Adding Tren Ace with low dose Test

[ManInBlack]

Current stats:

29
215 pounds
5'11"
12-14% body fat (12 if i had to say for sure, abs still look good, veins still popping)

Been blasting and cruising for over 2 years now

When I cruise I drop down to 100mg week of Asia Pharma Test Cyp and HCG

Right now I am on 250mg a week of Test Cyp plus Adex and HCG


What I want to do is add in Tren Ace while keeping my Test dose the same. I am looking jacked and still strong as an ox on 250 mg and don't want to up it. I would like to add in 320 mg tren ace per week. The bottles I will get are 80 mg a ML so I would inject 80 mg EOD.

I guess my question is this: Can I keep everything exactly the same as I have it now with my test dose and AI dose and add in the Tren Ace at 320mg per week and then add cabergoline? Run that for say 8-10 weeks and then just DROP the tren ace and caber and resume my Test 250 low dose cycle?

Thanks guys

 

[VictorZ06]

I just want to thank YOU for reading the rules and posting your stats. THANKS!! Now lets help this guy fellas.




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[jtip1810]

Should be fine the way you outlined it 250 test as a base. You may want to start tren out at 50mg eod just to see how you tolerate the sides. Make sure to use Caber at night before bed makes some tired. Also run your test 2wks or so longer than tren if your staying on your good there. I started my tren cycle like this and got greedy upping the dose I would advise you don't do this it was a bad idea. Sides can be really bad with tren so if this is your first run with it be careful more isn't better. Good luck hope this helps.

 

[ManInBlack]

Thanks. So what about the dose of caber? Check out what I have so far and let me know some thoughts.....

Test Cyp 250mg per week (125mg injected twice weekly)
Arimidex 0.5mg E3D
HCG 250 iu's twice weekly
Tren Ace 50mg EOD and maybe bumping up to 80mg EOD
Caber ???

I look better than most juicers I know around here on low dose test. 250mg test per week is the highest I have ran it in about 10 months and I have been able to maintain everything. I was running it at only 100mg per week for quite a while.

Thanks again guys.

One more thing. I love Asia Pharma test cyp. 250 mg per week has me around 1900-2000. Anyone have experience with their Tren Ace. Also, if you know of a cheaper place with the same quality I would love to hear from you

 

[heckler7]

I would switch to aromisin 12.5mg daily while on tren. adex is pretty mild and is fine for TRT but adding tren will require something stronger . thats my .02

 

[ManInBlack]

I would switch to aromisin 12.5mg daily while on tren. adex is pretty mild and is fine for TRT but adding tren will require something stronger . thats my .02

Thanks man.

Question: I could be wrong which is why I'm asking but wouldn't the adex be fine because it blocks the estrogen that the test creates and caber would block prolactin which the tren creates? So to me it doesn't make sense that I would need to switch to aromasin...?

 

[jtip1810]

Thanks man.

Question: I could be wrong which is why I'm asking but wouldn't the adex be fine because it blocks the estrogen that the test creates and caber would block prolactin which the tren creates? So to me it doesn't make sense that I would need to switch to aromasin...?

You are correct, but aromasin is a suicidal A.I. meaning it will eliminate the estrogen altogether were Adex can have an estrogen rebound which is not good. I find aromasin much easier to dial in even at a high dose I have never crashed my estrogen like on adex. As for caber I would start it at 1/2mg or half a pill if you get pharma grade which I also suggest 2 times per week that should be enough to keep prolactin in check.

As for AP gear it is great quality stuff but its pricey. For the money you could look around and find the same quality for much cheaper which equals more gearz in my opinion. There are plenty of sponsors with quality gear I myself am running Paxton at the moment and I have no complaints. I would suggest looking around check reviews you can find plenty of good sponsors here that can take care of you.

 

[DRACOMACHINE]

I think having caber on hand while using Tren is good, but at the dosage you are planning on using, not necessary. I mean both the dose of Tren and Test. However, everyone dose respond differently, and better safe than sorry.

 

[heckler7]

You are correct, but aromasin is a suicidal A.I. meaning it will eliminate the estrogen altogether were Adex can have an estrogen rebound which is not good. I find aromasin much easier to dial in even at a high dose I have never crashed my estrogen like on adex. As for caber I would start it at 1/2mg or half a pill if you get pharma grade which I also suggest 2 times per week that should be enough to keep prolactin in check.

As for AP gear it is great quality stuff but its pricey. For the money you could look around and find the same quality for much cheaper which equals more gearz in my opinion. There are plenty of sponsors with quality gear I myself am running Paxton at the moment and I have no complaints. I would suggest looking around check reviews you can find plenty of good sponsors here that can take care of you.

I think having caber on hand while using Tren is good, but at the dosage you are planning on using, not necessary. I mean both the dose of Tren and Test. However, everyone dose respond differently, and better safe than sorry.

both good posts here. I would have caber on hand but really all you need to do is keep E2 in check, good luck bro

 

[Dr.Tox]

We have similar stats but I am 35. I have used a multitude of different compounds over the years but I will sum up my current and favorite cycle.
300mg test e per week
100 mg Tren A EOD
150 mg Masteron Prop EOD
2.5 mg Letrozole ED to combat a small soft dime size gyno preexisting

I am in my second week and the above cycle just sculps your body not to mention great pumps and strength. Hopefully vascularity will be coming as well this week. I get night sweats on the tren and crazy dreams. Also it cuts my cardio short so I just keep my heart rate up while training.
Good luck brother, start slow then ramp up

 

[ManInBlack]

Thanks for the replies fellas. I am currently looking into Paxton as one of you suggested. I do love WP but the prices do break the frickin bank.

As far as Aromasin goes.... I DEFINITELY have issues keeping my E2 in a sweet spot with Adex. Seems its always bouncing around. If I switch to Aromasin what is the BEST WAY TO DO IT? For example I am running 0.5mg E3D of adex right now. Say I take my dose today, in 3 days should I just pick up with the Aromasin?

Also, how much Aromasin would you guys suggest for 250mg of Test per week by itself AS WELL as with the proposed cycle with the tren ace added in?

Thanks so much guys, really trying to take my body to the next level slowly but surely.

 

[ManInBlack]

Another thing.. Would you guys suggest starting the Tren at 50mg EOD (200mg per week) or go ahead and do 300 mg per week to get it a little higher than my test dose of 250?

 

[VictorZ06]

I have run tren upwards of 1g EW....and I would still rather use adex. WE NEED SOME ESTRO DURING OUR CYCLES. I will never run a suicide AI while on cycle. If you are having issues, just bump up the dose. I start usind adex a week prior to my cycle at 1mg ED. NEVER had any problems. Come PCT time, I switch to aromasin as we want to get rid of as much estro as we can at this point....thus, a suicide AI is needed. This system of mine has treated me well for a dozen years and my blood work says I'm doing it right. So I will not fix what isn't broke. A suicide AI on cycle can make you sick and cause your body not to function right because of the lack of so much esto.



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[ManInBlack]

Right on thanks for your input..

What about when dropping down to a cruise dose? Would you suggest switching to Aromasin then?

 

[Standard Donkey]

aromasin is a 'suicide' AI, yes. However, your body is constantly making new aromatase...so this point is moot. Aromasin has the shortest half life of all AI's, it should be dosed at least every day, if not 2x a day. It can reduce estrogen around 50-55% (studies saying ~80% were performed on post-menopausal women, same with the 99% for letro). It is optimally absorbed with food. As for caber, I never noticed much from it save for gaining the ability to have multiple orgasms. I ran it with alongside tren for this first few blasts, then never again. I did not find it necessary...just another (large) expense. You may find that your gains will be better simply by adding more test..but the answer to the question you asked in your OP is "yes", you can do that.