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On a website dedicated to bodybuilding, physical conditioning, nutrition and overall health someone recommends chewing tobacco? Am I the only one that finds this advice a little odd here? Seriously?:wtf:

this is something I found with Fitday and feel free to correct me if I fucked up, but the egg whites I use are more calories than what is listed for yours. My egg whites at home are 30 cals a piece and 6 grams of protein thus making your number of 12 egg whites worth 360 calories. Seems...

I would think so, but check with Prince:thumb:

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Actually drinking before a meal, I just read recently, is good for digestion and drinking during isn't the best. Something about the fluid getting in the way of your body's natural acids, etc. doing their job of breaking down the food. But I still sip while I eat!;)

Cool...thanks again for all your input everyone.

I will look into that, and in the meantime I will try what I listed above, but really focus on the basic, compound stuff as p-funk suggested and only pick 3 exercises for each day I lift.

P-Funk....if settling on 3 exercises, would I still keep it at 3 sets per exercise at that point?

Okay, let me see if I got this right. Juggernaut, if I take the cutting routine from above, which was a full body workout 2x a week, and stretch it over let's say, Mon-Wed-Fri, then I would be doing one half of the above workout on Mon, the remainder on Wed and then the entire thing on Friday...

Thanks alot for this...This is actually similar to what I was envisioning, only breaking it in half so I am doing this amount of work, but over 4 trips to the gym instead of 2. I know it sounds backwards, but going to the gym 4 times will help me out, as long as I stick to the above workload...

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Will do....and thanks again for the input. I will post some pics 4-6 weeks and let you know how everything goes. I am glad I started this thread, while I flip-flopped, it really helped shape my decision, and me being someone who can't make a decision about what DVD to watch sometimes, that is...

Thanks Danzik...Any problems with hitting the muscles 2x per 7 days as long as the volume per day is pretty low? When I used IF before I was on a Mon/Wed/Fri split, hitting each muscle group essentially once per 7 days. I tried Lyle's generic bulk routine this week...which I like alot, but it...

Also...Juggernaut, I was going to use Lyle's generic bulk routine, but if cutting how should I train? I know I should keep the weights high, but what about knocking a set off most of the exercises in that routine? I like the 4 day split, now that I started it this week. UD2.0 is not an option...

Thanks for all of the input. I have decided to cut for awhile. From what you just said and my own personal experience 2 years ago of being very lean and then adding weight, it was a much different experience...almost more fun lifting that way if that makes sense...and the kicker? I talked to...

What is the benefit to cutting now, then bulking as opposed to bulking now, getting bigger and then cutting? I know I would have more fat on me, but also more muscle. Seems like 6 of one and half dozen of another to me...

Well, thanks. I don't consider myself overweight, but I guess for around here I am. I am choosing to bulk because I want more muscle and strength. I hate lifting and losing fat/strength, as I do when cutting. Nothing deflates me more than watching the poundage drop off my lifts so here I am...

I have trained with weights for about 4 years with a break in the middle. 6' tall. 212 pounds. I eat between 3500-3800 calories a day, depending on whether it's a training day. I eat at least 230g of protein every day. 150g of fat a day...and to be honest, i stopped counting carbs as much...

I follow your logic, but I do feel at this time that I am experienced enough to try out the 1-Andro. I am trying to switch up routines and such to avoid hitting a wall and so far I am really digging it...if anything, trying new routines every 6-7 weeks has kept me focused and driven more than...

Sorry...work is a bummer sometimes.