Orals could cause your symptoms. Not sure I would use the T4 unless you have a legit medical need. Its basically useless.
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Yea I was supposed to get T3 but I ended up with T4, some sponsors just don't know how to send you the correct stuff. Only oral is the T4, the winny is injectable.
Thanks, I'll probably drop the T4 and go from there.
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Honestly, there's no reason to use the T4.
Is T4 really that useless, I thought it converts to T3 at a 4:1 ratio at least?
Is T3 useless then as well?
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Is T3 useless then as well?
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Your body will likely only convert what is needed from T4 into T3. Excess T4 is probably not going to boost T3 levels notably.
T3 is highly effective for increasing metabolism. Night and day difference compared to T4.
Sounds like I need to contact the sponsor and have them send me the T3 I should have gotten.
Thanks as always brother.
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MI1972
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Heavy - for the tren, I am assuming tren A... would you suggest daily at 50mg or EOD at 100mg? Would you suggest any type of loading if the test is C?
IAMLEGEND1
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You ever experience joint pain from growth at just 2iu/day? On BRs green tops and my elbow and wrist are killing me.
I like Tren Ace either way. ED or EOD brother.
Are you just starting GH? If so it can happen at first.
IAMLEGEND1
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Ya I am. Been on peptides for a long time, finally trying the real thing. I have to warm up quite a bit to work the pain out of my elbows and wrists.
mynameiscarl
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Hey John quick question what do u think of my first cycle.
1-8 test c 250mg x 1 (see how my body react with AAS)
IF bloat or gyno appear I've letro , tamoxi & arimdex on hand
8-12 250mg x 2 pin
8-12 might use adex .5mg end if bloating
12- 16 cruise on 125mg a week
16 - 24 250mg x 2 pin
16 - 20 20mg dbol kick start
Or should I just do PCT on 14 week n let my body recover?
Wanna keep sides to zero. Goals is to gain a lot of strength and increase my big 3 movement.
Size is 2nd priority. So not want to gain more than 15lbs
Stats: Training for 2 years. Age 24, 5'4, 137lb , Bench 184, Squat 240, Dead 305. What do u think man? I'm counting macros and have a good strength program on hand so diet n training isn't a problem.
1-8 test c 250mg x 1 (see how my body react with AAS)
IF bloat or gyno appear I've letro , tamoxi & arimdex on hand
8-12 250mg x 2 pin
8-12 might use adex .5mg end if bloating
12- 16 cruise on 125mg a week
16 - 24 250mg x 2 pin
16 - 20 20mg dbol kick start
Or should I just do PCT on 14 week n let my body recover?
Wanna keep sides to zero. Goals is to gain a lot of strength and increase my big 3 movement.
Size is 2nd priority. So not want to gain more than 15lbs
Stats: Training for 2 years. Age 24, 5'4, 137lb , Bench 184, Squat 240, Dead 305. What do u think man? I'm counting macros and have a good strength program on hand so diet n training isn't a problem.
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Honestly I think the Test dose is too low. Maybe bump up after a few weeks?
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What about 1-8 300-350mg?
8-12 500 mg
Should I do PCT at week 14 or just cruise with 125mg for 6 weeks n blast 500mg with dbol kick start for another 8-10 weeks
PCT is a wise choice. You are young and your hormones are likely very high naturally. I would hate to see you diminish your T levels permanently from steroid abuse brother.
I would start the cycle with 500 mg T weekly myself.
exerciseordie
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What would you recommend if his natural levels are low? Really just curious lol
If he needs legitimate TRT then I see no problem with longer use.
exerciseordie
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Just curious. I know with drugs know days that fertility is usually not an issue even with long use. But crushing t levels can be a definite issue
mynameiscarl
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Okay according to your PCT protocol,Day 1-16 : 2500iu HCG every other day. (You may use less HCG if your testes are normal in size AND you have been using HCG on cycle, i.e. 1,000iu HCG etd.)
100/100/100/50 Clomid (50mg taken twice per day weeks 1-3 after aas ester clears)
20mg/20mg/20mg/10mg Aromasin (20mg daily for 3 weeks, 10mg daily in week 4)
I've seen Dr scally Powepct and he seem to use nolva instead of aromasin. Why's that and what's the difference between the result yield between urs n his? Also would skipping HCG for my first PCT advisable In terms of keeping my gains after PCT. Will I lose more if I don't use HCG but just aromasin n clomid like your protocol.
You would have to ask Scally why he uses Clomid and Nolva together as they do almost the same thing.
HCG will likely speed recovery but its not absolutely needed brother.
Soujerz
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Heavy,
I am going to use PrivateMDLabs for the female hormone panel, Right now i am on 200mg of Test cyp 1x week on fridays how many days after my friday injection should i wait to get the blood drawn?
I am going to use PrivateMDLabs for the female hormone panel, Right now i am on 200mg of Test cyp 1x week on fridays how many days after my friday injection should i wait to get the blood drawn?
I like to go exactly 7 days after my injection.
Soujerz
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Heavy,
I am following what you like to do and getting my bloods taken Friday morning, fasting for 12 hours thursday night into friday morning and my last injection of test was last friday 6/13/14.
Question is, I normally do 500 iu of HCG on Monday and Thursday, I already took my monday dose of 500 iu, should i still do my Thursday dose, tomorrow 6/19/14, or should i skip it cause i am getting my bloods friday morning?
I am following what you like to do and getting my bloods taken Friday morning, fasting for 12 hours thursday night into friday morning and my last injection of test was last friday 6/13/14.
Question is, I normally do 500 iu of HCG on Monday and Thursday, I already took my monday dose of 500 iu, should i still do my Thursday dose, tomorrow 6/19/14, or should i skip it cause i am getting my bloods friday morning?
If you want to know if your Test is good I would skip the HCG as it will skew the results a tad.
TheHardOne
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Dementia from long term benadryl use?
First symptoms of kidneys and liver givin' out?
First symptoms of kidneys and liver givin' out?
John, would adding 400 mgs/wk of EQ make a difference to this 10 wk cycle?
325 wk each of tren and mast.
About 700 wk of test
75 mgs tbol ed for the last month of cycle
215 Currently w/13% ish bf would like to bump up at 220-223 with a 9-10% bf
Will EQ make a difference to this cycle?
325 wk each of tren and mast.
About 700 wk of test
75 mgs tbol ed for the last month of cycle
215 Currently w/13% ish bf would like to bump up at 220-223 with a 9-10% bf
Will EQ make a difference to this cycle?
Im gonna give it a go for shits and giggles!
Soujerz
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I read this entire thread and it appears your not a huge fan of T3, seems you only like it for the last 10 weeks of a cut. My question is for a guy who's on trt(200mg test a week) who has a healthy thyroid. I'm debating starting 50mcg of T3 and just staying on year round. My goal is 225-230 at 10%, and I like to eat! My question is do you think it's to catabolic, unreasonable to stay on indefinetly, and lastly any health complications you could see arising. To be honest I don't want to start any hgh, insulin, or peptides. Just trt test with a few test/deca/dbol cycles and a few test/tren cycles. I mention this because an obvious alternative to Staying lean could be gh
