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911- that is exactly what I'm talking about. Some dudes web site is not substantial evidence that splenda is bad for us. You want to prove to the world that splenda is dangerous...then provide us with some actual studies published in peer reviewed journals that show that. A lot of people in...

Uggg, why are there so many people on bodybuilding boards who make claims without backing them up. When saying something is dangerous (like splenda) please have some evidence to back it up. And by evidence I don't mean a link to some homeopathic vodoo witch doctor's web page. Opinions and...

maybe, depends if you take in more calories that you burn in a day. its as simple as that...

My only real sources of complex carbs are oatmeal and fiber one. I also use all bran sometimes. I think they are perfectly fine sources of carbs when cutting and also have more fiber than oatmeal.

yeah, I'm curious as well. i hear this spoken quite often as if it were gospel, but I'm wondering if it is one of those things that isn't based on much fact, but just gets repeated so many times that it becomes dogma. I'm assuming there is some controlled study out there that it is based off...

i should have been more clear. Those aren't what I meant by articles. I meant peer-reviewed articles. Those are just something someone through on a website and the claim that artficial sweetners causes an insulin spike is not backed up by a controlled study in those. A lot of them made their...

I've never read a study that showed artificial sweetners cause an insulin spike. Can someone provide one.

I think they are actually both good in their own ways. When I want to wolf down a bunch of tasty pieces...NY. When I want a full meal out of a single slice...chi town all the way baby. Giordano's on the south side muh fuh!

its hard sometimes to convince yourself its just water retention...ya know?

we should hijack this thread and turn it into a Chicago style vs. New York style thread. Not California style though, lets face it, they don't stand a chance...:)

i love carb cycling. If you can't handle weight and some mild appearance fluctuations, it isn't the best diet though. You'll feel like crap sometimes and feel awsome on other days. I don't have a problem with no carb days because the high carb day ahead does a good job getting me through...

isn't glycogen stored in muscle though? where does the subcutaneous water retention come from? you know, the jiggly stomach.

I've been using TP's CC for a while now and I really enjoy it. In the future I would consider dong some type of refeed diet to switch it up however. So inbetween refeed days I would essentially do low carb days on my workouts and no carb days on my rest days and eventually refeed (3-4 days)...

Haha, I love that thread. I like to cut loose like that every now and then, but of course the bloat I get is not something I want to deal with all the time, so I try to keep those cheats to a minimum if I'm going to be without a shirt in the near future, haha:laugh:

As long as you don't do it regularly you will still loose weight. Bodybuilders worry too much. They think that if they eat so many calories over maintence in one day that the ruined their gains for the last year. You don't gain 10 pounds of fat in one day! If you can't handle the bloated...

As an endomorph would a good starting point be the Hi No Lo repeat cycle or should I maybe try Hi No Lo No repeat. I can always fit in a workout and meals with my job so I don't need to plan my cycle around the work week..its not an issue.

Hi all, I've been more or less using TP's carb cycling method for about 5 months and for the most part I've been maintaining due to periods of being strict and then days I'm not. I've really found this site very helpful since there are so many journals of individuals who have gone on CC...

I know about the sarcastic comments bro. My dad would give me crap for how much money I spent on food. Maybe they'll start to get used to it. You gotta explain to them how that crap annoys you. The "enjoy life" comment can really dig into one's patience. Explain how annoying it is and how...

huh, I always thought that quick and instant where the same thing. Also, I would think eating the oatmeal instead of mixing with a shake would be fine as well.

if you are worried about muscle loss, then yes you probably should eat, but try to eat healthy. If you don't care, keep in mind that as long as the liquor fits into you caloric needs you won't gain fat. You will loose muscle, yes. Correct me if I'm wrong anyone.