10 things I hate

[Goodfella9783]

I can arrange that.

Armbar time...

I'll KO you from guard with a left palm.

 

[Goodfella9783]

I think it is interesting that people will say "get educated" about race when arguing against racism, yet when you post the cold hard facts it is often the last thing they want to hear.

The truth of the matter is that there are race disparities in the US, and the majority would prefer to ignore it. I don't think it is right to stereotype every single person of a certain race, but I also don't think its right to label people as racists because they don't ignore reality.

You can argue that black people are disproportionately inclined to be criminals because of societal influences, oppression...etc. etc. That is a valid argument. What isn't valid is to argue that black people aren't disproportionately inclined to be criminals, or to say that someone can't talk about it, or to label anyone who brings it up as a racist or ignorant.

Well race should play no role in anything, but that's just the way it is. We are all humans and what is the point of addressing racial groups. All it is is skin tone. It's ridiculous when you think about it. It's actually pretty damn ignorant. But it will never change.

 

[DOMS]

I don't cry and I'm not crying right now...That's why I said "I" would rather. I was just giving my opinion. And racial profiling isn't only for blacks. The same shit happens in Detroit, where there are more black cops than whites. Who wouldn't be pissed off driving to work and being pulled over by a black cop and you know it's because your white and you can't do shit about it? And he thinks before he even approaches you that you are a criminal because you happen to be in a mainly black area. Then goes on to throw the book at you however he/she can.

"Cried out" isn't the same as crying (weeping). To "cry out", generally, means to yell, usually with emotion.

Are the police in Detroit truly using racial profiling, or are they just being prejudiced? One is a based off of facts and the other is based off of opinion.

But to answer you, yeah I'd be fuckin pissed having to spend more than chicks on insurance cause I've never crashed or gotten a ticket. That's bullshit. Nothin I can do though.

Yes, it sucks, but if insurance companies didn't take this into account they would go out of business. Or at least suffer a lower income. Ignoring reality just because you don't like it doesn't make sense.

 

[Goodfella9783]

"Cried out" isn't the same as crying (weeping). To "cry out", generally, means to yell, usually with emotion.

I know you didn't mean literally to cry, man. LoL. I'm just saying...no emotion, no yelling, no rage...Just saying what I believe.

 

[DOMS]

I know you didn't mean literally to cry, man. LoL. I'm just saying...no emotion, no yelling, no rage...Just saying what I believe.

Sorry about that.

 

[Trouble]

Any streetwise cop working inner city beats, they know what bad news looks like. White, black, latino, asian..bad news wears a multiple colors in the Big City ghetto.

Detroit, Miami, LA, Houston, Cinnci, St Louie...Newark, Atlanta.... Hell, the cops here are streetwise, in my small town, 'cause its a drug distribution hub, where ethnicity takes a back seat to location and time of day, when you're needin' to know when to watch your ass extra careful-like.

 

[Bakerboy]

I grew up poor. I mean really poor. I spent many a night on the street. So, did I stand around bitching about how the "system" is keeping me down? No, I worked my ass off and now I'm an IT consultant who lives firmly in the middle class. I have aspirations, and plans, to keep moving up. That's not living a life of "negative reaction."

Being poor sucks; It does't matter what color you are. It is good that you were able to rise above your poverty but by asiring and "moving up" to the middle class and above is neither here nor there when it comes to all the people that are still poor and uneducated in this country. I mean we live in a first world country that is highly illiterate; why is that? I think America has a lot of good things going for it; the number one thing being people who are not afraid to look past their own self interests (personal goals, standard of living) and see that we have huge problems that are not going away (child poverty, a week healthcare system, homelessness, a disfunctional poorly funded school system etc. etc.). The fucked up thing is that the only way America works is if you believe in a class system, if you aspire like Oprah to top top of the food chain. The point that I was making is that 98% of the American citizins work for 2% of the people who have the real power.

We don't live in a utopia, that's true, but our standard of living here in the US beats all but the smallest first-world countries.

"To hate another person isn't going to solve anything."

So, I'm just as safe to walk down a poor white neighborhood than a black white neighborhood? Hell no. I've been to both and they are not the same. Hating a group of people may not be the most productive pastime, but ignoring reality is so much worse.

Safety is an illusion. Chances are the less you have the safer you are. The more a person has the more threatened they are that someone else will take what they have. So you buy a big house and put a gate around it, put an alarm system in; what are you really protecting?

But this is not a black or white issue this has more to do with economics. It's the cruel thing about capitalism. It pits people against each other. Success is always based on the amount you have sitting in your bank account. The laws, justice in America work a lot better if you have a fat wallet.

The neiborhoods you are afraid to walk down exists, partly, because the great divide between the rich and the poor.

 

[Bakerboy]

Who broke their backs for our freedom??? The poor immigrants and slaves.
This country was stolen. Land of the free my ass!

 

[DOMS]

Safety is an illusion. Chances are the less you have the safer you are. The more a person has the more threatened they are that someone else will take what they have. So you buy a big house and put a gate around it, put an alarm system in; what are you really protecting?

But this is not a black or white issue this has more to do with economics. It's the cruel thing about capitalism. It pits people against each other. Success is always based on the amount you have sitting in your bank account. The laws, justice in America work a lot better if you have a fat wallet.

The neiborhoods you are afraid to walk down exists, partly, because the great divide between the rich and the poor.

"Safety is an illusion." This is metaphysical nonsense. No one is talking about absolute safety, merely degrees. Otherwise, why don't I just pretend some locks on my doors?

Of all the fiscal/social systems out there, capitalism is the one that best fits human nature. That's to say, survival of the fittest. If you took all the nations wealth and divided it up evenly among the people, the money would (for the most part) simply gravitate back where it came from. Those that were rich would be rich again, and those that were poor would be poor again. You can't force people to be productive.

As for being more at risk by having more items: wrong again. I had way more violent encounters and theft when I was poor than now (as middle class).

 

[Goodfella9783]

As for being more at risk by having more items: wrong again. I had way more violent encounters and theft when I was poor than now (as middle class).

I think he meant that you feel more threatened the more you have. Because you work hard to get nice things and you think some criminal out there has it lined up to steal. And the less you have the less you have to lose, so you are not as fearful of being robbed. But as we all know, people are just as easily at risk of being murdered for $1.00 than they are for something more substantial.

 

[Bakerboy]

I think he meant that you feel more threatened the more you have. Because you work hard to get nice things and you think some criminal out there has it lined up to steal. And the less you have the less you have to lose, so you are not as fearful of being robbed. But as we all know, people are just as easily at risk of being murdered for $1.00 than they are for something more substantial.

 

[DOMS]

I think he meant that you feel more threatened the more you have. Because you work hard to get nice things and you think some criminal out there has it lined up to steal. And the less you have the less you have to lose, so you are not as fearful of being robbed. But as we all know, people are just as easily at risk of being murdered for $1.00 than they are for something more substantial.

I hope so.

 

[Goodfella9783]

Who cares anyway though. Why bitch about different races if you dislike them or certain groups of them? What's the use? There is nothing good that can come out of being racist. And that's looking at the whole. If you are racist and avoid other races out of fear, that's some fuckin sissy shit if you ask me. If you are trying look at other races and take part in some sort action that will address the situation for you as an individual or as a community to better it than that's cool.

It's all economics. What are we gonna do boot black people out of the country? If every person in this nation was white (same demographics, whites inhabited the ghetto, same everything), who would we blame? Because the same shit would happen in the lower class areas, we just wouldn't have people of a darker pigmentation to pinpoint. But that's what we do now, because to most people it seems reasonable to just attack skin color as the problem

I'm just sayin that in general...not in response to anyone in particular.

 

[Bakerboy]

"Prejudices are what fools use for reason." Voltaire

"Racism is a learned affliction and anything learned can be unlearned."
Jane Elliot

If you don't put good things inside you, nothing good can come out of you.

If you are in the mood for a good read that is both smart and funny then I suggest the author Walter Mosley. He books address racism in America in a clever way; his stories revolve around the complexities of being black in America.

http://www.twbookmark.com/features/waltermosley
Click on bookshelf
You get get his books at most any library or bookstore. He may just blow your mind.

My two favorite books of his are: Cinnamon Kiss and Walk'n the Dog.
I have not read his most recent one as I am waiting for it to come to my library.

 

[BigDyl]

I'll KO you from guard with a left palm.

I'll sub you like minotauro did Cro Cop.

 

[Steele20]

Steele20. So you are saying that if you are Black you are a criminal and are predisposed to violence ? Give me a break!

Blacks are a minority compared to spanish and white people here in America, yet make up the Majority of the prison population. Nuff said.

 

[Goodfella9783]

Blacks are a minority compared to spanish and white people here in America, yet make up the Majority of the prison population. Nuff said.

What's your point?

 

[DOMS]

He's talking about a disproportionate amount of crime.

 

[CowPimp]

So am I hearing suggestions that beacuse of statistics it is okay for a police officer to violate a black person's rights? That doesn't make sense to me. The constitution does make mention of this little premise called equal treatment under the law, which is being pissed on with the usage of racial profiling.

I live in a seriously overpoliced county: Montgomery county. It is one of the richest counties in the entire country. The level of racial profiling here is completely ridiculous. If I were to compile a list of the race of all the people pulled over on Georgia Avenue, then it would be approximately 95% black people, and I'm not exaggerating in the least bit. It is ludicrous. Trust me, there are PLENTY of white people breaking the law on this road perpetually, so it's not a lack of "fair game," so to speak.

The only white person I ever see pulled over on this road is myself. Most of the time I'm not breaking any laws either, as evidenced by the fact that I have been pulled approximately a dozen times on this very road without ever receiving a ticket, and receiving a warning only once (Because I didn't have a license plate on the front of my car). Why me? My car has an aftermarket exhaust system and rims, and I have long hair. That's all I can attribute it to. I drive very concious of the law on this particular road. That pisses me off a lot, and I somehow doubt this is the result of profiling as opposed to prejudice.

 

[Dale Mabry]

10)Driving-too many retards are allowed to do it.
9)Old people-I can think of no reason to have them around.
8)AIDS-I hate wearing condoms.
7)Cancer-Just because I can.
6)Marriage-I have nothing right now, and no prospects. The second I make a dime some chick will smell it, marry me, divorce me, and take half, regardless of any prenup. And if I make sick money and have a kid, she can petition the court to get $20k a month for day care. Name me one daycare that costs that much?
5)People who base their opinions off of others'.
4)Having to hold up 95% of a conversation-This typically happens with attractive women, I just walk away once I notice it now, but I have wasted too much time talking to some vapid retarded chick.
3)Censorship.
2)The lack of accountability most people have.
1)This society in general.

For the most part, I just hate what we have become, but don't care much since we have endless amounts of porn and beer. I am certainly immature, ironic that I don't hate that.

 

[DOMS]

So am I hearing suggestions that beacuse of statistics it is okay for a police officer to violate a black person's rights? That doesn't make sense to me. The constitution does make mention of this little premise called equal treatment under the law, which is being pissed on with the usage of racial profiling.

I live in a seriously overpoliced county: Montgomery county. It is one of the richest counties in the entire country. The level of racial profiling here is completely ridiculous. If I were to compile a list of the race of all the people pulled over on Georgia Avenue, then it would be approximately 95% black people, and I'm not exaggerating in the least bit. It is ludicrous. Trust me, there are PLENTY of white people breaking the law on this road perpetually, so it's not a lack of "fair game," so to speak.

The only white person I ever see pulled over on this road is myself. Most of the time I'm not breaking any laws either, as evidenced by the fact that I have been pulled approximately a dozen times on this very road without ever receiving a ticket, and receiving a warning only once (Because I didn't have a license plate on the front of my car). Why me? My car has an aftermarket exhaust system and rims, and I have long hair. That's all I can attribute it to. I drive very concious of the law on this particular road. That pisses me off a lot, and I somehow doubt this is the result of profiling as opposed to prejudice.

It must be where you live. I drive a low rider (with after marker exhaust and rims) and have yet to be pulled over. Even when I've just zipped past a parked cop doing 85 in a 65. Or maybe I've just been lucky so far. It's probably the long hair though. Cops seem to hate that.

 

[Dale Mabry]

Why me? My car has an aftermarket exhaust system and rims, and I have long hair. That's all I can attribute it to.

They probably thought you were some pot smoking hippie.

 

[Goodfella9783]

He's talking about a disproportionate amount of crime.

You HAVE to take into account socio-economic factors though. The higher percentage of blacks being arrested compared to whites, police mainly using urban (where most blacks are) areas as means of crime fighting/drug enforcement, blacks inability to get equal representation in court compared to whites.

If there were no blacks, hispanics, ect., these same things would come into play because of economics/social factors. Would you hate your own race? Who would you blame then????

Seems like most racist people just look at the obvious facts and refuse to dig deeper into why these facts are occurring or giving it at least a little thought.

 

[Dale Mabry]

You HAVE to take into account socio-economic factors though. The higher percentage of blacks being arrested compared to whites, police mainly using urban (where most blacks are) areas as means of crime fighting/drug enforcement, blacks inability to get equal representation in court compared to whites.

If there were no blacks, hispanics, ect., these same things would come into play because of economics/social factors. Would you hate your own race? Who would you blame then????

Seems like most racist people just look at the obvious facts and refuse to dig deeper into why these facts are occurring or giving it at least a little thought.

There is probably a happy middle ground between both of your opinions and it is probably the most correct. I prefer to give people the benefit of teh doubt, but don't always do that, so I am a hypocrite.

 

[Bakerboy]

Blacks are a minority compared to spanish and white people here in America, yet make up the Majority of the prison population. Nuff said.

And why do you think that is?
http://www.zmag.org/zmag/articles/dec95sklar.htm

 

[DOMS]

You HAVE to take into account socio-economic factors though. The higher percentage of blacks being arrested compared to whites, police mainly using urban (where most blacks are) areas as means of crime fighting/drug enforcement, blacks inability to get equal representation in court compared to whites.

Yes, you do need to take certain, extraneous, factors into account, but I believe the biggest problem is the black culture. Violence, sexism, and glorification of crime permeate it to a much greater degree than most other cultures (with the notable exception of machismo).

Whats even more interesting is when you compare blacks living the in US to blacks living Africa. There are a lot of similarities. As strange as it sounds, this holds true for every race living in the US. There's a study just waiting to happen.

 

[Goodfella9783]

Yes, you do need to take certain, extraneous, factors into account, but I believe the biggest problem is the black culture. Violence, sexism, and glorification of crime permeate it to a much greater degree than most other cultures (with the notable exception of machismo).

Yeah, but why do you think that is? Hip-Hop evolved after the urbanization of America when many blacks were entering U.S. cities...and all the sex, violence & drugs as a result of the poor living conditions for them was the motivation of the music for many...This is what they knew, so they made music about it. That's why you don't hear white country artists singing about dope slangin, hookers & bustin caps...And you won't hear black rappers rappin about campfires & ridin horses. The cities is where crime is, also where most blacks are and that's where you get your combo, sadly as it can be.

 

[DOMS]

Yeah, but why do you think that is? Hip-Hop evolved after the urbanization of America when many blacks were entering U.S. cities...and all the sex, violence & drugs as a result of the poor living conditions for them was the motivation of the music for many...This is what they knew, so they made music about it. That's why you don't hear white country artists singing about dope slangin, hookers & bustin caps...And you won't hear black rappers rappin about campfires & ridin horses. The cities is where crime is, also where most blacks are and that's where you get your combo, sadly as it can be.

Having grown up poor, I've never accepted being poor as an excuse for anything. You either take responsibility for yourself, or you don't.

You make a good point with blacks being city dwellers and crime rates being higher in cities. The problem is the very disproportionate level of crime, even given this condition. Plus, murder is a type of crime that can, and does, happen everywhere. The number of murders should be closer to percentage of that races population, but it's not. Also, consider Los Angeles (a predominately white and Latino city) verses Atlanta (a predominately black city). Violent crime (and burglaries) are twice common (per capita) than LA.


"And you won't hear black rappers rappin about campfires & ridin horses."

One of my favorite movies:

 

[Steele20]

You HAVE to take into account socio-economic factors though. The higher percentage of blacks being arrested compared to whites, police mainly using urban (where most blacks are) areas as means of crime fighting/drug enforcement, blacks inability to get equal representation in court compared to whites.

If there were no blacks, hispanics, ect., these same things would come into play because of economics/social factors. Would you hate your own race? Who would you blame then????

Seems like most racist people just look at the obvious facts and refuse to dig deeper into why these facts are occurring or giving it at least a little thought.

The police aren't out to get blacks. They don't wake up saying "I'm going to arrest me a black dude today". Black people just cause more crimes. And the only people that have an inability to get equal representation are the ones to dumb to do so.

Also you can not say "If there were no blacks, hispanics, etc" because there are, and always will be. So it's stupid to bring up the impossible.

Also, I have looked deeper into the situations around here. Three black people driving a Black Suv (how much do thoose cost these days? $30+k??) broke into apartments around here. Here's what I concluded. They are lazy and like to cause trouble.

 

[Goodfella9783]

The police aren't out to get blacks. They don't wake up saying "I'm going to arrest me a black dude today". Black people just cause more crimes. And the only people that have an inability to get equal representation are the ones to dumb to do so.

Also you can not say "If there were no blacks, hispanics, etc" because there are, and always will be. So it's stupid to bring up the impossible.

Also, I have looked deeper into the situations around here. Three black people driving a Black Suv (how much do thoose cost these days? $30+k??) broke into apartments around here. Here's what I concluded. They are lazy and like to cause trouble.

Ever heard of racial profiling? I had a Police, community & society teacher this semester who also happened to be an ex-NYPD cop. He admitted to racial profiling all the time along with many officers in his department...

I know white people who cannot get good lawyers because they cannot afford them. Doesn't make them dumb...WTF

And I know there will always be other races. My point was to say that attacking the race is not the proper method. It's clearly economics, so if it was an all white country, we'd have the same damn problems, just no race involved, proving that racism is not politically correct.