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Hypertrophy-Specific Training. Its a new program designed by Brain Haycock to develop pure mass.

Better? Based on what?

Mr. 'Pro, I'm not arguing your education or experience. That's not my goal. As for the above comments-- so what if momentum is used? The tension, and quite a bit of it, is till generated, is it not? It has to come from somewhere. In fact, you can easily create more tension than the load itself...

Neil-- why are you making the assumption that the sources I quote are stereotypical 130 lb science geeks in lab coats? Most strength researchers are avid lifters themselves, with many being quite accomplished. Exercise science is a different field, in that it tends to attract those that already...

:D Gopro-- So, now you're slipping into personal arguments again. I was just presenting an alternate viewpoint. But, if your experience conflicts with basic physiology, I apologize and will stop posting facts. Why don't you contribute your experience to the publishers of physiology texts so...

Originally posted by gopro Absolutely Neil...thats why I said EVENTUALLY. It will take at least 10 years to get to that point. However, I do think that trainees get too caught up in the numbers game. Physical loading (weight) is the basis of muscular growth. I'd say watching the numbers is a...

Build up to that, though. If you don't have a decent aerobic base, that's going to kill you. It does work wonders once you build up enough to be capable of doing it, however.

Gee, no telling *what* gave me the idea you said that.

Yah.

I might have to disagree just a bit here, Chigs-- while true you're adapting neurally, stress is still being applied to the muscle(s) involved--- this can spur gowth regardless. It may not be *optimal* growth, but its not like they'll be exactly stagnating. Its easier to guage progress by...

There aren't three areas of the pec major. The pec major has an upper and a lower head. Further, both heads are involved in every articulation the chest is responsible for. Even more, despite the possible compartmentalization feature of MU recruitment, the tension necessary for hypertrophy would...

If you don't want to contribute to the topic then don't post!!

Maybe you misunderstand me-- most of my info comes from strength coaches who's time in the trenches IS most of the current scientific literature. Their empirical experience in coaching many sports was also translated into research. Granted, my sources don't entirely disagree with you, and...

And if you make money in the process of enthralling everyone with your vast infallible wisdom, what the hell, huh?

Exactly, Maki. NO ONE is infallible, and NO ONE is exempt to having their theories questioned. Hell, I've been putting Mel through the wringer with questions lately, and I think we've both been learning in the process. I think Dr. Siff is a good bit more reputable than Poliquin, as well. But...

I believe his point is that time in the gym doesn't make someone an infallible expert on strength.

That's the whole point, Scotty. When he claims something like using various exercises to shape a muscle, its not law. However, I'm very willing to listen to anyone who can back up their ideas with proven science. Mr. 'Pro has chosen to disregard any scientifically-oriented argument for the "I...

I listen to guys who've been doing it a lot longer than you have, and they disagree with what you say. I can document the results of my sources in the records of Olympic sports, powerlifting competitions, and various similar events. You've got to give me something to work with if you expect to...

Once you have more than the anecdotal evidence of one person to back up your claims, you talk to us. :)

LOL In all honesty, Mr. 'Pro, I haven't seen anything to back your arguments BUT the whole "I've done this, seen this, and know this, so trust ME" line. Sorry, but that doesn't fly with me. That lends some credence to your arguments, but to an extent, and if you don't have any more than...