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Mike Arnold
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I thought you said you had started close to the 160's, so I acknowledge my error there. Still, there is no disputing the fact that your training frequncy & volume are way too much. Training 10 days in row, regardless of how hard you say you trained, is a bad idea for your goals...period. In addition, your traning volume is too high for somoene 170 lbs. In fact, few people can make optimal gains doing 18 sets for biceps...even with a boat-loads of drugs. That is why most guys, even pros, do NOT do that many sets anymore for small bodyparts like biceps. It is the rare guy who will make "OPTIMAL" progress doing that many sets for bis. Obviously, you are not one of those guys. Even worse is that you did 18 stes for biceps and at least 18 sets for back on the same day. 36 working sets for biceps...and you think that is best? Come on.
No...36 lbs in 5 years is not bad (we won't count the last 5 lbs, as it is attributable to you just beginning to use drugs), but it is not good either...especially when it took you 5 years to hit 166 lbs at 5'11. You coud have made that progress in one year.
Aside from that, grow the fuck up and stop being so fucking stubborn...and stop threatening to leave the board...you sound like a child telling your mother you will kill yourself if she takes away your video games. Moving on...you say you train for strength AND to make "progress". Well, so do a lot of fucking guys. What is progress to you...gaining muscle? You already mentioned gaining strength, so what do you mean when you say "progress"? Obviously, it means muscle. The bottom line is that you are making ton of errors..and yes, everybody is different, but we all have the same basic physiology and we know by decades of experience that doing things a certain way are NOT optimal. There is a reason BB'rs don't train the way they used to in the 70's anymore...and there is a reaason why BB'rs today are so much bigger. Because back then, they were massively overtraining in both frequncy and volume....like you. So yes, everybody is different, but we are not THAT different. There are limits...and your training tyle falls outside those limits for all but the rare person...and like I said, it has already demonstrated you are NOT that rare person. So, if you want to believe you are that rare person, despite weighing 170 pounds @ 5'11 (with drugs)...then be my guest. You can either change...or you can take another 5 years to do what you could accomplish in one...and that's on you.
Your asseretion that you have not eaten or trained to become a BB'r has nothing to do with this conversation. I never said you were a "BB'r", but since you are trying to gain muscle and strength, your goals are the same. Regadless of whether you call yourself a BB'r or not, those trying to gain strength & size should follow certain general guidelines when attempting to maximize progress. Now, like I said, you might care more about the training experience than you do about progress...and because you are denying basic facts, this might be the case for you. Now, there is nothing wrong with that...some people just like to train, even if they make no progress. Lastly, who fucking cares how '"good" you feel or how often you get "sick", as if that is some kind of proof you are doing things right. There are a lot of holes, rationalization, and bullshit in your last post.
Lastly, I am happy you are content with your progress since you began the Halo Extreme...and truth be told...Halo is not a big mass-gainer, so 5 lbs in 3 weeks is not bad (although gains still should have been better for a 1st time steroid user). Anyway grow some tougher skin, fix your training mistakes, and see you on the board.
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Mike Arnold
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.......and yet 2 more HUGE mistakes being made, which are completely contradictory to your stated goals.
Aside from your extremely excessive volume and trauining frequency, you just said you performed 54 sets to failure in 1 hour and 25 minutes. That means you are only resting about 1 minute between your sets, as you need to account for the time is takes to change the weights and set up the 18 different exercises you did, etc. Sigh. Ok...where to begin. First of all, you aid in your previous post that you "train for strength and progress".
Here is the problem. You are NOT traming for strength, you are training for endurance and fat loss. Taking 60 seconds inbetween every single set is absolutely horrible and the total opposite of what you should be doing for maximizing strength gains. This is not my opinion...it is a fact, proven not only by strength athletes over the last 100 years (vurtually NO ONE would agree with you), but by science, as well. On top of that, it is not even ideal for making size gains, either....and don't guve me your bullshit about you deing different. That tyop of training will NEVER be anywhere close to optimal for adding strength....NOR adding size. Those short rest period could "occasionally" be beneficial for adding size, but only as a shock...not because they elicit an ideal hypertrophic response under normal circumstances. This type of rapid training is first & foremost ideal for muscular endurance and fat-loss.
The 2nd fallacy you just spouted is when you said "I have great conditioning and endurance, so my body type requires extreme training". Your body requires this type of high volume, endurance work for what? Running a marathon...or building muscle & strength? I have heard clients mistakenly express this same type of thinking previously. They think that because they have built exceptional endurance, that they should train even faster and do even more sets if they want to grow. They also think that if they decrease their volume and rest longer between sets that they will make less size & strength gains because they will not feel as tired, get as pumped, their msucles will not burn as bad, and they will not sweat as much. Both of these beliefs, if the goal is increased growth & strength, are 100% false and shows that the individual lacks an understanding of the muscle growth process.
I am not going to get into a scientific explanation as to how muscle grows, but I will tell you that everything I just said above is 100% fact, proven by science and real-wrold experience conclusively! You are not providing your muscles with the type of stimulis they need to achieve optimal growth. The primary stimulis needed to achieve optimal growth has nothing to do with, directly, how tired you get, how pumped you get, how much your muscles burn , or how much you sweat. Now, a "few" of those factors can stimulate growth through less pronounced mechanisms, but they will NEVER be enouggh to induce optimal growth. You are neglecting the most vital components of an effective growth & strength training program. This is why you have made some improvements in szie and strength, but not nearly as much as you could have. You are confusing your body by supplying it with two conflicting stimuli. You can't train for both maximal endurance and maximal strength simultaneously. If you do, they will both suffer. Your program is more tailored towards improving muscular and cardiovascular ebdurance...NOT strength & growth.
So, are you going to once again tell us how you refuse to correct the errors in your program...and how not everybody is the same (as if your physiology is not human like everybody elses)? You already told us your main goal was strength gains (and progress, which you did not define)...and we now know without any doubt whatsoever your training program sucks balls for strength gains. Knowing this, will you wetain your stubborness and vehemently tell me to fuck a pineapple (or whatever you said before), while still refusing to do what the entire world knows is best? I suppose we will soon see.
Mike Arnold
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Bro, my goal is to get stronger and gain a few pounds. Not to become the next Arnold. I want to be the guy that can go 12 rounds and fight his maximum potential all 12 rounds. I go hard and continue to go harder and harder each time. Maybe its one more rep, maybe one more set, maybe 2 1/2 pounds. But each week when i step into the gym im a little better. There is no way im going to goto the gym and be a pussy and not push myself past my limits. My goal for this cycle was to hit 175lbs.. I obtained that goal yesterday..without your advice.. I see what your saying and yes i get it.. You explained it in SO MANY words. Thankss
longworthb
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Basically what mike is trying to say is if you want to gain more weight u need to drop the amount of sets and reps down. Up the weight and do less reps bro. U will gain more mass this way. A nice workout plan to do this is 5x5. Take a look and give it a shot for a few weeks and see how that treats you. You may think your way is the best way for you but how do u know this if u don't try to switch it up? Give it a shot bro. I train pyramid style basically. 12 rep warmup then 8 rep 6 rep 4 rep 2 rep upping the weight each time.
Qwai Chang
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Take up journalism Mike Arnold.
longworthb
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Did u switch up ur training? If ur trying to bulk I'd cut back a little on the intense cardio. If u superset when lifting and keep your heart rate up u can cut back on your cardio. I'd recommend supersetting ur chest day with push-ups. I usually bust out 20 push-ups after every set on bench. And switch it up between regular wide grip and close grip.
Mike Arnold
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I love writing. I write articles every month for IMF. There are over 50 currently posted in the articles section.
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Mike Arnold
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Damn, son...the truth hurts, doesn't it...but don't let it make you too angry. I mean, it was probably a week ago that I posted that and you're still pissed. Hell, I guess I would be too if I had been training seriously for 5 years and still weighed only 166 lbs. I suppose my post is a constant, brutal reminder of your long-term fuck-up. Still, you needed someone to bitch-slap you out of your blind stupor and into improvement.
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Lol damn ur a cock sucker, naw man, i could care less.. Ive always progressed,,, period. No regrets at all. u could probably,, well maybe, lift more weight then me(i doubt it) but i guarentee u do not have more stamina then me. I can run for miles on end, i can drop down and hit 200 push ups 1st set anywhere anytime. Etc.. Bottom line is u dont know everything and your a coward of a person to represent a company. If your the type that works for IML then fuck u and IML...the only thing ur bitch slappin is ur boyfriends ass cheeks u fuckn anal boy lol
longworthb
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This was suppose to be a log not constant bickering 
I find it ridiculous that I need to state this, but chill out Mike. You're not only a Moderator of this forum but you Represent IronMagLabs and Blackstone Labs, you need to remember that before you post and quit bashing members whether he's right or wrong. Please do not continue to antagonize him. You've stated all you need to; if you do not agree any further, leave his log. This is not doing anyone any good.
LilSolid, if you do not like Mike's posts, click his name... on the left hand side of the page you will see a link you can click that says: 'Add to Ignore List' this will block all his future posts from being seen by you. And I want to apologize on behalf of IronMagLabs and Blackstone Labs for his rude/arrogant behavior - not all of the reps treat our clientele as he does.
Mike Arnold
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Give me a fucking break! I originally posted a lot more than this, i deleted it and held my tongue, deciding to send it through PM instead. I will say this though, you are the LAST person who has any right to chastise me as an IML/BSL rep given your history...and I will leave it at that, for the "customer's" sake.
Give me a fucking break! I originally posted a lot more than this, i deleted it and held my tongue, deciding to send it through PM instead. I will say this though, you are the LAST person who has any right to chastise me as an IML/BSL rep given your history...and I will leave it at that, for the "customer's" sake.
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Mike Arnold
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Uhh...the deleted post wasn't addressed to you. After witnessing your ineptitude at being able to construct a half-way decent program in accordance with your goals, I realized you were incapable of taking decent advice. Ohhh...and we don't need to hear again how it "works for you"...or how your "body needs it"...or how it is "perfect for yor goals", etc.
Man, the fact that u'd be willing to judge a person from a response to ur rude approach at trying to get a point across just shows how ignorant and lame u really are. Id be willing to bet your a 45 year old dude that has been married twice and divorced twice. Probably have kids that dont really like ur old grumpy ass either... U will die alone. But hey atleast u will have a great workout routine.
Mike Arnold
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The least you could do is come up with something fun...the insults are old..something a newbie would post thinking it is cool. It isn't. It's like the "I know you are but what am I" thing we did in 3rd grade...not really funny anymore. Post something humurous...so at least people can laugh while we go at it...it is better that way. Thanks.
Ohhh...by the way, 36 years old...divorced once...re-married (5 year aniversary today, actually..will be leaving soon)...2 children...they adore me. Hope I don't die alone either...and yes, my workout suggestions are great. Any other questions?
The least you could do is come up with something fun...the insults are old..something a newbie would post thinking it is cool. It isn't. It's like the "I know you are but what am I" thing we did in 3rd grade...not really funny anymore. Post something humurous...so at least people can laugh while we go at it...it is better that way. Thanks.
Ohhh...by the way, 36 years old...divorced once...re-married (5 year aniversary today, actually..will be leaving soon)...2 children...they adore me. Hope I don't die alone either...and yes, my workout suggestions are great. Any other questions?
Mike Arnold
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See, Adrenolone...he likes this, which is why he did not take your advice to "ignore"...LOL.
s2h
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you can go to your settings and change to the option that allows you to go directly to your last post when you enter a thread..pm me if you cant get it figured out...i scrolled thru threads for years before i figured it out..
I do agree with this. And I do sincerely wish you a Happy Anniversary. Ours was actually on May 2nd.
You as well.
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Mike Arnold
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Even if you could, you wouldn't. Had this convo taken place in person, it likely would have gone something like this...
Mike: "Shut up, cunt".
Iil' Solid: "..........."
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This is not funny either.
Now, moving into a different subject, you said in a previous post that you doubt I am as strong as your 166 lbs self (ROFL), so I am curious to know what you consider to be "strong". What are your best lifts (from any time period)? Please refrain from saying shit like..."I did 200 push-ups in 10 minutes"...or something else not related to maximal strength. So, please list weights & reps...and try to limit it to 10 reps or less, as higher reps start to become too much about endurance, rather than maximal strength. This should be good. I can't wait to hear how 'crazy' strong you are, as you obviously think the strength you have achieved at 166 lbs is unlikely to be overcome by someone 100+ pounds your senior. Let's hear it, Kaz.
