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TrojanMan60563

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Are they really bad for you? Is drinking milk really not a good idea? Same for cheese and other cow products. I've been told I should cut all cow products out of my diet and that milk can slow down or lessen the absorption rate of nutrients I eat. Any thoughts and opinions? I'm a huge fan of dairy products.

In addition I found out I am deficient in vitamin D which makes me wonder how much is in milk anyways because I drink like 32oz of it a day...lol So much for being fortified with D.
 
I used to drink a gallon of whole milk a day. I cut all milk out except for a little bit for my coffee and I've never looked better! I like yogurt and cheese but don't eat too much of it.
 
Swfl said:
I used to drink a gallon of whole milk a day. I cut all milk out except for a little bit for my coffee and I've never looked better! I like yogurt and cheese but don't eat too much of it.
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I love milk but I can probably do without it. I'd for sure have to cheat now and then with cheese. Cheese is on the same level as bacon when it comes to something I enjoy eating.
 
too much of anything is not good for you, your diet must be varied. you really don't need milk at adulthood, it is a matter of taste.
 
TrojanMan60563 said:
Are they really bad for you? Is drinking milk really not a good idea? Same for cheese and other cow products. I've been told I should cut all cow products out of my diet and that milk can slow down or lessen the absorption rate of nutrients I eat. Any thoughts and opinions? I'm a huge fan of dairy products.
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Do you believe everything you are told?

There's a lot of positive effects from milk.

Read...learn.

Kenny Croxdale
 
I mostly want confirmation that drinking milk and eating dairy prevents nutrients from absorbing inside the intestine. I drink about 16-24oz of skim milk a day. If anything the sugar was the only thing that I felt wasn't worth it until hearing this news.
 
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Milk and cheese isn't good for you I would not consume it. The only thing I eat from a cow is beef.
 
There aren't any nutrients in milk that you can't get from other foods.

There are mountains of research showing that those that consume less animal products and more unprocessed plant foods including legumes, vegetables, fruits and whole grains are much healthier than those that consume large amounts of animal products and processed foods.

I'm unaware of milk affecting the absorption of nutrients.
 
Little Guy said:
Grains over milk, really? Lol
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No, not grains over milk, but the healthiest humans in terms of heart disease, obesity, diabetes and cancer eat diets w very little animal products and eat lots of grains.

They're not the most jacked, but they live the longest and have far less incidence if the disease I mentioned.

Look up "blue zones" and their similarities.
 
Yeah I've noticed how healthy all the people following the grain based diet are. Not the most jacked is the least of their problems
 
If you want to be jerked, drop the dairy
 
Little Guy said:
Yeah I've noticed how healthy all the people following the grain based diet are. Not the most jacked is the least of their problems
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You mean like the Japanese, or seventh day Adventists?
 
TrojanMan60563 said:
In addition I found out I am deficient in vitamin D which makes me wonder how much is in milk anyways because I drink like 32oz of it a day...lol So much for being fortified with D.
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I did some research a while ago (didn't save any links, sorry) and found that studies on vitamin D benefits point to something in the range of 1000-5000 IU/day for best effectiveness. For people getting no fortification, not eating fatty fish, not spending time in the sun, and those with dark skin in higher latitudes, you should aim for the upper end of that range. I'm going with 2500. Pills are small and cheap.

Anyway, for fortified milk it does have the stuff but only at (typically) 100 IU/cup. So your 32oz is 400 IU/day. If you drink the whole gallon you'll be in better territory but short of that you might want to just get the pills.
 
Chocolatemalt thanks for the dose input. I was going to just start with 1000iu and see where that puts me on labs. I am going to supplement calcium too. A friend said if you're low on D you're likely low on calcium too. Gonna start with 1200mg calcium.
 
TrojanMan60563 said:
I mostly want confirmation that drinking milk and eating dairy prevents nutrients from absorbing inside the intestine.
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I would image so if you are lactose intolerant. You'd probably have issues with absorbing anything.
 
Kenny Croxdale said:
Wow, here what I like. A vague statement based on nothing to back it up.

You need to go do your homework.

Kenny Croxdale
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No sir milk and cheese will bloat you up there is no need to post a study when there is things like google! :p
 
dave 236 said:
Yeah cause the Japanese never eat animal products. What type of plant is fish btw? Or that nasty no good Kobe beef?


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Lol, I'm just making the point that the Japanese, like most of the world eat most of their calories from carbohydrate sources. If you research the longest living humans, they all eat mostly plant foods and eat 50-70% of their cals from carbohydrate sources. The areas where these people live are called blue zones.

http://www.bluezones.com/live-longer/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Zone
 
Well 10lb tub of egg whites are on their way. I hope this stuff doesn't taste horrible or I'm gonna have to get some cocoa powder or something....might do that anyways lol
 
exphys88 said:
Lol, I'm just making the point that the Japanese, like most of the world eat most of their calories from carbohydrate sources. If you research the longest living humans, they all eat mostly plant foods and eat 50-70% of their cals from carbohydrate sources. The areas where these people live are called blue zones.

How to Live Longer | Blue Zones

Blue Zone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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This might be because most of the world is poor and can't afford much or any meat products.
 
Eating grains and dairy is fine unless you have some sort of allergy to them, people who avoid all of them at all costs are misguided. I just ate dairy, a diet soda, and gluten and somehow magically I did not spontaneously combust. Dairy consumption promotes lean body mass, bodyfat loss, and improved bone preservation http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23075559 . And if you are deficient in Vitamin D just go out in the sun more and problem solved.
 
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Regular pasteurized milk, especially skim milk, is basically worthless as a source of vitamin D and Calcium. D is a fat-soluble vitamin, and Vitamin D is needed for proper absorption of Calcium. In raw milk all of this is packaged together nicely with enzymes and probiotics. Taking the fat out of milk and the pasteurization process fucks that all up so you're no better off than just taking a multivitamin.
 
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