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Looking for some guidance about how to go about getting steroids when living in US?

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I know I might get a lot of shit for asking this, but hey.
Im 19 lifting for almost 2 years and interested in trying anavar. I know im kind of young for steroids but I don't want a very powerful drug to get giant. Just maybe an 8 week cycle of anavar, that is if I can even get my hands on it.
I would appreciate any advice on this subject and also on the actual anavar drug. For those who don't simply talk down to me because im interested in steroids and a newbie at this, thank you.
 
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soooo hard to resist negging.

starting that young you will fuck yourself up and be stuck on trt the rest of your life and natural production goes bye bye
 
To young for juice. Invest your money in food, thats all you need at your age

The man is correct. Unless your a genetic freak and have the potential and desire to be a pro bb. If you asked yourself what do I mean... Your not it.
 
you would probably do good on just semen
Why do people have to be complete douche bags to people. It's easy to give criticism and not be a complete fuck about it. Ur post was pointless and retarded. Negged
 
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I get that you guys think it's a bad idea but I really don't see the point in being so negative towards me.
You're free to do so though I guess.
But just as you're free to be disrespectful about it, im free to ask questions and ultimately make my own decisions. Try not to be so negative to people, you get back what you put out into the world
 
The main argument is: He's too young. The validity of which is questionable.




In the end, the only real problem might be stunted long bone growth but he could have that checked out to know if he's finished growing.



The main questions of this thread have been raised in another one about waiting to reach genetic potential to use steroids.

I am trying to reconcile various statements mentionned here with the reality that is ''gear use''.

1)Not needing them because you are too young.

Now, even in youth, between puberty and your 30s the testosterone range is basically the same we've always seen of 300-1000 ng/dl, granted, many teens and young adults may be sligthly in the upper margins, but from what we've been able to read here and from other medical sites, the vast majority of us are in the relative low end of the spectrum.

Now, injections of 600 mg of Test Enanthate once per week raised Total Testosterone (ng/dl) from 431+-38 to 3244+-305 in an exercising group and from 502+-63 to 2828+-417 in the non exercicing group which are respectively a 7.4 and a 5.6 increast from baseline and Free Testosterone (pg/ml) going from 90+-6 to 572 +-305 in the exercing group and 79+-7 to 497+-62 in the non-exercising group which again are respectively a 6.35 an a 6.29 increase from baseline.
(the guys were 19 to 40 years of age)

So even the young in the very high high testosterone range, which are usually by definition a rarity) could still basically double or triple his total test levels and have concurrent muscle growth. Most juiced guys in the study were in their 20s, low and high 20s. (Bhasin, Storer. 1996. The effects of supraphysiological doses of testosterone on muscle size and strenght in normal men. The New England Journal of Medicine, vol 335)

While it is true that a young man, with little lifting time (post-beginners gains) under his belt could really gain a significant amount of weight by training consistenly for a number of years, it is false to assume that there would be little benefit to a cycle to accelerate muscle developpement.

2)Young and therefore low training age

It is possible to argue that being young implies low training age and therefore you would not benefit as much from your cycle than you would if you really knew how to lift correctly and properly. However, this argument seems irrelevant in this thread considering its argued that 19 is too young for steroids period, not that a guy would not make the best gains.

3)Too young for steroids, physiologically.

Now, beyond the real possibility of growth stunting that would occur in the long bones in a young person, long bone growth stops at the end of puberty which in the vast majority of boys is around 17.5 years in North America, some go on for longer but is rather rare. Post-pubertal growth being due the cartilagenous disk enlargement in the spinal and I have not seen anything that indicates whether or not they would in any way be affected by testosterone increase.

Again, if growth was the major issue, simple wrist and knee X-rays and an appointement with an pediatric endocrinologist would be sufficient to rule out further long bone growth.

4) Fucking up the endocrine system longterm.

Well unless you do something like high and long cycles of nandrolone which is mentionned to be the most suppressive, I don't see how that would even be an issue considering that even with hardcore cycles of nandrolone and proper if not longer PCTs, people regain , at least to their knowledge in term of function, their HPTA function.

So I am actually trying to understand where the too young issue comes from or if it is akin to ''your testicles will disappear forever if you touch a steroid vial''.

So what are people's actually reasonning behind the too young principle? Because last time I checked, some 2X year old guys are making rapid and impressive gains while juicing and while they probably could have gotten there in 10 years of hardcore training/nutritions, most would rather do it in 2. Especially that for many, the end, not the journey is what interests them in bodybuilding.

Anyways. ciao :lifter:
 
educate your self more on diet and training before you use gear. If you were a guru at 19 or had a trainer who was experienced monitoring your gains then its more viable but itsto easy to waste money and not get much out of it. I know many 20 year olds on gear but they are all are under the guidance from a top level trainer and they want to compete at the national level.
 
Great points made. Maybe I'll go get those tests done to see if I am done growing before making my decision. But I doubt Ill even be able to get my hands on it to be honest. Plus I wouldn't be able to get it from some guy at the gym because I have a home gym so im not around a bunch of users.
If I don't find anyone to recommend a way and website to go abot it, I probably won't get a hold of it. But thanks for this comment you used logic instead of just screaming out what everyone else says
 
Great points made. Maybe I'll go get those tests done to see if I am done growing before making my decision. But I doubt Ill even be able to get my hands on it to be honest. Plus I wouldn't be able to get it from some guy at the gym because I have a home gym so im not around a bunch of users.
If I don't find anyone to recommend a way and website to go abot it, I probably won't get a hold of it. But thanks for this comment you used logic instead of just screaming out what everyone else says

Of course man, get your test's done, i dont condone any steroid use to anyone, its all a personal decision that you must research yourself,but im getting tired of people never giving 18-20 year olds proper answers "Your too young" doesn't work for me. Arnold started taking dbol when he was 15 years old, didnt seem to pose a problem to him. But i do not condone it to anyone, its just my thoughts and opinions
 
Dude your 19 get your diet in Check and you will grow. At 19 your test level is like a tthirty yo on 250mg test e a week.seriously, I didn't understand how impt diet was until I got mine correct. 80% diet 15% training and 5% suppliments.
 
Op is either leo or a reporter writing a story on the steroid underground.
 
Between 16-21 I wouldn't have even considered steroids. Eating right and working out seemed like all that was needed. I remember being able to gain muscle and lose fat effortlessly. Like others have said learn diet and training before you consider AAS. Ultimately if you don't have those two things in check all the drugs in the world wont help you.
 
You are way too young for anavar your body is producing the most amount of test that it will ever produce right now. Your levels are at their highest points and they will never be this high again. I would suggest starting a strong lifting program and diet and nutrition plan to help you reach your goals this is the only way to do it with good old-fashioned hard work. I think you should re-think this some and just do it the right way. You don't want to mess your body up.
 
Why do people have to be complete douche bags to people. It's easy to give criticism and not be a complete fuck about it. Ur post was pointless and retarded. Negged

dude, OP is the semendemon after all
 
I started when I was 18 yes old....what's wrong with that??....now I get to stick myself 2 x ew for the rest of my life...pretty cool...can't wait tell I'm like 80yrs old...will have a badass sun tan...kick in red speedos..and a bunch of scar tissue lumps under my sagging skin...pretty awesome...
 
Of course man, get your test's done, i dont condone any steroid use to anyone, its all a personal decision that you must research yourself,but im getting tired of people never giving 18-20 year olds proper answers "Your too young" doesn't work for me. Arnold started taking dbol when he was 15 years old, didnt seem to pose a problem to him. But i do not condone it to anyone, its just my thoughts and opinions

he may have TONS of health issues that we dont know about lol its call HIPAA... For all we know he could have liver cancer and the guy did have heart surgery wiether thats from the gear or not. The problem with 99.9% of young people on gear is they have not exhausted all means of muscle growth or training yet. Many of the top level guys that started when they were teens were monsters before they started. My friend started at 19 and at 21 puts 30 years olds to shame. But he was winning open overal shows natural at 19. I dont condone ANY kid to use gear unless he is prepared to make that sacrifice. Simple as that, if its to get a six pack or just look good fuck that its not worth it. The amount of drugs I am on just to have a kid is stupid. Clomid, HCH and now HMB.. Then I am on hgh just to hold my gains while my test levels are at like 260... But this was a choice that I personally made and do not regret. The problem is most these kids do not think about this. They say one cycle that turns in to two cycles and now thye are blasting for 30 weeks lol. Ive seen it. I plan to turn pro period... I am far from it so if its masters class or what ever one day i will turn pro. Thats the choice I made, I am not running gear to look cool in the gym and bench 405 for reps. I do it because i have an overal higher personal goal for my self. If a 19 year old kid is mature enough to say that hes ready to think about gear... That and if hes educated him self or hired some one who is educated because trust me as much as we tell these kids or adults to go read. Some of us are dumber then a box of rocks and need some one to do it for us.

I have two close friends who are on the verge of a pro card that cant even tell you which thing does which and what pct, ai, and ect does. Why you want mast when you drop your test and ect. THey have zero clue but yet they are all most pros. Some people just will never understand.
 
I know I might get a lot of shit for asking this, but hey.
Im 19 lifting for almost 2 years and interested in trying anavar. I know im kind of young for steroids but I don't want a very powerful drug to get giant. Just maybe an 8 week cycle of anavar, that is if I can even get my hands on it.
Is there a way to actually buy them online out of country and get them shipped to me here in the US? How dangerous is it and is there even any legit website that will deliver to the US? If so, what would happen if they found out there was illegal drus in the package? Ive read about some peoples packages just getting held and them receiving a letter. They said all they did was say I dont want the package and they didnt suffer any legal consequences? is this always the case? Can you just choose not to claim the package? Can you use your real address and name?
Also I read that PCT drugs are also illegal in the US? What about research chemicals? I read that that is a way to get pct legally? how does this work? You can just go to a research chemical website and just straight out buy it with no worries?
I would appreciate any advice on this subject and also on the actual anavar drug. For those who don't simply talk down to me because im interested in steroids and a newbie at this, thank you.

I would neg you, but I think you got plenty of that... Do this: go to your doc, have your test levels checked. One of two things will happen after that... You will either see that you have sufficient test to grow like crazy(given diet and training are on track.),. Or, if it's low, your doc can prescribe it for you... No legal consequences... There ya go!
 
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Here is some guidence dnt juice til 22-23 til body stops growing u already have so much natural test running thru veins u shouldnt fuck it up not to mention doing a cycle that u have no fucking clue about do u reasearch n then u wouldnt haveto ask the basics
 
Here's how you know you shouldn't cycle. When you want to do an oral only. Test should always be a beginners compound. If your to afraid of needless stay away.
 
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