quick!!!

 

[HFO3]

Steak is a great source of protein, supplemental whey protein is getting close to the price of a good filet mignon these days, lol! That's ridiculous, I am paying roughly 10 bucks per pound of whey

 

[bjg]

prove it

i 'l let him give you a call if you send me your number....as simple as that

 

[bjg]

jusvicious: grow up ..your comments alone are by themselves side effects......

as for the rest, everyone is free to believe what he/she wants...for me it is case closed. i am 51 and have tried with supplements for years and mean YEARS and also tried without supplements.....result: better without supplements...the best supplement is your motivation and your dedication and your intelligence.... it is all in your head.

supplements are like those facial creams that are backed up by millions of research...do they work???? yes only for the brainwashed.

 

[BlueJayMuscle]

jusvicious: grow up ..your comments alone are by themselves side effects......

as for the rest, everyone is free to believe what he/she wants...for me it is case closed. i am 51 and have tried with supplements for years and mean YEARS and also tried without supplements.....result: better without supplements...the best supplement is your motivation and your dedication and your intelligence.... it is all in your head.

supplements are like those facial creams that are backed up by millions of research...do they work???? yes only for the brainwashed.

It's not a matter of if protein/creatine supplements "work" whatever that means...

Protein supplements are for exactly that.. Supplementing the amount of protein you get already to increase the rate at which your body replenishes the glycogen to your worked out muscles/ protein synthesis.

If I could get all of my protein from whole foods I would definitely. But, especially faster acting proteins like whey isolate or hydrolyzed whey for post workout, that's nearly impossible and a whole lot of fats and very expensive.

So the choice comes down to spending less money and consuming less fat with a properly timed protein or spending more money, consuming extra fats, and mistiming my post workout window all with the same grams of protein.. I'm obviously going to ick the more effective option

 

[bjg]

^^^ i would do the same ...but do you think the whey you are buying is only whey...or do you have any idea how it is processed and all the artificial crap that is in it???? if it was pure whey isolate then i would also recommend it....but heck ..the things that are included in that powder ...!

 

[BlueJayMuscle]

^^^ i would do the same ...but do you think the whey you are buying is only whey...or do you have any idea how it is processed and all the artificial crap that is in it???? if it was pure whey isolate then i would also recommend it....but heck ..the things that are included in that powder ...!

That's why I buy from trusted customizable protein companies like true nutrition and protein factory only. I understand they're not regulated by the FDA so there is a level of trust necessary and they've earned mine. So I go with them.

I do not trust nearly any commercially available brand name like any of the products at gnc haha