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loooooooooooool this is some funny thread i think juggernaughts got some serious roid rage :D and tbh i did listen to a lot of your advice get rid of isos chnage my program round take a day off train 4 times a week iv taken alot of your points and matched it with mine if you dnt like training...

okay fair enough, i must say your rite probaly is the best forum around at least one of them, good answers and quick response jus people get so angry lol

okay fine just delete me i insist, so moderator do your job...

okay fine then cancel my forum membership... so be it

and yh changed it now monday shoulders ( 10 sets) tris (6 sets) tuesday legs (12 sets) wednesday (rest) thursday chest (12 sets) friday back (12 sets) deads (5 sets) bis (5 sets) there we go and comon guys i know i have been difficult but iv completely changed the routine that i originaly...

jeeeez people r so sarcastic on here :D

well i have already started my routine now so cnt change now so what muscle groups on what days wud u had suggested nick

i wanted to do shrugs on the monday cuz with all my ovther exerises i would not have time to do it on a back and bi and deadlift day and i know its weird i can train bis with back but just cnt train tris with shoulders or chest my form realy suffers especially when i try to overload my tris...

thanks, just needed a second opinion to be sure, now thinking about it it seems logical change it

well yes i wud like some advice lol, i mean thinking about it i wud think it wud be better to swap the chest and shoulder day with the back as i get 2 days recoupartaion for both legs and tris

basicly i forgot 2 ask u guys somin this is my routine monday: triceps and traps (do tris cuz i cnt perfrom form properly on shoulders and chest days) tuesday: legs wednesday: (rest) thursday (back deads and bis) friday( chest and shoulders) okay so wud it be better to swap my back day and...

good to know bout the rep ranges, erm you say that you shudnt go to failure all the time, i have always done this and everyone else that i know haas done this and have grown and got big so it can be done but what u mean is that if you didnt train to failure all the time u wud probaly see better...

I wish i could do that with my tris MDR would make things alot simpler its just my form is so poor after all the heavy pressing movements form benching etc because my tris feel fatigued, i just cnt put in the right effort and from so my tris suffer thats why i have to feel its essential for me...

sory lam im not good with knowlege with different muscle fibers altough i understand what they are i dnt nessarily know what the end result would mean? how would converting it into the different type of muscle fiber help acheive mass? sory for asking so many questions it just interestes me and...

no the bench press sets do not include warm ups and all the sets on my bench i was looking to go near to failure at least, i was looking to go to absolute failure on the last to reps of 6 so then just 6 sets for triceps? i see and have reserached that a lot of pople will nomrally do 5 or 6...

basicly i hate training triceps after a chest or shoulder day simply because my form really suffers, i can perfrom bicep on a back day fine but not triceps after a chest or shoulder day, lots of people prefer to train triceps with back etc phineas_ i always do compound exersises before...

okay the only muscle group where i can see it might be overtained is the triceps, however i do not want to train them on either a chest day or shoulder day i will get rid of the overhead extensions, but i do want to keep the reverse grip beacuse it will aloow me to self spot and push through a...

final routine _ (all other exercises with no listed reps will be between 12 and 10) monday: tris + traps 7 sets of narrow grip BB (starting off at 12, 12,10,10, 10,8,6,) 2 sets of seated overhead extensions 3 sets of one arm reverse grip pushdowns 5 shrugs tuesday: legs 8 sets of...

okay guys okay, i have been thinking about it and your convincing me your makeing me think, you my very well have to be working hard on me but your convincing me, how about on a chest day i perform the same chest routine, however i also will train my shoulders, 4 sets of shoulder presses 2 sets...

oh because deadlifts train hams directly dnt they, isnt it one of the main uscle gruops that get hit by them, can i ask something else then if i still wanted to train tris heavy by themsevles on a friday can i train that chest routine on a monday morning and then the shoulder routine in the...