Colorado Recalls Anti-Gun Senator

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[h=1]Colorado Recalls Anti-Gun Senator[/h]By TheGunMag / 19 June 2013 / 152 comments
Colorado sent a strong message to anti-gun politicians today: If you try and take away our rights, we will vote you out of office. John Morse, the anti-gun state senator led a recent initiative to pass multiple gun control laws, has been recalled after a committee obtained the required signatures.
The pro-gun group obtained over 16,000 signatures to the secretary of state for verification. Of the signatures, 7,178 needed to be verified in order to officially begin a recall election. Over 10,000 were found to be verified?with Colorado?s secretary of state signing off yesterday.
The Washington Times has more details:

Meanwhile, Mr. Morse, a Colorado Springs Democrat, released a statement Monday on his Facebook page asking for out-of-state help from those in traditionally liberal cities to help fight the recall effort.
?We can get phone lists to you and things like that and have you help from Boston, Massachusetts, or San Francisco, California,? said Mr. Morse in a video message. ?So thanks for all that you?ve done and thanks for all that you?re going to do as we move forward to take on this tiger.?
Mr. Morse has 15 days to challenge the signatures, but if his protest fails, the governor will be charged with setting a recall election date between 45 and 75 days from the end of the protest period.
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Unfortunately Mr. Morse had already mentioned plans to retire his seat, and if he resigns?a Democrat committee will be in charge of filling his vacancy.
And recall activists haven?t stopped with John Morse; State Sen. Angela Giron is another anti-gun politician who could soon lose her job pending the verification of signatures.
The recall efforts are a resounding response against the anti-gun efforts that politicians continue to push. The results of the impending recall should serve as a warning for politicians looking to get involved with the infringement of our rights. Colorado may have passed anti-gun legislation, but those fighting to protect our 2nd Amendment are showing they won?t go quietly.

 

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[h=1]Mike Bloomberg?s Gun Control Message Backfiring[/h]By Katie Pavlich / 14 June 2013 / 82 comments
Late last year, New York City Mayor and billionaire Michael Bloomberg launched a super PAC to counter the National Rifle Association when it comes to elections. Since new gun control measures failed in the Senate in April, Bloomberg has been out for blood running ads against Democrats who didn?t vote for those measures. But it turns out, Bloomberg?s efforts to unseat anti-gun control Democrats are backfiring.

Of the 35 Senate seats up for grabs in 2014, the 10 most contested battles come in mostly rural, conservative-leaning states such as Montana, West Virginia, Alaska and Arkansas, and nine of them are held by Democrats. Every Republican up for reelection in 2014, including the top GOP leaders, Sens. Mitch McConnell (Ky.) and John Cornyn (Tex.), have demonstrated that their biggest political fear is a primary challenge from the right, making them much more receptive to supporting the NRA?s position.
With parents of the young Newtown victims providing emotional reminders of the shooting for lawmakers Wednesday, one of their most high-profile political allies, New York Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg (I), adopted sharper tactics, urging thousands of his city?s top political donors to withhold donations from four Senate Democrats who voted against the gun bill.
In a letter to more than 1,000 donors, Bloomberg called out the four Democrats ? Sens. Max Baucus (Mont.), Mark Begich (Alaska), Heidi Heitkamp (N.D.) and Mark Pryor (Ark.). ?Instead of rising above politics to pass a law that would save lives,? he wrote, the four senators ?sided with a gun lobby increasingly out of touch with Americans? priorities.?
?The next time these four Senators want you to support them with donations to their campaigns, tell them you cannot,? Bloomberg wrote.
By asking campaign donors to withhold funds, the deep-pocketed mayor went against the will of his congressional Democratic allies, who tried but failed to secure enough GOP support for the gun bill and have warned that public criticism of vulnerable Democrats who voted against the bill will result in Republican gains and less of a chance to enact new gun laws.
Since the bill?s defeat in April, Bloomberg?s anti-gun group, Mayors Against Illegal Guns, has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars targeting senators of both parties for voting against the measure. A group founded by former congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.) ? who was severely wounded in a January 2011 shooting ? also has raised millions of dollars as it airs radio and television ads.
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And the punch to the gut comes from fellow New Yorker Chuck Schumer.

Speaking to Time magazine, Schumer suggests Bloomberg?s targeting of pro-gun Democrats for their votes against gun-control legislation is unproductive.
?Frankly, I don?t think Bloomberg?s ads are effective,? Schumer said. ?The Mayor of New York City putting ads against people in red states is not going to be effective.?
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There?s a reason Obama didn?t run on gun control in 2008 or 2012. It?s a losing issue especially for Democrats in red states, something Bloomberg is learning the hard way.

 

[Zaphod]

The bitch of it is if he retires before the recall election the democrats select a replacement, no election.

 

[IronAddict]

Just 1 cog outta the whole phuqed up machine! Doesn't mean diddly as long as you have guys like mcconell or other career politicians, but they recalled a D.

You probably don't remember this, but here in Ca they recalled Davis, a D and replaced him with arnold, fuckin' arnold!

The rest is well, history....

Hope you don't make the same mistake and shoot yourselves in the foot!

PS, I didn't vote for that guy.

 

[jagbender]

The bitch of it is if he retires before the recall election the democrats select a replacement, no election.

Yep that is the crappy part, But it does send a strong message!

 

[Zaphod]

Yep that is the crappy part, But it does send a strong message!

That and there are a couple more that are getting the recall treatment.

On the plus side there are a few communities here in Michigan that are doing the legislation to block federal anti-gun laws. About frickin' time!

 

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Policy should be based upon facts, not emotion. In 1994, the United States Congress enacted a magazine limit of 10 rounds in magazines as well as defining some rifles as ?assault weapons? based upon stock features which do nothing to change the characteristics of the bullet leaving that rifle.

During the ten years that ban was in place, Colorado suffered as murderers killed innocent people in a ...GUN FREE ZONE at Columbine. Those murderers were not deterred by the 10 round magazine limit; they merely carried many magazines, plus some shotguns and propane bombs. Even the DOJ determined that the magazine and ?assault weapon? laws had no impact upon crime and mass murders.

Those of us who care about our rights and things such as ?SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED? have asked how any of the recently passed bills in Colorado would have stopped Sandy Hook from happening. We asked the same thing about Aurora, Columbine, Virginia Tech, and Ft Hood. All we got was, ?We had to do something.?

Doing ?something? that does nothing except harm law-abiding citizens is not prudent policy making nor good leadership. But what do all of the mass murders listed above have in common? They all occurred in GUN FREE ZONES where the victims were defenseless against their attackers.

Why is New Life Church not mentioned above? Oh that?s right, someone who was armed STOPPED that attack from becoming a mass murder scene. Mere days after Sandy Hook occurred, another potential mass murder was stopped by someone who WAS ARMED and stopped the attack in a theater in San Antonio. What do these two non-mass murder scenes have in common? Someone who was armed fought back against the attacker and stopped the slaughter.

Senator Morse stated that he wanted to have a debate on gun laws. What he really wanted was to enact gun control. No debate occurred. The facts went missing. If people really want to reduce mass murders, then we should reduce the number of VICTIM ZONES called GUN FREE ZONES.

We are recalling Morse because he refused to listen to his constituents, shut down citizen input on legislation, and pushed gun control that cost the state hundreds of lost jobs and millions in lost revenue. He also proposed some very draconian gun control legislation that even his fellow democrats couldn?t stomach. But Morse and his ilk still refuse to listen to reason and facts.

We propose protecting those who need to be protected. Those who may be harmed in GUN FREE ZONES are our friends and family too. When seconds count, police are minutes away.

If you support civil rights and want to remove GUN FREE ZONES from our society, please Like and Share this post. Thank you for your support.

 

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More pressure!

[h=1]Illinois Mayor Leaves Bloomberg?s ?Mayors Against Illegal Guns? and Calls Out the Group?s Mission[/h]June 24 2013
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The mayor of Rockford, Illinois, Larry Morrissey, has left New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg?s anti-gun group, Mayors Against Illegal Guns. Morrissey, who is identified as an independent made the announcement during a Tea Party even in Illinois according to a Daily Caller article.
The mayor cited the expanding anti gun mission of the organization as his reason for leaving. Morrissey made the following comments,

?I?ve dropped out of a group called Mayors Against Illegal Guns (MAIG),? Rockford, Illinois mayor Larry Morrissey said at a Rockford Tea Party town hall Saturday as the crowd burst into applause. ?The reason why I joined the group in the first place is because I took the name for what it said. Against ?Illegal? guns.?
?The challenge that we see day in and day out in the city of Rockford is not dealing primarily with assault weapons or machine guns, automatic weapons. It?s dealing with a typical handgun. All of those typical weapons are usually in the hands of people who are prohibited from having them,? Morrissey said.
?As the original mission swayed, that?s when I decided that it was no longer in line with my beliefs. ?So that?s why I dropped out,? Morrissey explained. ?The focus should not be against law-abiding citizens. We should be focusing our enforcement on folks who have no right to carry a gun, concealed or otherwise.?
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Morrissey also said he supports the state of Illinois getting a legal method for concealed carry and will get a permit himself once there is a process available.
This departure comes on the heels of the organization taking heat for using New York City web servers and employees to maintain the group?s websites. The group has also come under fire for spending millions upon millions of dollars targeting pro gun senators. Even top Democrats such as New York Senator Chuck Schumer criticized the mayor?s ads.
Mayor?s Against Illegal Guns certainly goes beyond the mission of curtailing gun violence. The group is now pushing for outright weapons bans and invasive background checks. With Bloomberg at the helm it can probably be assumed the group would like to use Bloomberg?s own draconian gun policies that he has implemented in NYC across the country.

 

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Don't they get it, the more legal owners they discourage the more defenseless victims they create. It's counter-intuitive, most of the people committing crimes with guns weren't supposed to have them and obtained them illegally.

When will we learn our lesson of the 1920's, prohibition of alcohol built a seedy underworld and created far more problems than it solved. If only these lawmakers could see that we could start dealing with all of the real issues behind this crap, drug addiction and mental illness, et al....

 

[Zaphod]

the more defenseless victims they create.

They get it. That's what they want. They want you to depend on them for protection, which won't arrive until long after you're dead if at all, and so you can't protect yourself from the government.

 

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Fuck you Bloomburg
[h=1]Gun Group: Investigate Bloomberg And MAIG For Use Of Government Servers[/h]By TheGunMag / 25 June 2013 / 18 comments
The Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms (CCRKBA) today is calling on New York Attorney General Eric T. Schneiderman to investigate whether any laws have been violated by New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg for apparently operating a website for Mayors Against Illegal Guns that is reportedly registered to a New York City government server, and apparently administered by city employees.
?On top of everything else that has been revealed in recent days about Bloomberg?s MAIG group padding lists of so-called ?gun victims? with the names of criminals and a terrorist bombing suspect, this new discovery is an outrage that demands a criminal investigation,? said CCRKBA Chairman Alan Gottlieb. ?He?s spending millions of his own dollars on anti-gun politicking around the country, but apparently to offset his expenses, he?s letting taxpayers ? many of whom oppose his restrictive gun policies ? help foot the bill.?
CBS News picked up the story from various other sources and began reporting about it over the weekend. Politico also has reported on the discovery.
?With each day there appears to be something else questionable about the mayor and his anti-gun organization,? Gottlieb observed. ?It?s no wonder that Rockford, Illinois Mayor Larry Morrissey dropped out of the MAIG over the weekend.?
Gottlieb was referring to a story that Politico reported about Mayor Morrissey. The Illinois mayor quit Bloomberg?s group, telling an audience at a Saturday meeting that ? according to Politico ? the group ?strayed from its original mission and became too focused? on pushing for ban on so-called ?assault weapons.?
?While it was deceptive to include the names of criminals killed by police and law-abiding citizens on a list of alleged ?gun victims?,? Gottlieb said, ?that?s just being politically dishonest. But operating an anti-gun political website on the city server, apparently with city employees doing the work; if that?s true, that may be a crime and it should be investigated.?

 

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Angela Giron recall effort moves forward with signatures certified

Posted: 06/24/2013 01:58:12 PM MDT
June 25, 2013 2:15 PM GMTUpdated: 06/25/2013 08:15:01 AM MDT​

By Kurtis Lee
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Angela Giron of Pueblo (Denver Post file)


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The votes cast by state Sen. Angela Giron in support of tougher gun laws now have the Pueblo lawmaker faced with a looming fall election date as organizers Monday amassed enough valid signatures in their recall effort.
Only about 6 percent of the signatures submitted in Giron's recall effort were deemed invalid by the Colorado secretary of state's office ? a striking percentage that her opponents said showed strong support for their cause.
Organizers with Pueblo Freedom and Rights submitted more than 13,400 signatures to the Colorado secretary of state's office and had 12,648 verified. They needed about 11,300 verified for a recall election and outpaced that figure by about 1,300.
Giron becomes the second Democrat in less than a week ? along with Senate President John Morse ? who now must deal with a recall election for passing laws that limit ammunition magazines of more than 15 rounds and require universal background checks on all gun sales and transfers.
"We fully expected to have enough signatures verified," said Victor Head, president of Pueblo Freedom and Rights.
Giron could not be reached for comment Monday. She is expected to contest the signatures verified by the secretary of state's office.
Head, along with about 80 volunteers, said organizers went to the Pueblo County clerk and recorder and picked up an active voter registry of Giron's Senate District 3.
"From there we plugged it into an Excel spread sheet and were able to on-the-spot recognize if a signer lived in the district and was registered," Head said. "We were doing the work of the secretary of state before they even received the signatures. ... We knew what would be valid and what would not."
Giron's Senate District 3 leans heavily Democratic. According to the most recent voter registration totals, it consists of about 34,000 Democrats, 17,300 Republicans and 18,000 unaffiliated voters.
"The signatures verified clearly shows a lot of passion in her district," said political analyst Floyd Ciruli. "And in a recall election, there's going to be low turnout, which raises questions if she can get her supporters out there."
Ciruli notes that Giron is married to Pueblo City Council President Steve Nawrocki.
"This will be a major fight," Ciruli said. "In Pueblo she's tied into the political circles and can get out her message and quite possibly the vote."
Since the recall effort began in Giron's district in April, she's remained steadfast that Democrats passed "common sense" gun laws that are supported by the majority of her constituents.
Not far from Giron's district, Morse is also the subject of a recall election in his Senate District 11.
Organizers looking to throw the Colorado Springs Democrat from office had more than enough signatures validated to spark a recall election in his southern Colorado district. The secretary of state's office last week verified 10,137 signatures when recall organizers needed only about 7,100 signatures for a recall election.
The 6 percent of the signatures submitted in Giron's recall effort that were deemed invalid are a stark contrast to the 37 percent of the signatures submitted for Morse's recall that were rejected by the secretary of state.
Morse's now disputed recall effort is headed for a hearing before the secretary of state's office Thursday. Morse supporters are looking to have all the signatures nullified because they say organizers didn't use certain Constitutional language when gathering signatures on petitions. The contest could land in district court.
If both recall efforts move forward, Morse and Giron would be the first ever Colorado lawmakers to face a recall.




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[h=1]Random Thoughts[/h]Thomas Sowell | Jun 25, 2013

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Random thoughts on the passing scene:
Edmund Burke said, "There is no safety for honest men, but by believing all possible evil of evil men." Evil men do not always snarl. Some smile charmingly. Those are the most dangerous. If you don't think the mainstream media slants the news, keep track of how often they tell you that the Arctic ice pack is shrinking and how seldom they tell you that the Antarctic ice pack is expanding. The latter news would not fit the "global warming" scenario that so many in the media are promoting.
Someone has referred to Vice President Biden as President Obama's "impeachment insurance." Even critics who are totally opposed to Barack Obama's policies do not want anything to cut short his presidency, with Joe Biden as his successor.
People who refuse to accept unpleasant truths have no right to complain about politicians who lie to them. What other kind of candidates would such people elect?
Given the shortage of articulate Republican leaders, it will be a real loss -- to the country, not just to the Republicans -- if Senator Marco Rubio discredits himself, early in his career, by supporting "comprehensive" immigration reform that amounts to just another amnesty, with false promises to secure the border.
Ever since I learned, as a teenager, that the "Saturday Evening Post" magazine was actually published on Wednesday mornings, I have been very skeptical about words. "Gun control" laws do not control guns, "rent control" laws do not control rent and government "stimulus" spending does not stimulate the economy.
It is hard to think of two people with more different personalities than New York's Mayor Michael Bloomberg and President Barack Obama. But they are soul mates when it comes to thinking that they ought to take a whole spectrum of decisions out of citizens' hands, and impose the government's decisions on them.
Maybe the reason for the New York Yankees' low batting averages has something to do with the fact that so many of their batters seem to be swinging for the fences, even when a single would score the winning run.
President Obama's denial of knowledge about the various scandals in his administration that are starting to come to light suggests that his titles should now include Innocent-Bystander-in-Chief.
It has long been my belief that the sight of a good-looking woman lowers a man's IQ by at least 20 points. A man who doesn't happen to have 20 points he can spare can be in big trouble.
When Attorney General Eric Holder argued that a "path to citizenship" for illegal immigrants was a "civil right" and a "human right," that epitomized the contempt for the public's intelligence which has characterized so much of what has been said and done by the Obama administration.
You know you are old when waitresses call you "dear."
Although many people have been surprised and disappointed by Barack Obama, it is hard to think of a president whose policies were more predictable from his history, however radically different those policies are from his rhetoric.
When any two groups have different behavior or performance, that plain fact can be turned upside down and twisted to say that whatever criterion revealed those differences has had a "disparate impact" on one of the groups. In other words, the criterion is blamed for an injustice to those who failed to meet the standard.
Have you heard any gun control advocate even try to produce hard evidence that tighter gun control laws reduce murder rates? Does anyone seriously believe that people who are prepared to defy the laws against murder are going to obey laws against owning guns or large capacity magazines?
I may be among the few people who want Attorney General Eric Holder to keep his job -- at least until the 2014 elections. Holder epitomizes what is wrong with the Obama administration. He is essentially Barack Obama without the charm, so it should be easier for the voters to see through his lies and corruption.
Despite political differences, it is hard not to feel sorry for White House press secretary Jay Carney, for all the absurdities his job requires him to say with a straight face. What is he going to do when this administration is over? Wear a disguise, change his name or be put into a witness protection program?

 

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Jags I knew this would stick in your crawl^^^^

 

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[h=1]Georgia State Senator: You?re ?Loud, Mean?[/h]by Robert W. Hunnicutt?June 25, 2013? 3 comments

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The late New York Mayor Ed Koch famously said ?if you own a gun, you?re not a nice person.? Georgia State Senator Vincent Fort took it a step farther at a Mayors Against Illegal Guns rally in Atlanta, saying gun owners are ?loud, mean and evil people.? Fellow speaker Ernestine Pittman, mayor of East Point, added that she was ?Living the Christian Life unlike ?The Right?.?
Well. Loud, mean, evil and un-Christian. That?s quite a laundry list for a little gathering that was, by all accounts, better attended by the pro-gun side and the press than the antis.
Current NYC Mayor Mike Bloomberg?s MAIG bus tour has had a bumpy ride. At its very first rally, Boston Marathon bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev, who was shot by Boston police, was listed as a victim, along with a variety of other criminals killed by police and armed citizens. Then it came out that billionaire Bloomberg was using city resources, including web hosting and personnel, to support MAIG. Attendance at most rallies on the tour has been sparse, with MAIG supporters often outnumbered by pro-gun forces.
None of this is surprising in the slightest. I have been attending NRA Annual Meetings since 1977, and at none of them have demonstrators massed more than a couple dozen people. The Houston police department had mounted officers and paddy wagons at the ready at this year?s show, and the demonstrators were, as usual, outnumbered by the press.
I don?t doubt this is surprising and disconcerting to Bloomberg and his flunkies, and is yet another illustration of the Pauline Kael Effect.
Pauline Kael was a well-known cinema critic for the New York Times. She was flabbergasted by Richard Nixon?s landslide victory in the 1972 Presidential election. ?How could Nixon have won,? she asked, plaintively, ?no one I know voted for him!?
I suppose no one Mike Bloomberg knows owns guns, or admits to it at any rate.. But people outside New York City do, and they don?t cotton to some billionaire bully trying to take them. The MAIG bus tour is yet another failed attempt to prove the anti-gun movement has real grassroots. It doesn?t, and it never will.



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