Juiced out of my mind

[Goodskie]

High test, tren, and an oral is going to almost definately going to raise your blood pressure regaurdless of what take though.

My bp never gets high at all. I'm a paramedic and check it at work too. Maybe I'm out of the norm

 

[slownsteady]

I think I could run all that but it's more than I like. The longer I train the more I think genetics is such a huge part. Also eating just like a pro is in my opinion soooo important. Training secrets that work for me I think took ten yrs to finally figure out and am still learning I hope. I can't emagine weighing less than 245lbs with that much and lean for me and I'm short. I think training, food, genes, then supps in that order.

 

[XYZ]

Post like this make me realize if this was a waterpark, I would be stuck in the kiddie pool. That is some grown man type cycles.

BS.

With the right diet and training he wouldn't need half of those drugs.

 

[KILLEROFSAINTS]

actually working out on a reg basis would help

 

[Calves of Steel]

Why would you lower your dose for a cut? Why would you bulk before cutting? Wouldn't you rather be more insulin sensitive while you grow? Grow into your skin rather than stretch it out and then deflate? And why not just put all of those ancilliaries away and use masteron? You want estradiol to do it's job and grow you, use masteron to keep your sex drive up and minimize its effects on bloat and gyno. Proviron won't really do the job if you're really taking 1g test and 500 deca.

 

[XYZ]

Why would you lower your dose for a cut? Why would you bulk before cutting? Wouldn't you rather be more insulin sensitive while you grow? Grow into your skin rather than stretch it out and then deflate? And why not just put all of those ancilliaries away and use masteron? You want estradiol to do it's job and grow you, use masteron to keep your sex drive up and minimize its effects on bloat and gyno. Proviron won't really do the job if you're really taking 1g test and 500 deca.

Are you saying he doesn't need an A/I while using 1g of test? Just have him use masteron?

 

[the_riddler]

You don't need a cycle like that to get you to 220 lean... but if you are going to do it then id suggest starting at 500 mg test weeks 1-5, doubling to 1000mg for five weeks, then going to 1500 for the last five. Same amount of test will be used but you get five weeks of true "blasting" instead of ten weeks of steady doses. Building up your dosage as the cycle goes along will also prep your receptors to take in more steroids in the 15 week period than if you were to start high and remain at that dose. About the tren and deca.... you are absolutely right, YOU CAN take these two compounds together. I would just schedule my sex life and have some blue diamonds on hand incase your junk decided it wanted to miraculously stop working. But my experience is either the cycle gives you tren/deca dick from the get go or you don't get it at all. Just feel it out bro and you will be alright.

 

[XYZ]

I'm going stay away from t3 clen alone should be enough.T3 makes you small and eats muscle.Im trying to grow.I do like the ghrp6 post workout idea.

GODDAMN IT RONNIE:

T3 at the right dose doesn't "eat your muscles" as long as you have some AAS and enough protein.

I like you, you make me laugh a lot but come on you're better than this.

 

[Calves of Steel]

Are you saying he doesn't need an A/I while using 1g of test? Just have him use masteron?

1. He should cut before he bulks. That would be the more important part of my post to take away.
2. Yes.

 

[BigKevKris]

T3 at a reasonable dose (50-75mcg) does not eat muscle while running a decent amount of gear.....Clen doesnt even need to be run that high to be effective (60-80mcg). Also as far as appetite goes get some GHRP-6....that will give you an appetite that you have never experienced.

 

[VictorZ06]

Has the OP ever used tren before?? This is such a clusterfuck of a cycle...it's far more complicated than it has to be. Oh, and using GHRP to stimulate an appetite is a good idea.....just keep in mind that it only gives that effect for just about 2 weeks. I would step back, rethink the entire cycle, and make it far less more complicated.



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[Christsean]

Dude, I just gained 10 lbs looking at that cycle!!

 

[Mudge]

Dude, I just gained 10 lbs looking at that cycle!!

LOL... I think I may have too. I can remember when I used to run 750 test all the time, no matter what else was in there. Then once for 6 weeks I ran 1500 test and 1000 tren E, and I believe anadrol was in there somewhere, because its my favorite vitamin.

Increased gains over smaller doses, ehh, sort of negligible but the side effects - YES, definitely a big upgrade there. But I can say I did it, in part after reading those "articles" about how "magic happens" once you get to xxx dosages and I can look back and say its pretty much bullshit.

Work your AZZZZZZ off, and even a modest-fair cycle of gear is a big kick in the pants. Side note, tons of stuff is out there to put bro science to bed and how you shouldn't workout past 45 minutes blah blah, thats fine. Everyone is different! As a non-gifted (other than I'm pretty healthy) white guy, bro science works better for me than anything else. I've trained with high volume, 2 hour 15 minute shoulder workout guys and I always get my best results there. My back workouts were always 25-30 sets and I had ok size and strenght, but after one 2 hour session (see avatar, I couldn't really close my hands) I always saw results right away. Kick your ass, try it at least for a couple weeks. If the rest and nutrition are there, just watch.

Regardless though I wish you luck, I really doubt you will die, but you will earn some experience! And there is nothing really wrong with that. Enjoy the shit out of it! And earn some wisdom in the process.

 

[Christsean]

LOL... I think I may have too. I can remember when I used to run 750 test all the time, no matter what else was in there. Then once for 6 weeks I ran 1500 test and 1000 tren E, and I believe anadrol was in there somewhere, because its my favorite vitamin.

Increased gains over smaller doses, ehh, sort of negligible but the side effects - YES, definitely a big upgrade there. But I can say I did it, in part after reading those "articles" about how "magic happens" once you get to xxx dosages and I can look back and say its pretty much bullshit.

Work your AZZZZZZ off, and even a modest-fair cycle of gear is a big kick in the pants. Side note, tons of stuff is out there to put bro science to bed and how you shouldn't workout past 45 minutes blah blah, thats fine. Everyone is different! As a non-gifted (other than I'm pretty healthy) white guy, bro science works better for me than anything else. I've trained with high volume, 2 hour 15 minute shoulder workout guys and I always get my best results there. My back workouts were always 25-30 sets and I had ok size and strenght, but after one 2 hour session (see avatar, I couldn't really close my hands) I always saw results right away. Kick your ass, try it at least for a couple weeks. If the rest and nutrition are there, just watch.

Regardless though I wish you luck, I really doubt you will die, but you will earn some experience! And there is nothing really wrong with that. Enjoy the shit out of it! And earn some wisdom in the process.

That's real bro!!

 

[jay_steel]

after reading through this again, i think i would advise more so to run 750 test 300 deca and use the rest of the saved cash for hgh.

 

[Mr Persistent]

Here's an alternative:

wk1-6 Test Cyp 200 EW
Wk1-6 Test Prop 150mg ED
Wk1-6 NPP 200mg M-W-Fr
Wk1-6 DBol 50mg ED+

Wk7-10 Test Cyp

Wk 11-16 Test P 50mg ED
wk 11-16 Tren A 75-100mg ED
Wk 11-16 Mast P 50-75mg ED
Wk 11-16 Var 100mg ED

Run and gun MFker!

dont like It personally not enough test ur more advanced then me but just my opinion bro

 

[massfx22]

im a fan of captns cycle. mixing esters makes every week of the cycle worth it, where as with just a long ester i feel nothing for a few weeks

 

[theCaptn']

dont like It personally not enough test ur more advanced then me but just my opinion bro

If you like more test than that, then you're definitely more advanced than I am.... btw I haven't ran that cycle yet, I copied it from OSL's thread cause I really like the set out.

 

[OldSchoolLifter]

dont like It personally not enough test ur more advanced then me but just my opinion bro

Not enough test? The first phase is 1050/wk test prop and 200 test cyp totalling 1250 test a week.

Cruise for 6

The second phase, test prop is lowered to 50/ed because in my opinion running tren higher yields the best results.

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[Mr Persistent]

Not enough test? The first phase is 1050/wk test prop and 200 test cyp totalling 1250 test a week.

Cruise for 6

The second phase, test prop is lowered to 50/ed because in my opinion running tren higher yields the best results.

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My bad I must of read it wrong...