Wonder why we are so divided?

[solidassears]

This is a very interesting article or blog; there's a part that talks about how anyone who has been in a debate club knows that if you can't make your opponents points for them, you don't really understand their point of view or reasons why they think or feel as they do.

It seems to me that this is exactly what we have now in the US and probably worldwide; everyone living in their own echo chamber and no one wanting or willing to try and even understand the other sides point of view.

https://medium.com/@SeanBlanda/the-other-side-is-not-dumb-2670c1294063#.rap96xjq5

Maybe the other side is not so dumb as you think..

 

[hoyle21]

This is a very interesting article or blog; there's a part that talks about how anyone who has been in a debate club knows that if you can't make your opponents points for them, you don't really understand their point of view or reasons why they think or feel as they do.

It seems to me that this is exactly what we have now in the US and probably worldwide; everyone living in their own echo chamber and no one wanting or willing to try and even understand the other sides point of view.

https://medium.com/@SeanBlanda/the-other-side-is-not-dumb-2670c1294063#.rap96xjq5

Maybe the other side is not so dumb as you think..

I'll read the article later but I 100% agree with your post. One of the biggest issues I have with my liberal friends is their elitist attitude and refusal to try to at least understand the point of view of the opposition.


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[solidassears]

I really don't know but it really seems to me that the left has a much bigger problem with this than conservatives do. I think I always try to understand where they're coming from, but when I try to ask questions or try to get into details they always turn to personal attacks rather than discuss the issue and explain their position.

I'll read the article later but I 100% agree with your post. One of the biggest issues I have with my liberal friends is their elitist attitude and refusal to try to at least understand the point of view of the opposition.


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[hoyle21]

I really don't know but it really seems to me that the left has a much bigger problem with this than conservatives do. I think I always try to understand where they're coming from, but when I try to ask questions or try to get into details they always turn to personal attacks rather than discuss the issue and explain their position.

Really, just the left calls names? You've never heard the phrase libtard?


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[charley]

Wonder why we are so divided? [so glad you asked]

 

[solidassears]

Did I say that? No, I didn't. Of course there are people like that on the right too. It's why I said "I really don't know, but" and it is true, my experience is that the left if far worse. But again, that is my experience.

If you pay attention, when was the last time there was a right wing protest and the right burning cars, blocking traffic and breaking windows? When was that anyway?

Really, just the left calls names? You've never heard the phrase libtard?


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[hoyle21]

I'm not going to defend people destroying property. That is a riot not a protest and I can only hope it's a minority.

Hell, I can't even defend the protests or riots over Milo speaking at UC Berkeley. If you don't like his message don't go. He still has a right to speak to his mind, even it is not what you want to hear




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[hoyle21]

Wonder why we are so divided? [so glad you asked]

But would the left still be acting this way if john kasich were president instead?


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[solidassears]

I think so; if Hillary lost their actions would be the same. The difference is that Kasich would not fight back.

But would the left still be acting this way if john kasich were president instead?


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[charley]

But would the left still be acting this way if john kasich were president instead?


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NO !!! i like Kasich...

 

[hoyle21]

NO !!! i like Kasich...

Me too, I disagree on policy with but he's not a fascist. Maybe that's the difference?


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[charley]

I think so; if Hillary lost their actions would be the same. The difference is that Kasich would not fight back.

,,, man !! you are one clueless dude... you do live in a bubble.. here's some more KoolAid for you to swill....

 

[charley]

Me too, I disagree on policy with but he's not a fascist. Maybe that's the difference?


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... he's a normal man, that you can talk to, I've been watching him for years... NO !! I don't agree with his agenda, but I find him likeable , & could trust him to do the right thing... TRUMP wants to be a tough guy & take us into war....a man that never served , dodged the draft with 5 school deferments .....is leading us ... God Help Us !!!

 

[solidassears]

Typical lefty reply; you can't defend your position so you resort to personal attacks and name calling. So typical do predictable.

,,, man !! you are one clueless dude... you do live in a bubble.. here's some more KoolAid for you to swill....

 

[charley]

Typical lefty reply; you can't defend your position so you resort to personal attacks and name calling. So typical do predictable.

,,, you whining again ???? you sure are..... did one of those big bad liberal lefties call you a clueless dude???? how cruel the left is...

,,, why not pull that tampon out of your ass & write something funny. All we ever hear out of you is crying....

 

[solidassears]

Too much fun predicting what you're going to do next. So predictable, so typical, so you.. It's all you know, you can't defend your positions so this is all you have. Keep trying..

,,, you whining again ???? you sure are..... did one of those big bad liberal lefties call you a clueless dude???? how cruel the left is...

,,, why not pull that tampon out of your ass & write something funny. All we ever hear out of you is crying....

 

[charley]

Too much fun predicting what you're going to do next. So predictable, so typical, so you.. It's all you know, you can't defend your positions so this is all you have. Keep trying..

"Typical lefty reply; you can't defend your position so you resort to personal attacks and name calling. So typical do predictable."...

,, we can see that great humor of yours on display... lol
,, your posts are all the same,,

.. plz stop crying....

 

[solidassears]

Your porn posts are great; the rest really boring and predictable. Maybe try reading something other than The Daily Kos; it's gonna stunt you even more.

,, we can see that great humor of yours on display... lol
,, your posts are all the same,,

.. plz stop crying....

 

[hoyle21]

Trump is such a small man, he must have the works smallest penis.

https://youtu.be/UlYO_zEB7qE


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[SheriV]

I saw that whole thing- at the national prayer even mentioning ratings of a TV show in humor.. Jesus Christ he has the most fragile ego in the world.

a "heated exchange" with the prime minister of Australia before hanging up on him- please tell me what Australia has done thats offensive to the US or in what way they're robbing the US of income or fobbing off in some way on the US.


Solid- I respect that you really don't resort to name calling but honestly even when someone lays out factual information you disregard it without looking at it.
I posted information from the US army corp of engineers and you accused me of putting out info from CNN. I'll admit to reading CNN once in a while and rolling my eyes..and the same with Fox- they both such instruments of the left and right they can't be taken seriously but since you like to keep score even one of Fox's anchors has been a regular critic of #45.

If the entire world thinks hes a bad choice, but one we're stuck with, its probably not because you're smarter than everyone else in the world.

and as far as crying goes? I've heard nothing but bleating sheep blaming every fucking thing in the Universe on Obama for at least the last three yrs.
Insurance premiums are sky high? obama's fault (not greedy corporate insurance companies who's stock soared) raining out when its supposed to be dry? Obama
wife has a dry vag? obviously Obama. No job skills and unemployed? Obama

well- this is the change we have. may god help us all.



oh and if one more moron doesn't understand that the word "Allah" literally translates as "god" I will fucking scream.

 

[hoyle21]

I saw that whole thing- at the national prayer even mentioning ratings of a TV show in humor.. Jesus Christ he has the most fragile ego in the world.

a "heated exchange" with the prime minister of Australia before hanging up on him- please tell me what Australia has done thats offensive to the US or in what way they're robbing the US of income or fobbing off in some way on the US.


Solid- I respect that you really don't resort to name calling but honestly even when someone lays out factual information you disregard it without looking at it.
I posted information from the US army corp of engineers and you accused me of putting out info from CNN. I'll admit to reading CNN once in a while and rolling my eyes..and the same with Fox- they both such instruments of the left and right they can't be taken seriously but since you like to keep score even one of Fox's anchors has been a regular critic of #45.

If the entire world thinks hes a bad choice, but one we're stuck with, its probably not because you're smarter than everyone else in the world.

and as far as crying goes? I've heard nothing but bleating sheep blaming every fucking thing in the Universe on Obama for at least the last three yrs.
Insurance premiums are sky high? obama's fault (not greedy corporate insurance companies who's stock soared) raining out when its supposed to be dry? Obama
wife has a dry vag? obviously Obama. No job skills and unemployed? Obama

well- this is the change we have. may god help us all.



oh and if one more moron doesn't understand that the word "Allah" literally translates as "god" I will fucking scream.

lol. Even the Christians in the Middle East call it Allah, because that's the fucking name in Arabic.


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[hoyle21]

Is Forbes right wing or left wing?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/berlin...s-rather-than-alternative-facts/#35adf18fe9b5


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[SheriV]

uhhh..its considered a right leaner


I'm laughing that fox didn't even get an honorable mention

but the times and post are fake news!!! and they're both going under because they're such bad papers!


I like the bbc because its generally ridiculously neutral

 

[SheriV]

lol. Even the Christians in the Middle East call it Allah, because that's the fucking name in Arabic.


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Thank you! you understand my frustration!!


I see more idiots making comments about those wackos praying to their god allah and I want to scream..their god allah is your god!! fml!!!

spend 10 minutes reading about theology!!
but I guess Im an elitist liberal because I took a western civ class.

 

[charley]

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Thank you! you understand my frustration!!


I see more idiots making comments about those wackos praying to their god allah and I want to scream..their god allah is your god!! fml!!!

spend 10 minutes reading about theology!!
but I guess Im an elitist liberal because I took a western civ class.

.... you know trump doesn't read, but he does TWEET !!!! even when trump spoke with the prime minister of Australia, he started bragging about how great was his victory ... what an asshole, he lost by 3million votes,,,

 

[charley]

Your porn posts are great; the rest really boring and predictable. Maybe try reading something other than The Daily Kos; it's gonna stunt you even more.

I've never read the Kos... but you and your quasi religious vision see's through all... lol

 

[solidassears]

<Solid- I respect that you really don't resort to name calling but honestly even when someone lays out factual information you disregard it without looking at it.
I posted information from the US army corp of engineers and you accused me of putting out info from CNN. I'll admit to reading CNN once in a while and rolling my eyes..and the same with Fox- they both such instruments of the left and right they can't be taken seriously but since you like to keep score even one of Fox's anchors has been a regular critic of #45.>

I don't pretend to know everything, but i know how my business has been effected from Obama's policies. He's a bald face liar and what bothers me is that he was given a pass on everything. Lying about his ACA, lying about Benghazi, lying about the unemployment situation etc. The list is endless of what he lied about and how he screwed the US or US. If the media had held him accountable for what he did, I wouldn't have much to say about how they treat Trump; but I hate a hypocrite about worse than anything and the media is nothing but.

As to what the world thinks; they will think what ever the lame stream media reports and fails to report. They don't have any more a clue than the media did about who was going to win the election.

As to the Army Corp and the DAPL if they were the ones making the decision, why are they looking at the application now?
If the entire world thinks hes a bad choice, but one we're stuck with, its probably not because you're smarter than everyone else in the world.

<and as far as crying goes? I've heard nothing but bleating sheep blaming every fucking thing in the Universe on Obama for at least the last three yrs.
Insurance premiums are sky high? obama's fault (not greedy corporate insurance companies who's stock soared) raining out when its supposed to be dry? Obama
wife has a dry vag? obviously Obama. No job skills and unemployed? Obama

well- this is the change we have. may god help us all.> Obama job skills, Community Organizer = Agitator, never had a real job in his life, never earned anything in his life, never made a payroll, never actually did anything constructive. Trump = Businessman and builder. Created thousands of job, makes payroll every week had done and built hundreds of projects, has failed and recovered. I'll take the businessman builder every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

 

[solidassears]

Well you should you have their talking points down pat. You could be a contributor or maybe even head of their editorial board! You're their kind of useful brainiac.

I've never read the Kos... but you and your quasi religious vision see's through all... lol

 

[SheriV]

He doesn't even pay his contractors! He routinely stiffs or sues blue collar guys!

 

[solidassears]

Citations please, I would like to see the proof of that one. Not saying it didn't happen; but I've seen this charge a number of times, but never any detail or citation as to who he didn't pay or why etc. There's usually more than one side to every story ya know.

And the government does that all the time; I know I have to collect from them; I'm a contractor and right now the State and Feds owe me a huge pile of money and it's late.

He doesn't even pay his contractors! He routinely stiffs or sues blue collar guys!