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Wonder why we are so divided?

Oh and I would love to see the tattoo..

Did you read the original article I posted on this thread?

to be honest I didn't. I jumped in because I saw hoyle and charley in here and it was getting derogatory

I happen to like hoyle from a ways back and have always had a crush on charley- because hes such a chill dude


and I have never sat back and waited on a politician of any flavor- thats dangerous because it always leads to things like...me shipping off to a sand box...or paying more taxes...or my insurance premiums tripling


Im a straight up cunt to my local politicians....I even amassed 400 people at a small town meeting (pop under 12k) for a throw down fight over a tiny little parcel of land (4 acres) I owned in the woods and suddenly the town wanted to close the road because a dude up there didnt like me buying it and interfering (he assumed) with his hunting
That was a democrat btw and I ruined his career- little ole me- with nothing but verifiable facts I listed in bullet points on flyer paper- did two/three small newspaper interviews and asked three people to hand out the flyers when everyone showed up


srs- I ruined the guys career

hed look at the ground and just mumble...miss V when he would see me on the street...tucked tail like a dog
 
the rioting is getting out of control, you would think if Obama or Clinton cared about this country they would step up and say something, but instead Obama says he is happy about the "protests", however they are not peaceful protests, have not been for months now.


... wow, I have a new idea , lets blame Clinton & Obama ..
 
oh..and a local representatives son cut me off in traffic once and at a light got nasty at me

while I was driving my husbands car...with his freemason compass on the back- he has a vanity plate with his last name (the reps son)

so I sent his dads office a pleasant little email describing the jeep and the vanity plate letting him know Ill be happy to talk to the freemasons and the veteran communtiy about his family's support for them

he brought his douchebag frat boy son to my house to appologize


small wins- but theyre mine
 
the rioting is getting out of control, you would think if Obama or Clinton cared about this country they would step up and say something, but instead Obama says he is happy about the "protests", however they are not peaceful protests, have not been for months now.


yawoooo


they were rough protests here...what with our attorney general and lt governor protesting along with them with the police escort

it got wild! they had hot cocoa!
 
I have an idea.. lets give cops carte blanche o shoot people in the back?

don't like that idea? then you should pay attention better- because there is a call to reduce the number of police brutality complaints because it hurts police/citizen interactions
 
I have an idea.. lets give cops carte blanche o shoot people in the back?


,,, a trumpian re-write ,,I have an idea.. lets give cops carte blanche to shoot people who are black? [now they're happy]
 
You really should read the article, it's very good and what I was posting about how people are so divided they refuse to even consider another point of view. I think you'll like it if you read it.

I respect you because you're usually very much a straight up woman and I was not trying to push your buttons. I do think people; the left and the media are way way out of line with Trump by refusing to let him try and to give him a chance. The Dems are doing nothing good and the media is blatantly lying most of the time and I hate all of it. I believe we need honest debate and consideration of each side, we are getting none of that; the Left is totally hard and fast that it's their way or no way and the right is getting there too. It worries me and I don't like it. Obama was the worst, his words, Elections matter, we won you lost, deal with it.... Now the shoe is on the other foot and the left doesn't want to deal with it. Harry Reid blew up the Senate rules, now guess what, the Democrats are going to pay dearly for what Harry did; payback is a bitch!

I really wish we could get back to a place where we could see each side and the valid points, then decide what to do. There is none of that nowadays.


to be honest I didn't. I jumped in because I saw hoyle and charley in here and it was getting derogatory

I happen to like hoyle from a ways back and have always had a crush on charley- because hes such a chill dude


and I have never sat back and waited on a politician of any flavor- thats dangerous because it always leads to things like...me shipping off to a sand box...or paying more taxes...or my insurance premiums tripling


Im a straight up cunt to my local politicians....I even amassed 400 people at a small town meeting (pop under 12k) for a throw down fight over a tiny little parcel of land (4 acres) I owned in the woods and suddenly the town wanted to close the road because a dude up there didnt like me buying it and interfering (he assumed) with his hunting
That was a democrat btw and I ruined his career- little ole me- with nothing but verifiable facts I listed in bullet points on flyer paper- did two/three small newspaper interviews and asked three people to hand out the flyers when everyone showed up


srs- I ruined the guys career

hed look at the ground and just mumble...miss V when he would see me on the street...tucked tail like a dog
 
it's an endless fucking list between the two of them.


words, words, words...with no fucking reality....

.. maybe this will make you trump thugs happy.... Lock her up,Lock her up,Lock her up,Lock her up,Lock her up,Lock her up..... happy now ???
 
Id actually like to see both the major parties work for the people instead of themselves



here is something to consider...and youre right- I havent personally lost anything yet. I can concede that my husbands 401k has grown in the last month because its still stock heavy. Our insurance rates went down for this year and we got much better policies. I also KNOW the insurance thing has really fucked people over and even slick willy was mic-ed saying the aca is a mess- and it is. ..
but the thing people should consider is this..and it wont resonate with a lot of you guys but

women can drive cars because of protest, they can vote because of protest, they earn 75% of what a man does and can own land because of protest..and hey- thats better than not being allowed to have ones own money or property I guess...

police brutality occurs predominately to blacks but it does happen to rural whites too....thats being paid better attention to..because of protest

The list of news sources and accuracy "just the facts" that hoyle had posted is a very good list...I disagree with a couple but for the most part- its pretty accurate.
dont come at me with breitbart and fox and I wont come at you with cnn ...or whatever other left craziness there is.


do I think jobs growth is manipulated? absofuckinlutely....but they all do it..even trump

he wants a win for carrier..but then blows up boeings stock. do you know how much of my states income is tied up in defense manufacture?
trump scares me because he isn't rational ..I think hes gonna get us into an unwinnable war.

it also pisses me off that the right doesn't give a flying fuck about women and never has

a man can get a script for viagra no sweat and his insurance covers it..hell trt and insurance will probably cover it if you can find the right dr to prescribe it

birth control? nope..they didnt used to and the shit can be a cpl hundred bucks a month now. pap smears? not so fast..fuck uterine cancer..you can have a hysterectomy if it goes too far...trisomy 13 baby? have it..no abortion..fuck whatever psychological trauma it might be for a woman to carry a mutant fetus with no possibility to live. it just goes on and on.
I dnt give a shit if a woman wants to be a duggar and pop out 19 kids..so Id really appreciate it if I can get equal access to healthcare
 
its been suggested he ran initially because of ratings and hes obsessed with ratings..idk
it would be a wild punking of the US..but then what?
 
I mean- check out the date on this
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/03/is-donald-trump-punking-the-press/73000/

Please, please, please: Don't fall for any of this.

The Donald, in case you've forgotten, has taken us all down this road before, when he spent months flirting with a third party bid for president in 2000. Just like now, he promised to tap his own vast fortune, attracted a torrent of publicity, and fared decently in polls -- around 15 percent in trial heats against Al Gore and George W. Bush. And just like now, he had something to promote: A new book (which came out in January 2000) and, well, the Trump brand. The only difference: Trump was pretending to run as independent, so instead of opposing abortion and giving aid and comfort to birthers, he claimed to be pro-choice and talked up universal healthcare and a massive income tax surcharge for the super-wealthy.

When that charade finally came to an end in February 2000, the national chairman of the Reform Party -- whose nomination Trump had claimed to be interested in -- branded the New York plutocrat a "hustler."

"Donald Trump came in, promoted his hotels, he promoted his book, he promoted himself at our expense, and I think he understands very fully that we've ended the possibilities for such abuse of our party," Pat Choate said.

He added: "All this was, was a serious hustle of the media, and I think the media should send him a massive bill on it."​
 
Trump is still the executive producer of Celebrity Apprentice, so is this just for ratings?


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..the trump ego , a bottomless pit, he knows no shame... a world war, with all those photo's of trump waving at the cameras, his dream...
 
Just a few things:

I have no problem with protests; I have a big problem with property destruction and violence pretending to be a protest. And these so called protester; when asked what are they protesting; they have no clue. These are not protests; these are riots orchestrated riots to stifle free speech and shut up anyone who speaks as a conservative. So lets talk truth OK, these are not protests.

You say the right doesn't care about women. I don't know what you mean, but I assume it is your way of saying that you believe abortion any time for any reason and if anyone disagrees they hate women. At least this is all I can see coming from the left. There's no room for discussion or room for an opposing opinion; to the left, abortion is a sacrament and litmus test. Personally, I think it's murder for convenience in 99% of the cases. The left throws out all these extremely rare cases and tries to pretend this is what abortion rights are about. It's total demagoguery. Even though I think abortion is murder for convenience, it is legal, so if you want an abortion you can have one and I'm not complaining; but don't ask me to pay for your abortion that's your choice and your responsibility. You have all the control of your body you choose if you get laid or not, you choose if you take the pill or not, it's your choice. And don't even go to the rape garbage, the number of abortion from an actual rape are very very small and they are legal and paid for. Screaming rape is total crap.

I don't like the government picking winners and losers either but where was the outrage when Obama took over the auto manufacturing; screwed the bond holders and gave their equity to the unions? Where was the outrage when Obama gave billions to his friends to pretend to make Solar PV? Why is Elon Musk the hero when all he is; is the most successful grant getter in history! None of his products are competitive in the real market and even with all the billions in subsidies, he is still losing money hand over fist; it is absurd to fund this loser with our tax dollars.

There are a lot of screwed up things here in the US; no one said a word about how Obama screwed the middle class and made tearing down long held icons of American culture, they let him screw us and divide us for 8 years, no riots, no protests. You won't even give Trump 4 years or even 4 days. Trump won, he is the President and he won because me and a whole lot of Americans are sick and tired of the leftists ruling against our will. As Obama said; elections have consequences, we won, you lost, get used to it. Now it's our turn to see what we can do, if we fail, kick him out in 4 years. Until then Trump is the President and the his agenda is going to get put into place; many thanks to Harry Reid.

I don't know about the Viagra v Pill business; I was under the impression the pill was very cheap and yeah, my doc gave me a script for Viagra so I could give it a try and no my insurance didn't pay for it, the damn shit was like $20.00 a pill so I decided I could live without it. I do get trt, but it still costs like $55.00 a month that insurance won't cover; oh any my insurance costs; $1600.00 a month for me and the wife. And that is with a $5000.00 deductible. I don't smoke or drink; my total cholesterol is 102 my blood pressure is normal I have no health issues other than the trt. The $1600.00 a month is absurd, but that's what Obama gave us. You want to blame the Insurance companies because they want to make a profit? Good grief, that is the only reason they are in business! Get the idiotic government out of the health care industry so there can be competition. Nothing works better than real competition to drive down costs and improve services and now we have no competition so we have shitty services and high costs.

Id actually like to see both the major parties work for the people instead of themselves



here is something to consider...and youre right- I havent personally lost anything yet. I can concede that my husbands 401k has grown in the last month because its still stock heavy. Our insurance rates went down for this year and we got much better policies. I also KNOW the insurance thing has really fucked people over and even slick willy was mic-ed saying the aca is a mess- and it is. ..
but the thing people should consider is this..and it wont resonate with a lot of you guys but

women can drive cars because of protest, they can vote because of protest, they earn 75% of what a man does and can own land because of protest..and hey- thats better than not being allowed to have ones own money or property I guess...

police brutality occurs predominately to blacks but it does happen to rural whites too....thats being paid better attention to..because of protest

The list of news sources and accuracy "just the facts" that hoyle had posted is a very good list...I disagree with a couple but for the most part- its pretty accurate.
dont come at me with breitbart and fox and I wont come at you with cnn ...or whatever other left craziness there is.


do I think jobs growth is manipulated? absofuckinlutely....but they all do it..even trump

he wants a win for carrier..but then blows up boeings stock. do you know how much of my states income is tied up in defense manufacture?
trump scares me because he isn't rational ..I think hes gonna get us into an unwinnable war.

it also pisses me off that the right doesn't give a flying fuck about women and never has

a man can get a script for viagra no sweat and his insurance covers it..hell trt and insurance will probably cover it if you can find the right dr to prescribe it

birth control? nope..they didnt used to and the shit can be a cpl hundred bucks a month now. pap smears? not so fast..fuck uterine cancer..you can have a hysterectomy if it goes too far...trisomy 13 baby? have it..no abortion..fuck whatever psychological trauma it might be for a woman to carry a mutant fetus with no possibility to live. it just goes on and on.
I dnt give a shit if a woman wants to be a duggar and pop out 19 kids..so Id really appreciate it if I can get equal access to healthcare
 
One of my daughters birth control script is 180 a month. The other is 135 without insurance through walgreens
One takes it for actual birth control..the other for pmdd and cystic acne as well as a requirement to be on Accutane.

Pap smears and child birth were not required coverage under health insurnace previously and women's insurance premiums were higher than men's and still didn't cover female fertility in any way.
As far as abortion gors...prior and current law prevents federal funding to pay for it..and has for a very long time now. Anything else you'd like to pretend to understand?

Mammograms still aren't covered under the age of 40
 
I don't believe federal money should be used for it either, but it should be legal. After our OB rotation we had some very religious students openly admit that no idea how the process actually worked and all changed their minds on believing life begins at conception.


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Very odd; Planned Parenthood says birth control is usually free, but can cost up to $50.00 a month. Maybe you should shop for a better price:

https://www.plannedparenthood.org/l...control-pill/how-do-i-get-birth-control-pills

Sounds to me like there are many ways you could get them for free; but maybe you want to pay a lot so you can blame men or trump?

One of my daughters birth control script is 180 a month. The other is 135 without insurance through walgreens
One takes it for actual birth control..the other for pmdd and cystic acne as well as a requirement to be on Accutane.

Pap smears and child birth were not required coverage under health insurnace previously and women's insurance premiums were higher than men's and still didn't cover female fertility in any way.
As far as abortion gors...prior and current law prevents federal funding to pay for it..and has for a very long time now. Anything else you'd like to pretend to understand?

Mammograms still aren't covered under the age of 40
 
maybe you haven't heard- there arent too many planned parenthoods around anymore- you know..because of federal funding cuts
 
and I have no problem with my over 18 daughters paying for their birth control- and they happen to both have insurance so they don't have to. Insurance that is now required to include birth control in its prescription lists. because of the ACA

when we had essentially no insurance I did however pay for it via our HSA and used it as a tax deduction

all of those things were made possible through the ACA



please tell me how much childbirth costs...because I may actually attempt to see if I still have the bill for my youngest daughter for what insurance didn't cover...does planned parenthood cover childbirth? or right. they dont. they primarily provide preventative care on a sliding scale for low income families


we aren't a low income family in case you're wondering
 
I didn't know there were any cuts yet, a lot of talk about it, but as far as I know, there are no cuts yet.. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, I don't pretend to know for sure, it's just my impression.

maybe you haven't heard- there arent too many planned parenthoods around anymore- you know..because of federal funding cuts
 
I have no idea what it costs these days; my youngest is 32 so it's been a long time since I paid for childbirth.

My oldest is 41 and when he was born he was in the in the NICU for 2 weeks almost bankrupt me.

and I have no problem with my over 18 daughters paying for their birth control- and they happen to both have insurance so they don't have to. Insurance that is now required to include birth control in its prescription lists. because of the ACA

when we had essentially no insurance I did however pay for it via our HSA and used it as a tax deduction

all of those things were made possible through the ACA



please tell me how much childbirth costs...because I may actually attempt to see if I still have the bill for my youngest daughter for what insurance didn't cover...does planned parenthood cover childbirth? or right. they dont. they primarily provide preventative care on a sliding scale for low income families


we aren't a low income family in case you're wondering
 
funding for planned parenthood has been progressively cut for the last ten years
federal funding for abortion hasn't been allowed for almost as long.

your federal tax dollars haven't been paying for anyone's abortions...someones birth control, paps or stds treatment maybe but not abortion
one of the provisions and the only way the ACA was able to move forward was to make sure abortion wasn't covered.

state is another matter and up to individual states.

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2015/09/18/what-is-left-of-planned-parenthood-in-texas
 
there are 2 planned parenthood clinics in alabama on opposite ends north and south of the state
 
I don't know, maybe I am old school but when my wife and I married 22 years ago we waited 5 years before having kids, We wanted to by a home and get our carreers in order before having the responsability of raising children. Once these were in place we had our first child and with our insurance we paid 20% of the fee. My thoughts are like this.. If you can't afford birt control then don't have sex cause you obviously can't afford to raise a kid. If you can't afford to raise a kid then stay on birth control and wait till you can afford the expense.. It really is simple.

As for why we are divided. We are to busy trying to change our constitution into something it wasn't meant to be. Follow it or leave and go somewhere else if you don't like it. My Irish and German imigrant ansestors came here and were damn happy to be here. Quit treading on other people. I like guns so fuck you if you don't. Quit trying to change the law of the land and take them away. If you don't like them then don't own one. I don't like fags but I don't care what you do in your own home.

THIS IS JUST MY 2 CENTS. WHO CARES ANYWAY. ITS ALL BULLSHIT. LATER!!!!!!
 
You ain't wrong brother; you and I and most of the American people think the same thing; we're sick and tired of leftists trying to turn the USA into another socialist Cuba. That's exactly why Trump was elected and why the Democrats are no longer a relevant party. They and the media don't know it yet and they keep rioting and pissing off the American people. 2018 is going to be hell for the Democrats.

I don't know, maybe I am old school but when my wife and I married 22 years ago we waited 5 years before having kids, We wanted to by a home and get our carreers in order before having the responsability of raising children. Once these were in place we had our first child and with our insurance we paid 20% of the fee. My thoughts are like this.. If you can't afford birt control then don't have sex cause you obviously can't afford to raise a kid. If you can't afford to raise a kid then stay on birth control and wait till you can afford the expense.. It really is simple.

As for why we are divided. We are to busy trying to change our constitution into something it wasn't meant to be. Follow it or leave and go somewhere else if you don't like it. My Irish and German imigrant ansestors came here and were damn happy to be here. Quit treading on other people. I like guns so fuck you if you don't. Quit trying to change the law of the land and take them away. If you don't like them then don't own one. I don't like fags but I don't care what you do in your own home.

THIS IS JUST MY 2 CENTS. WHO CARES ANYWAY. ITS ALL BULLSHIT. LATER!!!!!!
 
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