Half of fast food workers need public aid

[Swiper]

Yep.
As well the fast food corporations need to say thank you to the taxpayers who are funding 7 billion dollars worth of welfare benefits for their low paid and low to no benefit employees.

As to Wal-mart, a corporation that has the largest amount of employees on welfare in the U.S, they need to say thank you to the taxpayers who are funding welfare benefits for their low paid and low to no benefit employees so that Wal-mart can afford to buy-back 16 billion dollars worth of stock.
So that the Walton family, other billionaires and the investor class can cash in on increased stock prices due to those buy-backs which are possible due to low paid and low to no benefit employee compensations.

no, you have it backwards. the people whom accept the job fully knowing the hourly pay rate need to thank the tax payer. you're welcome.....

 

[Little Wing]

ive got a solution.

the next time i go to mcdonalds or walmart i will pay, thank them and leave.

the next time you go there you can pay, and then TIP those who helped you, an amount you think will bridge the gap for them for an hour of work

sounds fair

you have that wrong though. you will pay them, thank them, leave and give them more money when you pay taxes cuz their employer needs YOU to support their workers.

 

[Little Wing]

anyone CAN live on 8 or 9 bucks an hour if they never leave their parents.... kind of don't like the idea of American kids not being able to afford independence though.

 

[Standard Donkey]

anyone CAN live on 8 or 9 bucks an hour if they never leave their parents.... kind of don't like the idea of American kids not being able to afford independence though.

my old room mate was supporting himself on 8.50 an hour. he was able to cover all of his expenses and still have a little left over at the end of the month. you all have no clue what you are talking about.. which quite frankly, does not surprise me

 

[Zaphod]

actually they do lmao..

Why? Investing is a gamble, it's not a sure thing. That's what people have lost sight of. That is the ultimate in entitlement.

 

[Zaphod]

You are exactly right my friend. Why would anyone invest money in a company thats main objective is to not make money? Where's the logic in that?

The objective is to make money, no argument there. But there is no right to automatic profit.

 

[Zaphod]

you want to get personal with me you fat mother fucker?

Touched a sore spot, has he?

 

[KILLEROFSAINTS]

my old room mate was supporting himself on 8.50 an hour. he was able to cover all of his expenses and still have a little left over at the end of the month. you all have no clue what you are talking about.. which quite frankly, does not surprise me

quote
"roomate" as in not paying full rent anywhere...

 

[KILLEROFSAINTS]

again child
you cannot liVe on your own...TOTALLY INDEPENDANT...and def not with a family depending on you ...for 8 or 9 dollars an hour


rent or mortgage
lights
gas for transportation
possible daycare or sitter
internet
phone
car ins
life ins
health coverage

JUST TODAYS ESSENTIALS


MOTHER FUCKING FOOD!


OUT OF 320 WEEKLY BEFORE TAXES

 

[Big Puppy]

i think the big difference of opinion is what we are defining as minimum wage and jobs to support a family.
i believe that there are jobs for people to GET INTO the job market - people who don't have the education, skills, or experience to get a job that can support a family.
I also believe that it is the responsibility of the person to get the education, skills, and experience in able to get a job that pays well enough to support them and a family.
I don't think a husband and father of kids should be working at such places. I haven't made minimum wage since i was 16. I worked plenty of shitty jobs to earn skills, or to get experience to prove that i could work. Then i got an education. I do not believe that education from college is the end-all be-all. But if not, you have to learn a skill. Shame on those who don't. If you choose not to get a skill or education, then shame on you.
That is why i don't think companies need to pay 15 an hour to the fry guy. It should be a stupid kid instead of a husband and father trying to support a family.

 

[Standard Donkey]

Why? Investing is a gamble, it's not a sure thing. That's what people have lost sight of. That is the ultimate in entitlement.

ok I guess you just don't get it.. ill try to explain using really small words ok? corporations are obligated to make a profit for their shareholders, because their shareholders own the company.. therefore they are required to do whatever they legally can in order to cut costs and increase revenues to raise profits for their shareholders.

 

[Standard Donkey]

The objective is to make money, no argument there. But there is no right to automatic profit.

when did anyone say anything about "automatic profit"?

 

[Standard Donkey]

again child
you cannot liVe on your own...TOTALLY INDEPENDANT...and def not with a family depending on you ...for 8 or 9 dollars an hour

this...coming from you? lol wow...

 

[KILLEROFSAINTS]

i am the only one in the house who works and have been for 7 months....its not about me though child...its about anyone trying to provide for a small family....impossible on those wages...no matter whos fault it is

 

[Standard Donkey]

i am the only one in the house who works and have been for 7 months....its not about me though child...its about anyone trying to provide for a small family....impossible on those wages...no matter whos fault it is

anyways... if anyone signs up for a job working in the fast food industry, or as a peon for walmart, and expects to live the American dream of 3 kids and two cars with a white picket fence..they deserve whatever is coming to them, and should absolutely not be getting any government assistance. they want to have their cake and eat it too...not put any effort into getting an education or making contacts, but still being paid and living the american dream as if they had

 

[KILLEROFSAINTS]

i didnt comment on any of that....every one has to live within there means....but then our own government doesnt...not everyone is handed the same opportunities though


but thats life...or democracy or some shit

 

[HFO3]

It's a sign of the times...
When I was at that age when I had friends that worked fast food, I worked as a helper at an auto repair shop. Nobody and I mean not one single individual I knew would have even accepted welfare but rather worked, made connections and had a hunger inside to succeed not suck at life, claim failure for yourself and receive welfare. It is a totally different thought process than people have today, period.

 

[Big Smoothy]

Fast food was never meant to be a career. It is not a job to support a family on. I'm not sure where the misconception for these people comes from. There is no reason they can't go out and get a better paying job that requires no education. If they are not happy about the wages then they are in the wrong field of work!

I see your point G.Reaper,

However......

And this is a relevant however: since the GFC (Great Financial Crisis) the average age of the fast food worker has risen. More and more people that are not teens living at home have Fast Food (and other dead-end jobs).

148,000 people per month go into the US labor market per month.

IMO, if you work a job - any job - that is a legal job and you are legally entitled to work and do work - you should be able to make a living wage.

This mean you can afford the most basic shelter and food.

Not possible with current wages in many sectors in the USA.

There seems to be a new slave class emerging.

 

[HFO3]

I see your point G.Reaper,

However......

And this is a relevant however: since the GFC (Great Financial Crisis) the average age of the fast food worker has risen. More and more people that are not teens living at home have Fast Food (and other dead-end jobs).

148,000 people per month go into the US labor market per month.

IMO, if you work a job - any job - that is a legal job and you are legally entitled to work and do work - you should be able to make a living wage.

This mean you can afford the most basic shelter and food.

Not possible with current wages in many sectors in the USA.

There seems to be a new slave class emerging.

that has never been true as long as I have been alive... I'm curious, why do you think it should be that way now?

 

[bdad]

again child
you cannot liVe on your own...TOTALLY INDEPENDANT...and def not with a family depending on you ...for 8 or 9 dollars an hour


rent or mortgage
lights
gas for transportation
possible daycare or sitter
internet
phone
car ins
life ins
health coverage

JUST TODAYS ESSENTIALS


MOTHER FUCKING FOOD!


OUT OF 320 WEEKLY BEFORE TAXES

Internet, and life insurance are luxurys

 

[KILLEROFSAINTS]

i agree...most people wouldnt see it that way
even the poorest americans are pretty spoiled....even now

 

[bmw]

Math is math.
There are employees working for fast food corporations that qualify for 7 billion dollars worth of taxpayer funded welfare benefits due to these employees not receiving living wages and benefits at a level that would allow them to not have to go on welfare.
These are not teenagers and seniors on social security that are receiving these welfare benefits.
They are adults that are in the working poor economic class.

You,I and every other American that pays taxes is funding these employee welfare benefits.
In federal, state and in local property taxes.
It shows up as to these employees are on section 8 housing , food stamps, WIC, medicaid and other government socialist taxpayer funded type programs.
This is taxpayer supplied corporate welfare so that corporations can privatize the profit and socialize the risk.

You should start buying wal-mart and McD's stock with a dividend reinvestment plan. Show them motherfuckers bro!!!!!

 

[bmw]

must just be me but i think the person a company needs the most is the one actually doing the work. whatever the job is, even if it shoveling shit, they need to fairly compensate the person with sweat on their brow. if you have a derisive attitude about the person standing on their feet all day to make your sandwich i think you deserve dick bread.

and yet those burger flippers or whatever are so easily replaced with a line around the block waiting for those jobs. Most of them teenagers too! At least where I live.

 

[bmw]

i like how everyone on the site is nearly a millionaire lately

you mean you're not???

you must not have a 12 inch dick, and drive a lambo and mercedes S class either?

GTFO of here!

 

[bmw]

The objective is to make money, no argument there. But there is no right to automatic profit.

nobody but you said anything about a right to make profits off an investment though??

I said a corporation has an obligation to it's shareholders to make money (or try to).

 

[bmw]

That is why i don't think companies need to pay 15 an hour to the fry guy. It should be a stupid kid instead of a husband and father trying to support a family.

How dare you! You entitlement minded sonofabitch you!

 

[bmw]

It's a sign of the times...
When I was at that age when I had friends that worked fast food, I worked as a helper at an auto repair shop. Nobody and I mean not one single individual I knew would have even accepted welfare but rather worked, made connections and had a hunger inside to succeed not suck at life, claim failure for yourself and receive welfare. It is a totally different thought process than people have today, period.

we must be close to the same age!

 

[bmw]

that has never been true as long as I have been alive... I'm curious, why do you think it should be that way now?

lol! No shit. When I started working, minimum wage was less than $3.00 an hour. Live on that motherfuckers!

 

[Zaphod]

ok I guess you just don't get it.. ill try to explain using really small words ok? corporations are obligated to make a profit for their shareholders, because their shareholders own the company.. therefore they are required to do whatever they legally can in order to cut costs and increase revenues to raise profits for their shareholders.

I'll use really simple words to explain an even simpler concept: No workers, no profits. Shareholders aren't owed a damned thing. They aren't even owed breaking even. That's a recent thing, with investors suing a company or executives because they aren't getting enough return or they lost their investment.

 

[Little Wing]

anyways... if anyone signs up for a job working in the fast food industry, or as a peon for walmart, and expects to live the American dream of 3 kids and two cars with a white picket fence..they deserve whatever is coming to them, and should absolutely not be getting any government assistance. they want to have their cake and eat it too...not put any effort into getting an education or making contacts, but still being paid and living the american dream as if they had

have you not gotten out of your house enough to know that a lot of skilled laborers here were living that dream before their jobs got sent to some slave country and now they are stuck with whatever scrap job they can get their hands on?

that entire manufacturing towns all across this country have basically shut down because of this? climbing towards 3 million manufacturing jobs lost to China?

that for breadwinner adults school is a luxury when the mortgage is due and the fridge is getting bare?

that not everyone lives with their parents and no one can plan for the company they spent 20 years climbing to the top in to sell out?


if this country is retarded enough to give our fucking jobs away, if our government is retarded enough to allow it, they need to make the jobs we have left pay a livable wage.