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bmw said:
and yes, raise min. wage, cost of goods increases, so that wage increase becomes net zero, or worse, it could actually mean their hourly rate buys them less. There has not been a real wage increase in the US, relative to inflation, since 1972.
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LW has like 10 kids each from different fathers, and she runs a daycare out of her house...so of course she is going to side with the worker :coffee:
 
Little Wing said:
the employer should be made to absorb the cost not the customer. and they CAN well afford to. it's bullshit, complete and utter bullshit, that profits are at all time highs but these poor crybaby companies pay welfare wages. it's a lie that they cannot afford to pay decent wages without soaking the customer for it. it's nothing but greed.
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Isn't it amazing they make money off those god damn $1 double burgers with cheese?? That must be a loss leader though, right?

Every corporation has an obligation first to their shareholders to make a profit.
 
Standard Donkey said:
LW has like 10 kids each from different fathers, and she runs a daycare out of her house...so of course she is going to side with the worker :coffee:
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You can make decent money running an in home daycare!!!

I know a family that ran 3 of them and they lived pretty well. Had a boat, new cars, etc.
 
does no one understand.... the cost of your cheap shit INCLUDES the welfare you pay to low wage workers. the cost of your cheap food INCLUDES food stamps for the guy putting mayonnaise and his dick on your bread.... :coffee:
 
brb, looking for a ton of 2 cent pieces of shit I can buy from Chiner, have imported to US, and mark up to sell on amazon and make a million dollars a year profit...
 
i think you guys just don't want to give up your penis flavored bread. :thinking:
 
Little Wing said:
does no one understand.... the cost of your cheap shit INCLUDES the welfare you pay to low wage workers. the cost of your cheap food INCLUDES food stamps for the guy putting mayonnaise and his dick on your bread.... :coffee:
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right.. but it shouldn't.. there shouldn't even be welfare :coffee: inb4 LW's signature red herring
 
bmw said:
brb, looking for a ton of 2 cent pieces of shit I can buy from Chiner, have imported to US, and mark up to sell on amazon and make a million dollars a year profit...
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if you really want to make a profit on ebay you won't believe what i found someone there doing. motherrrrrfucker. clever tho. i love this certain very expensive chessboard. a guy there marks them up over 200 percent and has sold four. i was tempted to send him a message telling him i know what he's doing.
 
Little Wing said:
does no one understand.... the cost of your cheap shit INCLUDES the welfare you pay to low wage workers. the cost of your cheap food INCLUDES food stamps for the guy putting mayonnaise and his dick on your bread.... :coffee:
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sales taxes pay for SNAP?
 
Little Wing said:
if you really want to make a profit on ebay you won't believe what i found someone there doing. motherrrrrfucker. clever tho. i love this certain very expensive chessboard. a guy there marks them up over 200 percent and has sold four. i was tempted to send him a message telling him i know what he's doing.
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so do the same thing!!!

PM me with details and link please! :)

serios!
 
pm sent. good luck.
 
bmw said:
sales taxes pay for SNAP?
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the point is those things are not as cheap as low prices on the surface appear. we pay twice. the cheap sandwich and the worker's welfare.
 
well, those profits in the McD's burgers aren't going to welfare, they are going to shareholders. Pretty sure state sales taxes don't pay for a federally funded program either. But I think I get your point that they could make less profits and pay a better wage.

My point is that the majority of the FF workers I see are kids working for some extra cash at a part time job. That's what I did when I was in HS and college. I worked part time for some cash. The adults around those places are usually the managers with a few exceptions. McD's also have the post-retirement seniors who are usually going around cleaning up the dining area in the morning through lunch. Those seniors already have SSI and hopefully some other retirement income.
 
bmw said:
Isn't it amazing they make money off those god damn $1 double burgers with cheese?? That must be a loss leader though, right?

Every corporation has an obligation first to their shareholders to make a profit.
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Yep.
As well the fast food corporations need to say thank you to the taxpayers who are funding 7 billion dollars worth of welfare benefits for their low paid and low to no benefit employees.

As to Wal-mart, a corporation that has the largest amount of employees on welfare in the U.S, they need to say thank you to the taxpayers who are funding welfare benefits for their low paid and low to no benefit employees so that Wal-mart can afford to buy-back 16 billion dollars worth of stock.
So that the Walton family, other billionaires and the investor class can cash in on increased stock prices due to those buy-backs which are possible due to low paid and low to no benefit employee compensations.
 
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bmw said:
well, those profits in the McD's burgers aren't going to welfare, they are going to shareholders. Pretty sure state sales taxes don't pay for a federally funded program either. But I think I get your point that they could make less profits and pay a better wage.

My point is that the majority of the FF workers I see are kids working for some extra cash at a part time job. That's what I did when I was in HS and college. I worked part time for some cash. The adults around those places are usually the managers with a few exceptions. McD's also have the post-retirement seniors who are usually going around cleaning up the dining area in the morning through lunch. Those seniors already have SSI and hopefully some other retirement income.
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Math is math.
There are employees working for fast food corporations that qualify for 7 billion dollars worth of taxpayer funded welfare benefits due to these employees not receiving living wages and benefits at a level that would allow them to not have to go on welfare.
These are not teenagers and seniors on social security that are receiving these welfare benefits.
They are adults that are in the working poor economic class.

You,I and every other American that pays taxes is funding these employee welfare benefits.
In federal, state and in local property taxes.
It shows up as to these employees are on section 8 housing , food stamps, WIC, medicaid and other government socialist taxpayer funded type programs.
This is taxpayer supplied corporate welfare so that corporations can privatize the profit and socialize the risk.
 
G.Reaper said:
You couldn't be father from the truth on your assumptions. I started working with a friend who owned a landscaping business in So Cal. I was 14 and he paid me under the table. I was able to buy my new dirt bike and all other toys. Yes through hard work. It's a different industry up here where I moved. It's all mining. I am a sales manager and she is the safety manager at her place out at the mines. The mines just pay really well. But I get to stay in town and can do more with the kids. Prior to this I was at the mine and she was in town. And to be honest my MBA degree is petty useless at this point. At least In this area. You can get a high school flunky working under ground making 100k a year or driving a haul truck on the surface for 70k+. I have been management since 18 so I would say I'm not doing anything wrong. I only work barely 40 hours a week. She works because she likes to. On top of that I Like making 200k a year so we can have all the fun stuff we have now. You obviously missed the part where I said "obviously this has all changed". You want to come off an bash me with little facts when you can ask and we can have an adult conversation. The point is hard work pays off degree or not.
The fast food was for the principal of the matter. Wages go up so do the cost of goods.
So what the "fuck am I doing wrong" obviously trying to carry on a big boy conversation with a keyboard warrior.
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Says the keyboard warrior. We all make big bucks on the internet.
 
must just be me but i think the person a company needs the most is the one actually doing the work. whatever the job is, even if it shoveling shit, they need to fairly compensate the person with sweat on their brow. if you have a derisive attitude about the person standing on their feet all day to make your sandwich i think you deserve dick bread. :shrug:
 
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Little Wing said:
must just be me but i think the person a company needs the most is the one actually doing the work. whatever the job is, even if it shoveling shit, they need to fairly compensate the person with sweat on their brow. if you have a derisive attitude about the person standing on their feet all day to make your sandwich i think you deserve dick bread. :shrug:
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ok LW, how much should they be paid then? you guys are producing the "problems" (even though there wouldn't be one if no welfare or gubmint benefits existed), what is your solution?
 
exerciseordie said:
When I worked fast food the minimum wage was 6.50/hr. They hired a lady on at 8 because she had experience and two kids. She refused to take handouts from the government and I asked her how she kept everything up and running in her household at this pay. Her answer, "I don't buy shit I don't need. I walk to work, shop at goodwill and garage sales, I don't go out to eat, and I don't have a cell phone or pager. Simply put I only buy what I need and I keep a roof over my head and food on the table." Now I personally believe that if you are taking handouts then you don't need 100 dollar shoes and a new iphone. Just from personal experience and having friends who lived off of close to minimum wage. Fuck my roommate supports himself off of 9 bucks an hour. How? He doesn't buy dumb shit.
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you cant live off of 8 or 9 dollars an hour in america...period
 
Well look up the wage for an underground miner or a haul truck driver for lets say Barrick or Newmont. This is the industry I'm in. The wages are a little different here. Then my wife is a safety manager, look up the wages for that. I'm a sales manager, look up those wages. Not hard to see.
 
ive got a solution.

the next time i go to mcdonalds or walmart i will pay, thank them and leave.

the next time you go there you can pay, and then TIP those who helped you, an amount you think will bridge the gap for them for an hour of work

sounds fair
 
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