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Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
Avant are pretty much out of the PS/PH market ever since the FDA issue.
There's a possibilty of an oral PH, but that's beyond the horizon right now. Until then, i'd say almost any company but Avant are leading the "PH pack".
Originally posted by Molehonea
I can still get avant labs trandermerals. Do you stillbelive I can get better results with something else.
Originally posted by gopro
Let me repeat myself...
1-VPX orals are just as effective as Avant transdermals are, if not more so...
2-Orals are easier to use than transdermals...
3-VPX orals are the best on the market...
My suggestion...do 4 weeks on both, with a 4 week break in-between, then compare and decide what works better for you.
Originally posted by dg806
GP, Can you get some client results from VPX orals so we can compare??
Originally posted by Twin Peak
Cough....cough....achem, bias.
Originally posted by gopro
I'll give you 3 "case studies" that I did on my own with clients of mine...
user #1: 6 week cycle of Syngex I...lean mass gain of 11 lbs...bench press from 315 x 1 to 345 x 1
user # 2: 4 week cycle of Test Prop/2 weeks 6-OXO/4 weeks Test Prop...lean mass gain of 14 lbs over the entire 10 weeks...deadlift from 365 x 4 to 415 x 4
user # 3: 6 week cycle of Test Prop/EQ...lean mass gain of 9 lbs...seated dumbell press from 85s x 6 to 105s x 6
I have had some clients get either better results or not quite as good, but this is around average. Feedback from people that I have gotten through IM, MM, AF and VPX are all similar.
Originally posted by Twin Peak
Impressive.
Originally posted by Molehonea
Didi the first user only use Syngex1? Also, I might do this with VPX but the price is so, High. Is there mfg with better prices and similar qty.
Originally posted by bigswole30
GOPRO, in your case studies you posted what is test prop? Do you mean 1-test prop by VPX or test prop the AAS? Ant the same for EQ? Boldenone or 1,4ad?
Originally posted by Nate
I just got my shipment of 1-AD.
it's my first time ever trying anything of the sort. i'm gonna see how it works on it's own before i go stacking it with anything else.
i can't wait to try it, although i'm a little nervous.
Originally posted by gopro
BS...I was speaking specifically of 1-Test Prop and Lipo EQ by VPX...NOT THE ANABOLIC STEROIDS!
Originally posted by gopro
Did you get the Ergopharm brand? Anyway, you should get nice results as a first time user of 1-AD, as long as your diet and training are on point. As for being nervous...don't be.
Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
Eric, give us summaries of each of your cycles.
And don't try and tell me you didn't record anything, cause i know your compulsive/obessive disorder for training.
Originally posted by Twin Peak
Does it matter? Its either BY ergo, or licensed from ergo, isn't it?
Originally posted by Twin Peak
Wow, weird how that can be so confusing. The names I mean.
Originally posted by gopro
Honestly, I wasn't 100% sure if all 1-AD came from the same source. All of the feedback I have gotten on 1-AD has been from the Egropharm brand.
Originally posted by gopro
Have you ever considered standup comedy?